Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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yellowcard

I wonder was Ferguson consulted over the decision to sack Moyes, would be very surprised if he was. This surely casts doubts over Ferguson remaining as a director at the club.

thebigfella

In fairness all Moyes backroom staff bar Woods and Neville got shown the door too, so there is not really anyone else there to take over. In reality it was between Giggs and Neville on first team coaching staff and I suppose Giggs a bit prettier for the post match interviews.

At least this way any appointment could be wrapped up before the world cup; otherwise it will run on all summer.

magpie seanie

Quote from: yellowcard on April 22, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
I wonder was Ferguson consulted over the decision to sack Moyes, would be very surprised if he was. This surely casts doubts over Ferguson remaining as a director at the club.

I would be shocked if (a) he wasn't consulted and (b) didn't agree with it.

highorlow

QuoteI think it would have looked more professional, from a PLC point of view, to have kept Moyes for the 4 games and do business behind closed doors in the closed season.

I think the problem is this years closed season involves the world cup. If you are to out and buy a new team your likely to get better value before the world cup so they will need a new person in come May.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

muppet

Quote from: rodney trotter on April 22, 2014, 02:11:22 PM
Giggs is the only Utd player current or past with the Uefa A Pro licence badge, so temporary interim manager shouldn't be an issue..

I had written a longer post but the board crashed.

Any here goes again.

According to this Guardian article, Giggs only started his 18 months course with Neville last month.

Also here is a selection from the list of UEFA Pro Licence qualified coaches (NB The FA hasn't published a list for the period 2010 - present)

2009
Mike Phelan

2008
Roy Keane

2006
René Meulensteen

2005
Bryan Robson

2004
Mark hughes
Joe Jordan

2003
David Platt
MWWSI 2017

muppet

Actually, scratch the above, it looks as if Giggs' course started before last month.

Here he is doing his media training last January:

MWWSI 2017

Billys Boots

QuoteUefa A Pro licence badge

No such thing - the Pro Licence is what's needed for a permanent manager.  I imagine Giggs has been doing his UEFA A course and assessment and has started the Pro Licence course - professional footballers of a certain level are exempted from the normal coaching pathways; in Ireland (Airtricity League) they usually have to start at UEFA Youth Cert.  I'd imagine someone with Giggs' experience probably started at UEFA A, rather than B. 
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

Geoff Tipps

Quote from: rodney trotter on April 22, 2014, 02:11:22 PM
Giggs is the only Utd player current or past with the Uefa A Pro licence badge, so temporary interim manager shouldn't be an issue..


The Pro license trumps the Uefa A and B licenses.
Giggs doesn't even have his Pro licence yet.
There are a number of ex players who have the Pro licence.
I don't know what this licence is you think Giggs has! Does it even exist??

Milltown Row2

Quote from: yellowcard on April 22, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
I wonder was Ferguson consulted over the decision to sack Moyes, would be very surprised if he was. This surely casts doubts over Ferguson remaining as a director at the club.

Source??
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Shrewdness

Moyes was United's shortest serving manager since 1927. He waited at Carrington this morning to personally wish all the players good luck for the future.. Reports that United officials met Van Gaal 10 days ago...Any chance of some coaching role for Paul Scholes?

magpie seanie

Quote from: Shrewdness on April 22, 2014, 03:16:59 PM
Moyes was United's shortest serving manager since 1927. He waited at Carrington this morning to personally wish all the players good luck for the future.. Reports that United officials met Van Gaal 10 days ago...Any chance of some coaching role for Paul Scholes?

If he came back playing he'd be better than the lampshade!

gawa316

Anyone got Steve Kean's number?

ross4life

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I presume this 5/6 year contract given to Moyes had a stipulation of having to reach the champions league which is fair enough for the defending PL champions. If sold tomorrow i'd wonder how much Mata,Fellaini be worth now? why Moyes a manager that was known for bargain signings at Everton paid over the odds for players at United will remain a mystery. As been said already he was out of his depth and why a manager with better CV wasn't brought in to replace Fergie is another mystery

Moyes not all to blame though the way most of the players gave up months ago was downright disgraceful. Something was rotten behind the scenes i thought the 2nd leg v Bayern was very telling, Moyes with his arms folded while a number of players blanking him & discussed tactics with Ryan Giggs.

Where to now? top 4 a must but TBH i can't see United challenging for the title next year it looks like Van Gaal will be the next manager & his first job will be to bring stability to the club he's in his 60s now so its wouldn't surprise me if someone like Klopp or Guardiola take over in the years ahead.



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magpie seanie

Quote from: ross4life on April 22, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
I presume this 5/6 year contract given to Moyes had a stipulation of having to reach the champions league which is fair enough for the defending PL champions. If sold tomorrow i'd wonder how much Mata,Fellaini be worth now? why Moyes a manager that was known for bargain signings at Everton paid over the odds for players at United will remain a mystery. As been said already he was out of his depth and why a manager with better CV wasn't brought in to replace Fergie is another mystery

Moyes not all to blame though the way most of the players gave up months ago was downright disgraceful. Something was rotten behind the scenes i thought the 2nd leg v Bayern was very telling, Moyes with his arms folded while a number of players blanking him & discussed tactics with Ryan Giggs.

Where to now? top 4 a must but TBH i can't see United challenging for the title next year it looks like Van Gaal will be the next manager & his first job will be to bring stability the club he's in his 60s now so its wouldn't surprise me if someone like Klopp or Guardiola take over in the years ahead.

Mata is a top player. A coach who has some tactical nous will get him back producing his best form. I wouldn't regret the money spent on him for a second. Fellaini - different story.

yellowcard

Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 22, 2014, 05:16:52 PM
I presume this 5/6 year contract given to Moyes had a stipulation of having to reach the champions league which is fair enough for the defending PL champions. If sold tomorrow i'd wonder how much Mata,Fellaini be worth now? why Moyes a manager that was known for bargain signings at Everton paid over the odds for players at United will remain a mystery. As been said already he was out of his depth and why a manager with better CV wasn't brought in to replace Fergie is another mystery

Moyes not all to blame though the way most of the players gave up months ago was downright disgraceful. Something was rotten behind the scenes i thought the 2nd leg v Bayern was very telling, Moyes with his arms folded while a number of players blanking him & discussed tactics with Ryan Giggs.

Where to now? top 4 a must but TBH i can't see United challenging for the title next year it looks like Van Gaal will be the next manager & his first job will be to bring stability the club he's in his 60s now so its wouldn't surprise me if someone like Klopp or Guardiola take over in the years ahead.

Mata is a top player. A coach who has some tactical nous will get him back producing his best form. I wouldn't regret the money spent on him for a second. Fellaini - different story.

Wouldn't disagree that Mata is a top player but was way over priced at £37m considering that they already had Rooney and Kagawa who are similar type players. Rooney is, and will continue to be a problem. Over hyped and past his best, yet many fans are still under the illusion that he's the main man. Now that he has his new contract he will be stuck at the club for years and has created a dangerous benchmark in terms of wages for incoming signings.