Drugs in UK sports....

[Dinny Breen]

If anything, I'd have expected Sahko to be caught for Cocaine!

Would probably get a bigger ban too.

Is there any sports that take drugs serious? Or is just all about the money?

[theskull1]

Anyone who follows cycling have a hold on how big and widespread the secret electric motor scandal is yet?

Professional sports/sportsmen will go to whatever lengths they feel they can get away with to get to the money.

[Dinny Breen]

Anyone who follows cycling have a hold on how big and widespread the secret electric motor scandal is yet?

Professional sports/sportsmen will go to whatever lengths they feel they can get away with to get to the money.

Mechanical doping being going in motor sports for years. Didn't the America's Cup have a big scandal as well.

It's just human nature. Juts thinking about Cricket a civilised game, from Borderline to ball tampering, people will still do anything to win, add in money and it's a given.

[lenny]

I think it's the nature of it. A fat burning drug. But it is cheating, and he is an idiot, and he's going to get a ban, rightly so.

So if he wasn't taking this fat burning drug he would be fatter which would make him slower and affect his stamina. That makes it performance enhancing.

[Clov]

Anyone who follows cycling have a hold on how big and widespread the secret electric motor scandal is yet?

Professional sports/sportsmen will go to whatever lengths they feel they can get away with to get to the money.

There was a joint French/Italian tv documentary last week that promised to reveal motor use at the Giro using cameras that detect heat sources, however the evidence they presented was fairly weak (going on what i've seen reported - i haven't seen the programme). The UCI have been testing bikes for motors for a few years now suggesting that they may have had a tip off about the practice but at the moment it is mostly just suspicion rather than concrete evidence.

[bennydorano]

They are seeing heat signatures and saying they are motors - no smoke without fire seems a very appropriate adage here.  At the Strade Bianchi race (an Italian one day race used as a Classics warm up) they reckon there was a few at it. I read the story a while back and didn't know what to think, i'd be inclined to wait for definitive proof. Cycling is the only sport where guilt is assumed and you've to prove your innocence.

It's notable that no team has been fingered as yet, so the documentarians aren't 100% or are getting all their legal ducks in a row. It's a new low if true.

[Milltown Row2]

I think it's the nature of it. A fat burning drug. But it is cheating, and he is an idiot, and he's going to get a ban, rightly so.

So if he wasn't taking this fat burning drug he would be fatter which would make him slower and affect his stamina. That makes it performance enhancing.

He has played a lot better recently

[AZOffaly]

I think it's the nature of it. A fat burning drug. But it is cheating, and he is an idiot, and he's going to get a ban, rightly so.

So if he wasn't taking this fat burning drug he would be fatter which would make him slower and affect his stamina. That makes it performance enhancing.

Yep, that's what I said, it is cheating. If you use an artificial, banned, aid to help you get in better condition, then it's cheating. Even if it's not a masking agent for something else.

[Dinny Breen]

I think it's the nature of it. A fat burning drug. But it is cheating, and he is an idiot, and he's going to get a ban, rightly so.

So if he wasn't taking this fat burning drug he would be fatter which would make him slower and affect his stamina. That makes it performance enhancing.

Yep, that's what I said, it is cheating. If you use an artificial, banned, aid to help you get in better condition, then it's cheating. Even if it's not a masking agent for something else.

Do you think it's just isolated to Sahko? I'm looking at Origi here, he's got an awful lot bigger very quickly....

[AZOffaly]

I actually had that exact thought about Origi a couple of weeks ago.  But then I look at Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Sturridge and the other waifs and think 'nah'.

[Dinny Breen]

I actually had that exact thought about Origi a couple of weeks ago.  But then I look at Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Sturridge and the other waifs and think 'nah'.

That's because you are a Liverpool fan, looking in it does raise a flag. Leicester to me are definitely are on something...

[AZOffaly]

What are Arsenal smoking?

[Dinny Breen]

What are Arsenal smoking?

Arsenal currently have no injuries, is that sports science or just science? I am just a complete cynic now.

[muppet]

What are Arsenal smoking?

There is no question that Arsenal is full of dopes.

[lurganblue]

imagine the laugh if anyone at villa is found to be on performance enhancing drugs.  That would put people right off them