GAA moneybags and Sean Cavanagh

Started by seafoid, May 13, 2024, 10:12:13 PM

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Wildweasel74

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There should be a option with buying tickets on the day for games which are not sell outs. GAA doing the banks job for them, trying to have a moneyless society [Unless u go to the chinese).Had got a few tickets for people who now can't go. In old times it would been pay at the gate and not lose money on tickets which can't be refunded.

Truthsayer

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Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously

I don't believe there is a significant cohort who as you say:

1) Are elderly
2) Gave their life to the GAA
3) Are too sick to go to games
4) Cannot afford to go to a game
5) Family cannot afford to buy them a ticket
6) Family will not take them to the pub to see it.

This is the sentimental nonsense Jarlath Burns was talking about.
There you go... I'm alrite fuc u Jack... as for Jarlath Burns he's part of that corporate mindset likes to make grand speeches in the Hogan Stand and tell us what a great club man he is, but dismisses the disenfranchised grassroots when he's challenged.. 

John Martin

Has anyone a link to this Hogan stand speech because it sounds amazing

RedHand88

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 11:08:52 PM
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Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously

I don't believe there is a significant cohort who as you say:

1) Are elderly
2) Gave their life to the GAA
3) Are too sick to go to games
4) Cannot afford to go to a game
5) Family cannot afford to buy them a ticket
6) Family will not take them to the pub to see it.

This is the sentimental nonsense Jarlath Burns was talking about.
There you go... I'm alrite fuc u Jack... as for Jarlath Burns he's part of that corporate mindset likes to make grand speeches in the Hogan Stand and tell us what a great club man he is, but dismisses the disenfranchised grassroots when he's challenged.. 

But the grassroots have never had it better! Every hole in the hedge has a state of the art hub now or is building one.
How do you expect the GAA to continue to fund these? Magic money tree?

I also think you are in the minority on this.

Truthsayer

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Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously

I don't believe there is a significant cohort who as you say:

1) Are elderly
2) Gave their life to the GAA
3) Are too sick to go to games
4) Cannot afford to go to a game
5) Family cannot afford to buy them a ticket
6) Family will not take them to the pub to see it.

This is the sentimental nonsense Jarlath Burns was talking about.
There you go... I'm alrite fuc u Jack... as for Jarlath Burns he's part of that corporate mindset likes to make grand speeches in the Hogan Stand and tell us what a great club man he is, but dismisses the disenfranchised grassroots when he's challenged.. 

But the grassroots have never had it better! Every hole in the hedge has a state of the art hub now or is building one.
How do you expect the GAA to continue to fund these? Magic money tree?

I also think you are in the minority on this.

It is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.

armaghniac

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 12:01:14 AMIt is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.

Only the high profile games, so half the counties would never appear? Is that the GAA you want?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

onefineday

Don't see much wrong with cavanagh's comments in that the gaa has huge cash reserves and is undoubtedly cherry picking attractive games to try and drive subscriptions to gaago.
I recall this being denied by rte/gaa last year, but seriously....

Interesting to hear burns now state that he wants gaago to be a major revenue generator for the association, it'd be great to know how the numbers are looking in that regard?
What was the revenue generated for 2023 like, was there a profit generated?
Only when we see the first few years of numbers will we know if this is a failed vanity project, which has caused tremendous harm to the goodwill of gaa and promotion of our games or a crucial revenue generating stream that's here to stay.
I know which scenario my money is on anyway!!

I do think there's a market for a gaa streaming service, but it should be for games that won't be shown on TV otherwise and it should include the various club championships which are currently on a myriad of different platforms.

Truthsayer

Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 12:11:57 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 12:01:14 AMIt is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.

Only the high profile games, so half the counties would never appear? Is that the GAA you want?
That is some interpretation on what I said! 😆 whatever games are covered should be free to air but they are selling off the profitable high prestige games. Its not that complicated!

onefineday

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:55:07 PMNo need to be tarnishing a mans business ffs!

If he's not great at being a pundit, that's grand, but lots of lads behind the computer putting a mans and his families business down is out of order
I didn't see the comments, but cavanagh's firm is doing very well by the looks of it with 4 or 5 offices now open and about 50 staff including many qualified professionals - so I doubt the comments on here would have too much impact on its future. Fair play to him.

Rufus T Firefly

Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2024, 10:13:27 PMAny idea what the €500 million refers to?

Yes, he referred to two different groups / lists of commitments - one was in relation to new / improved centres of excellence (with both Armagh and Monaghan getting a mention) and the other to GAA Stadium infrastructure projects - this latter list included Kerry, Tipp, Louth, Meath, Kildare and Antrim.

tonto1888

The GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past

imtommygunn

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 01:48:38 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2024, 12:11:57 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 12:01:14 AMIt is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.

Only the high profile games, so half the counties would never appear? Is that the GAA you want?
That is some interpretation on what I said! 😆 whatever games are covered should be free to air but they are selling off the profitable high prestige games. Its not that complicated!

It was one game. When the knock out stages and the finals are going this way then you need to complain. Don't forget that, probably, one of the main reasons the hurling would have been on GAA GO would have been because RTE were showing the provincial finals. That is not the case. Sure GAA Go more or less stops at quarter final or before.

gallsman

Was pointed out that they're obliged to have provincial finals on TV by law. Would many be crying if the Leinster finals in either code weren't live on RTE to enable them to show some more Munster hurling?

RedHand88

Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2024, 08:35:00 AMWas pointed out that they're obliged to have provincial finals on TV by law. Would many be crying if the Leinster finals in either code weren't live on RTE to enable them to show some more Munster hurling?

Yes, the Leinster final was very good this year.

gallsman

Then people have to accept that there is a limit to what RTE can or will show. They can't have wall to wall GAA over the course of a weekend, especially if legally obliged to have the two finals from Sunday on.