RG at arms length

[Hand of God]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

[Milltown Row2]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

[Snapchap]

She didnt go on public record, she made a comment on facebook and didnt report it to the Garda,thats not public Record.

Posting to social media very much IS public record. The clue is in the name.

[Hand of God]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

[twohands!!!]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

A General Manager in the NFL famously said "If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3, we'd probably diagnose it as an eating disorder."

Unfortunately this seems to be a sentiment shared by a sizable minority of people accross a lot of sports.

[imtommygunn]

I don't think anyone is defending him though. The thing is Burns went on a solo run. In any of these threads that involve legalities I always find the poster David McKeown a great voice of reason.

What Burns did wrt Gallagher was wrong. Any self respecting club or county shouldn't have him about the place. It's ok to hold both views. The thing people are defending is where do you draw the line with people who are not found guilty in a court of law and you set a precedent which you basically can't adhere to or you make very difficult to adhere to. What should happen in this scenario is that it should be discretionary for the club or county to "employ" him and then you have to ask if you were from one of these clubs of counties would you want him about the place.

Tbh the bit that got my goat up a bit was that one poster seemed to be trivialising what a player did when he maimed a young woman when he was drunk driving and it was being palmed off as innocuous and nothing like what Gallagher was alleged to be guilty of. He has admitted guilt in the courts and is to go to trial. However poster was willing to give him a bye ball but Gallagher not.

[Milltown Row2]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

Who is defending him? You keep making up allegations on posters here ffs! Saying they are defending him and what not, without actually showing any proof of it! Put your head in a cooler and breathe

[Hand of God]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

Who is defending him? You keep making up allegations on posters here ffs! Saying they are defending him and what not, without actually showing any proof of it! Put your head in a cooler and breathe

You're not making much sense here. You are going to great lengths to argue with me here and are accusing me of things I never said. You are answering questions for other posters who won't answer themselves. When the same question is put to you, you won't answer that either.

All I have said is Burns was right to intervene when certain clubs disgraced themselves and pursued Gallagher in the knowledge of what he is accused of. My second point is that I find her and her account of events to be very credible and this is why I think Gallagher should be a pariah within the GAA with this hanging over him.

You need to ask yourself why you are going to great lengths to argue those points. What's your motivation here?

You were happy to answer questions for other posters so I'll ask you again what I asked that poster and you wouldn't answer yourself.

What is it about Nicola Gallagher and her allegations you don't find credible?

We all know you are quite mouthy and full of opinions on lots of different things, I'm just surprised you don't want to offer this specific opinion on a topic you are happy to give lots of other opinions on in favour of Rory Gallagher.

[Milltown Row2]

I've answered many times so look back, I ain't repeating myself

[Wildweasel74]

Wouldnt answer what? I aint standing up for Gallagher u p***k! u mentioned earlier about stuff been on record. LG made a statement to police and to reporter so thats on record. The friend made the post on fb, that not on a record as it would been if she say it to a garda. Facebook post aint took as a record. Police statement, social workers, Doctor,Lawyers statements would be offical records

[David McKeown]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

Who is defending him? You keep making up allegations on posters here ffs! Saying they are defending him and what not, without actually showing any proof of it! Put your head in a cooler and breathe

You're not making much sense here. You are going to great lengths to argue with me here and are accusing me of things I never said. You are answering questions for other posters who won't answer themselves. When the same question is put to you, you won't answer that either.

All I have said is Burns was right to intervene when certain clubs disgraced themselves and pursued Gallagher in the knowledge of what he is accused of. My second point is that I find her and her account of events to be very credible and this is why I think Gallagher should be a pariah within the GAA with this hanging over him.

You need to ask yourself why you are going to great lengths to argue those points. What's your motivation here?

You were happy to answer questions for other posters so I'll ask you again what I asked that poster and you wouldn't answer yourself.

What is it about Nicola Gallagher and her allegations you don't find credible?

We all know you are quite mouthy and full of opinions on lots of different things, I'm just surprised you don't want to offer this specific opinion on a topic you are happy to give lots of other opinions on in favour of Rory Gallagher.

I'm simply curious what you mean by whilst these allegations are still hanging around him?  Do you mean that the only way he should be back involved is if the two individuals did a volte face and came out and said they lied? I mean there's no mechanism for anyone to prove their innocence.  If so where is the line?

Again for the avoidance of doubt I am in no way casting aspirations on those involved. I am asking from a more theoretical perspective

[Hand of God]

The item on public record i am on about is the incident that happened in Clones,The fermanagh fballers wife made the comment on fb bcking her up but didnt report it to the Garda when NG make the public statement at the time.

