Man Utd Thread:

[magpie seanie]

It has been said that the best job in football would be to take over from the man who succeeds Alex ferguson. Obviously the thinking being that ferguson would have the bar set too high. A new sacrificial lamb would come in and bear the brunt of the inevitable frustrations. Then the next man up would have a huge club with probably looser purse strings and more manageable expectations.

I suppose we are about to find out.

Are they an attractive proposition to a top manager though?  More like a difficult challenge.

Some of there main players last season.

Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Scholes
Giggs
Rooney
Van Persie

All too old or in the case of Rooney and Van Persie overrated.

They have an aging squad and are a PLC with 60 million interest on there debt to pay every year, so they can't go mad buying anyone and everyone like Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid.

The rules of the game have changed my friend. The teams you mention (with the possible exception of Chelsea) are the ones who "can't go mad" buying players because of Financial Fair Play. Despite leaking ridiculous sums in interest payments and other siphoning off by the Glazers, United are a very profitable club and have oceans of scope to splash the cash. The Glazers will temporarily have to take their noses out of the trough but will be glad to do so to rebuild their cash generation machine.

Obviously no-one advocates "going mad" spending money but United's rebuild project can be carried out with significant investment coupled with offloading some second/third rate players. Despite one disastrous season, Manchester United is a huge name in world soccer and an attractive prospect to most in the game.

[Minder]

If it was Van Gaal you would think his autocratic style will ruffle the feathers of a few of the "leaders" in the dressing room, can't imagine Rooney getting consulted on transfer targets either.

[magpie seanie]

If it was Van Gaal you would think his autocratic style will ruffle the feathers of a few of the "leaders" in the dressing room, can't imagine Rooney getting consulted on transfer targets either.

I'd say RVP would be a bit happier for one.

[brokencrossbar1]

What would the feeling be if the Special One replace the Chosen One?  Is it a runner at all?

[beer baron]

Is it totally ludicrous to think Simeone could come? Has done an amazing Job with Atletico and could end the season with one of the most unlikely doubles of this generation with a side that will be picked apart in the summer with Koke,Miranda and Costa all likely to leave.

It'd be the perfect time for him to get out as surely the feat wouldn't be repeated by them. United as a big club with some really good players,offering him a  huge warchest might seem an exciting proposition,with Utds position this year being a bonus rather than a hinderance. I'm a glass half full kinda guy 

[Shrewdness]

Mourinho would love the job. I wonder what Fellaini is making of it all. Good post a couple of pages back from laoislad about Moyes. Summed him up perfectly.

[BennyCake]

What would the feeling be if the Special One replace the Chosen One?  Is it a runner at all?

Can't see it. Last season was the ideal time to get Mourinho.

[thebigfella]

Feel sorry for Moyes but as a Utd fan I feel this is the turning point. Big name manager (I suspect Van Gaal) to come in with a few massive signings in the summer. The ABUs are obviously on here pissed off I can understand their frustrations as Utds downturn will be short lived. Good times await. 

Considering how your idiotic predictions turned out this season; all the ABU's are sh1tting themselves with the excitement on what will happen next 

[rodney trotter]

Antonio Conte wouldn't be bad a choice either. Van Gaal would be a big names, doesn't stay long wherever he goes though.

Saw this from his time at Barca

Positive:
- He played an attractive brand of football, based on his time at Ajax
- He was instructed to bed in young talent, he gave debuts to Iniesta, Puyol, Valdes, Pepe Reina and Thiago Motta
- Iniesta says his generation are very thankful for his contribution
- Real Madrid never won the league when he was manager
- In three seasons he won 3 trophies, 2 league titles and a Copa Del Rey
- Tactically astute.


