vegetarians

[JohnDenver]

There is cruelty in almost every industry, doesn't stop you wearing clothes, or spending money.  Pile of shite IMO.

[omaghjoe]

Went veg a few times when travelling because of food cleanliness issues. Saw it as a type of necessity at that time but it didn't save me from getting sick and left me feeling weak and lethargic so I probably won't do it again.

Think much of it is misguided especially the health stuff especially now that fat (especially animal fat) is no longer the enemy ....its actually sugar, which comes from a plant. I also think that many plant foods are bad for our digestive system as they take so long to process. For example compare how long it takes your stomach to process a leaf of lettuce compared to a lump of steak, now compare their nutritional value, the steak is way better for you.
Also India has a very high proportion of veggies and it has a lot of mineral deficiency diseases, like rickets and so on. Not necessarily the only factor of course. Of course there is also diseases like Scurvy which are caused by lack of fruit however all meat diets never have scurvy as a problem

Also meat has been the main source of energy for us since b4 we were even humans there is not one thing that you eat is better you than better for you than meat...the clue is in the taste, what tastes better than a lump of steak or some pork fat? hell have you ever tasted chips cooked in lard vs veg oil? they are like night and day.

Ethical issues is something for yourself I suppose, don't really understand it myself considering human history has centered around hunting until the advent of civilisation when it centered around farming.

In saying all of that Im not even saying don't be veggie, the only thing I would say is don't eat processed food.

[gawa316]

Could never do it.

I'd kill someone for a rasher of bacon.

The wife was a veggie when I first met her. She came over from the States with the oul hippy attitude, soon knocked that out of her and she chowing down on the old cookstowns like they were going out of fashion! (no comment needed)

[Puckoon]

Been putting more veggies into the diet recently, but still need the fish, chicken and red meat to keep myself balanced at least. Steak, spinach and oatmeal for breakfast.

Have been paying a little extra for wild caught salmon and tuna,  non hormone pumped chicken, and grass fed beef.

I've been eating a very balanced, yet strict diet for the last 16 days and am down 9lbs.

[armaghniac]

Been putting more veggies into the diet recently, but still need the fish, chicken and red meat to keep myself balanced at least. Steak, spinach and oatmeal for breakfast.

Have been paying a little extra for wild caught salmon and tuna,  non hormone pumped chicken, and grass fed beef.

I've been eating a very balanced, yet strict diet for the last 16 days and am down 9lbs.

If you lived in a civilised country, all of the beef would be grass fed.

[omaghjoe]

Been putting more veggies into the diet recently, but still need the fish, chicken and red meat to keep myself balanced at least. Steak, spinach and oatmeal for breakfast.

Have been paying a little extra for wild caught salmon and tuna,  non hormone pumped chicken, and grass fed beef.

I've been eating a very balanced, yet strict diet for the last 16 days and am down 9lbs.

If you lived in a civilised country, all of the beef would be grass fed.

All American beef is grass fed until its goes for finishing...same as Irish beef

Unless you live in Argentine or South Africa or somewhere you will have great dificulty getting beef that is exclusively grass feed

[armaghniac]

Been putting more veggies into the diet recently, but still need the fish, chicken and red meat to keep myself balanced at least. Steak, spinach and oatmeal for breakfast.

Have been paying a little extra for wild caught salmon and tuna,  non hormone pumped chicken, and grass fed beef.

I've been eating a very balanced, yet strict diet for the last 16 days and am down 9lbs.

If you lived in a civilised country, all of the beef would be grass fed.

All American beef is grass fed until its goes for finishing...same as Irish beef

Unless you live in Argentine or South Africa or somewhere you will have great dificulty getting beef that is exclusively grass feed

Irish beef eats some grass and some grain, US beef does also, but the proportions are different.

[omaghjoe]

Been putting more veggies into the diet recently, but still need the fish, chicken and red meat to keep myself balanced at least. Steak, spinach and oatmeal for breakfast.

Have been paying a little extra for wild caught salmon and tuna,  non hormone pumped chicken, and grass fed beef.

I've been eating a very balanced, yet strict diet for the last 16 days and am down 9lbs.

If you lived in a civilised country, all of the beef would be grass fed.

All American beef is grass fed until its goes for finishing...same as Irish beef

Unless you live in Argentine or South Africa or somewhere you will have great difficulty getting beef that is exclusively grass feed

Irish beef eats some grass and some grain, US beef does also, but the proportions are different.

That might be true but the point is neither are exclusively grass fed. In fact much American beef is ranched so they consume wild natural grass unlike in Ireland where much of the grass is grass is pumped up with artificial fertilizer.

Overall tho Irish beef is probably better considering the use of growth hormones. Would be hard to differentiate in taste tho in my experience. However the wild beef in SA & Argentina tastes phenomenal.

[Íseal agus crua isteach a]

Its been just over a year since I went Veggie. Curious to know if there are any other Veggies on the board?

I was massive meatie before turning veggie and had a big soft spot for chorizo.
Changed because of the horrible way in which meat is produced, cruel and horrible unethical. Meat is very unenvironmentally friendly.

Since turning I have never felt healthier, have reduced cholesterol and have lost weight.

Im also a vegetarian and have been for thirteen years,  for the exact same reason as you stated. Was always a big meat eater up to that, until  one lent i decided to give up white meat. After lent i decided not to go back to eating white meat and gave up red meat as well.

I get my protein from eggs, spinach, cheese etc (not vegan).

My diet plan is simple eat like a king in the morning. Eat like a queen in the middle of the day and eat like a popper at night. Usually in the evening I drink a nutria bullet shake. Which consists of super foods like broccoli mixed with fruit and omegas like chia seed. These give you and incredible lease of life.

Im now 41 and heading off to play hurling in indianapolis in the morning. I believe 90% of being "fairly" active is due to diet.