I don't understand your point. Are you saying both Nicola Gallagher and his wife made the allegation up?

I've read his post a few times, and I'm struggling to see where Wildweasel has said they made it up?

Put it up in bold so I can read it again

I'm asking him what he is trying to say. He hasn't answered me, maybe you should let him answer it. Are you saying they made it up? Are you saying that the allegations Nicola Gallagher has made are not credible? Are you saying that her friend, a wife of a former teammates of Gallagher, is also not credible?

It's no wonder we have such a terrible stigma in the north with domestic abuse when an allegation of physical abuse is attempted to be discredited.

They are very detailed allegations made a victim who waived her anonymity about Gallagher. I just don't get why some people are so adamant to defend Gallagher from these allegations. He should not be involved in the GAA as long as they follow him around.

Who is defending him? You keep making up allegations on posters here ffs! Saying they are defending him and what not, without actually showing any proof of it! Put your head in a cooler and breathe

You're not making much sense here. You are going to great lengths to argue with me here and are accusing me of things I never said. You are answering questions for other posters who won't answer themselves. When the same question is put to you, you won't answer that either.

All I have said is Burns was right to intervene when certain clubs disgraced themselves and pursued Gallagher in the knowledge of what he is accused of. My second point is that I find her and her account of events to be very credible and this is why I think Gallagher should be a pariah within the GAA with this hanging over him.

You need to ask yourself why you are going to great lengths to argue those points. What's your motivation here?

You were happy to answer questions for other posters so I'll ask you again what I asked that poster and you wouldn't answer yourself.

What is it about Nicola Gallagher and her allegations you don't find credible?

We all know you are quite mouthy and full of opinions on lots of different things, I'm just surprised you don't want to offer this specific opinion on a topic you are happy to give lots of other opinions on in favour of Rory Gallagher.

I'm simply curious what you mean by whilst these allegations are still hanging around him?  Do you mean that the only way he should be back involved is if the two individuals did a volte face and came out and said they lied? I mean there's no mechanism for anyone to prove their innocence.  If so where is the line?

Again for the avoidance of doubt I am in no way casting aspirations on those involved. I am asking from a more theoretical perspective

The allegations for me are monstrous, multiples hospitalisations, broken bones, dragged down a public street by her hair, gouging broken ribs, bitings and strangling on a woman. What has been alleged there is horrific.

This isn't a case of whether he should be in jail or not. There is a different precedent there to satisfy before it goes to trial or gaining convictions.

What matters is we there is any ounce of credibility to them then Gallagher should be nowhere near the GAA. Burns should never have been in a place to intervene. Once the allegations became public then that should have been it.

The Derry County Board can be criticised but eventually did the right thing at their own accord. The clubs however who have pursued Gallagher in full knowledge of what he is alleged to have committed are utterly disgraced and have brought the GAA into disrepute IMO.

We are not talking legal. The GAA should be protecting their reputation and setting examples for the public. This is the key issue here, if we deem the allegations to be credible then we must treat with seriousness they are worth. Dismissing or looking for technicalities for Gallagher to operate is very poor optics particularly with domestic violence issues up north.

A telling thing for me is Gallagher has never tried to clear his name, IMO. He has hoped the whole thing would blow over and become yesterday's news. Has he ever actually denied the allegations other than cite investigations of systems that consistently fail victims of domestic violence where the evidence threshold is extremely high?

I happen to find Nicola Gallagher extremely credible. It was a very brave thing to come forward, she addressed the press on it, she provided huge amount of specific details and one specific incident was even corroborated by a wife of Gallagher's former team mates. So why are certain people willing to dismiss this so flippantly?

It's either one of two things here, Gallagher is the victim of a vindictive ex who is attempting to torch him with false allegations or Gallagher is guilty of the monstrous allegations. The GAA have an onus to judge this on the basis of who is more credible here, not looking after their own member as he has a big profile and this is huge issue across the nation with GAA stars. If they are talented - clubs, counties and the association itself are willing to overlook actions that should see they expelled. This is at the extreme gravity of what a member has been publicly accused of before.

[tiempo]

In short, the court of public opinion, ye could of just said that

[Mario]

He's denied the allegations in the last two statements from his solicitor

[Baile Brigín 2]

In short, the court of public opinion, ye could of just said that

That's trite. The point almost everyone agrees on is the GAA, or any sports organisation, can't just ignore allegations like this. The question is what process is in place and if there isn't one why not.