Negative:
- He fell out with the fans "Barcelona aren't as big a team as people in Catalonia think"
- The press hated him
- Authoritarian rule over the club, he was seen as almost too aggressive
- Fell out with the big players, half the dressing room was against him.
- When he left, the players practically threw a party
- Fell out with Stoichkov & Rivaldo, important players.
- "He was a brilliant coach on the training pitch, but hard to get on with"

[Hereiam]

Say hello to your new manager

[yellowcard]

One bad season and Moyes is fired, so much for standing by your manager, I wonder how Ferguson is feeling this morning. Moyes didn't look comfortable in the job but I felt he at least deserved another season to put his stamp on the club but the United board have changed tack and they are now back to square one. There are some huge problems ahead at Man Utd such as the Rooney contract and the massive clear out needed. I feel sorry for Moyes as the squad he inherited was probably even worse than he initially had thought. A young progressive coach such as Klopp or Simeone is what is needed now not a quick fix option like a Van Gaal or Mourinho.

[From the Bunker]

One bad season and Moyes is fired, so much for standing by your manager, I wonder how Ferguson is feeling this morning. Moyes didn't look comfortable in the job but I felt he at least deserved another season to put his stamp on the club but the United board have changed tack and they are now back to square one. There are some huge problems ahead at Man Utd such as the Rooney contract and the massive clear out needed. I feel sorry for Moyes as the squad he inherited was probably even worse than he initially had thought. A young progressive coach such as Klopp or Simeone is what is needed now not a quick fix option like a Van Gaal or Mourinho.

They are not back to square one. They are a notch or two below that. Unlike Moyes they are no fore warned of what is ahead. There will be allot of top class Managers that will look at the Utd Job and be worried about the task ahead. They won't want to dirty their bib by going into a job that has potentially an array of problems.

[muppet]

Muppet, if you check my post about Giggs, you'll see that i said ''Interim'' manager. You highlighted it yourself. What i'm saying is that Giggs might be asked to steer them through the last four games untii the permanent manager takes over in the summer. The leading contenders all have jobs at the moment, and will hardly leave them until the season is over.

I saw 'Interim' and tbh I am astonished that you were right.

While he was a really great player in his day, I have seen nothing whatsoever to suggest management ability, never mind Man Utd manager. Even if they have written off this season it is a daft appointment in my view and signals the sense of panic behind the scenes.

Regarding the choice of Giggs, presumably it is because he is the longest serving player? For me Vidic might have commanded some respect within and outside the club. I even think Ferdinand, who I don't have huge respect for either, has played under lots of different managers for club and country and would have been a better choice. (Wales doesn't compare - especially when you look at his relatively paltry 64 caps - Roy Keane who was maligned for his commitment to Ireland has more caps than the evergreen Giggs).

Gary Neville must be regretting his retirement.

[magpie seanie]

Muppet, if you check my post about Giggs, you'll see that i said ''Interim'' manager. You highlighted it yourself. What i'm saying is that Giggs might be asked to steer them through the last four games untii the permanent manager takes over in the summer. The leading contenders all have jobs at the moment, and will hardly leave them until the season is over.

I saw 'Interim' and tbh I am astonished that you were right.

While he was a really great player in his day, I have seen nothing whatsoever to suggest management ability, never mind Man Utd manager. Even if they have written off this season it is a daft appointment in my view and signals the sense of panic behind the scenes.

Regarding the choice of Giggs, presumably it is because he is the longest serving player? For me Vidic might have commanded some respect within and outside the club. I even think Ferdinand, who I don't have huge respect for either, has played under lots of different managers for club and country and would have been a better choice. (Wales doesn't compare - especially when you look at his relatively paltry 64 caps - Roy Keane who was maligned for his commitment to Ireland has more caps than the evergreen Giggs).

Gary Neville must be regretting his retirement.

Giggs is only going to be in charge until the end of the season. AFAIK he has done all the coaching qualifications or certainly a lot of them. He would be hugely respected within the club and among the players. Can't see what the problem is with him as a caretaker for 4 games that even if United win they might not get a Europa spot for.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Say hello to your new manager

Wouldnt be enough helicopters to lift him into the contract sigining!