Now and then but  less and less I have a taste for meat. Whole foods super market beside where I live sell non gmo substitute
meat and I will take that instead.

Every day I try to take vitamins (if I don't run out) especially B12 which I think we all should take very good for the heart.

My kids go to a montessorri school where they teach children what they are eating. I think thats the way it should be.

[topcuppla]

Probably more boys on here love the beef than those who don't.

youre top of the pile ye closet shirt lifter

Oh I see the way you took that comment now, each to his own, you go for it kid.

[Main Street]

I am a vegetarian since my mature age of 15. No meat, eggs  and something else I forget.
My shit sure smells sweet and even the guys on the cesspit emptier truck come out and double check that they are connected to the right hole in the ground.

[omaghjoe]

I am a vegetarian since my mature age of 15. No meat, eggs  and something else I forget.
My shit sure smells sweet and even the guys on the cesspit emptier truck come out and double check that they are connected to the right hole in the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pWhXv4ZVE

[Main Street]

I am a vegetarian since my mature age of 15. No meat, eggs  and something else I forget.
My shit sure smells sweet and even the guys on the cesspit emptier truck come out and double check that they are connected to the right hole in the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pWhXv4ZVE

Surely you don't expect a man of my refined tastes to listen to that stuff.
Though I could extrapolate that the message you wanted to convey was that shít is shít  no matter whose bum it drops out off?

If you had claimed  that all hip hop sounds the same when coming out through the same loudspeaker, your opinion might have resonated in a way I could relate to.

[omaghjoe]

I am a vegetarian since my mature age of 15. No meat, eggs  and something else I forget.
My shit sure smells sweet and even the guys on the cesspit emptier truck come out and double check that they are connected to the right hole in the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pWhXv4ZVE

Surely you don't expect a man of my refined tastes to listen to that stuff.
Though I could extrapolate that the message you wanted to convey was that shít is shít  no matter whose bum it drops out off?

If you had claimed  that all hip hop sounds the same when coming out through the same loudspeaker, your opinion might have resonated in a way I could relate to.

Hmm yeah well double entendre then ehh

Although I sorta liked Outkast

i never heard of Farney vegeterian tho I presume they ran you out of it years ago?

[Eamonnca1]

Meat-free for three-and-a-half years. Can't say I miss it in a big way. I get a bit nostalgic for bacon the odd time but that's about it.

I'd been steadily reducing my meat intake over the years for one reason or another. Actually went veggie before when I was a student but didn't stick it for very long because the meat substitutes weren't great back then and my culinary skills had been built around meaty dishes. When the mad cow thing came to light I cut back on the beef.

When I first came to the states I had to eat out non-stop for the first month or two because I was living out of a hotel, and my guts started hurting so I knew something was up. I found it harder to keep the weight off, but I found that if I went without meat for a few days my weight would settle and my guts would feel better. I read Fast Food Nation and that was enough to all but kill my habit of eating fast food.

I gradually just reduced meat out of my diet, but a turning point came when I was seeing a girl who was vegan. She introduced me to some new recipes which I adopted, and at that point I just went for it and tried the vegan thing. Had a little ceremony of emptying all animal products out of the fridge and freezer. When we broke up I resumed the yoghurt and cheese which I was fond of, but stuck to the almond milk which I found was nicer than dairy milk anyway. Since then I've cut back on cheese which I find hard to digest, and yoghurt which is all loaded with sugar anyway. I still like eggs and French toast for my breakfast a few times a week, so I'm not completely vegan by any means. If someone comes up with a decent egg substitute then I'll give it a go.

My most recent dietary adjustment is eliminating most processed foods. I live close to the shops so I might as well make use of that and eat fresh. The company I'm working for now has a good cafeteria that serves delicious fresh food every day. My guts feel a lot better for it, and I can't say I have any trouble with nutrition. As far as I know I don't have rickets and my muscles seem to get enough protein to recover from exercise. I eat out less than I used to, but when I do I actually find it helps to be a veggie because it takes less time to pick from the menu since there's only a handful of options, unless you're in a vegetarian restaurant.

If I still lived in Europe I might have been slower to kick the meat habit, but the food supply here in the states is a different story. In the UK it's the supermarkets that call the shots, but here it's the food producers that have all the congressmen bought, so I just don't trust them. And if you drive by that enormous cattle feed lot by Interstate 5 on the way to LA, I'd be surprised if you ever ate beef again after the sight and the smell you get.

I've always been a bit queasy about the idea of killing animals for food. I know we had to in the early days of the species and it was a big factor in why we developed to be so dominant, but I think we've evolved to the point where we no longer need to eat animals. Our front teeth are good for chewing meat, but the molars at the back are good for grinding fruit and vegetables too. We can do both, we've always been adaptable. We understand a lot more now about where energy comes from and how nutrition works. Plus there's a huge environmental impact with animal agriculture. When sunlight's converted to nutrients in the plant, it's more efficient to eat the plant and get the energy direct than running plants through an animal for years to produce meat. In hunter-gatherer days you'd burn x number of calories chasing down your prey and exhausting it, get y calories from eating it, and come out ahead by z calories, so that made a lot of sense. The agricultural age changed all that though, and the industrial age has changed it again. With the way we've developed now and when you've got this many people in the world and all these animals using up so many resources to keep them fed, that's causing huge damage in terms of waste disposal, greenhouse gas emissions and more.

I could see vegetarianism becoming more common as time goes on, we might even evolve to the point where we stop eating meat altogether. But I'm certainly not going to berate anyone else's dietary choices, if people want to give up meat it's a decision they can only come to themselves. And I'm not going to make sweeping generalizations about the personality of meat eaters based on the ones I've met. Why would anyone be stupid enough to do that?