Long Kesh Park takes another step forward

[SammyG]

I've said many times that the GAA have played a blinder, they have no need for the stadiium so they vetoed the only workable options and then wait for the whole shebang to collapse. They then say not our fault mate and take their share of the money and move on. I just wish to fcuk the IFA had either the money or the business sense of the GAA and been ableto play the same card.

Never trust a Fenian eh? 

I say 'the GAA played a blinder' and I wish the IFA was as good and in Donagh world this becomes 'never trust a Fenian'. Fcuk me that's brilliant even by your standards.

Well Danny Murphy said on the previous thread they never vetoed anything but all of a sudden you are able to read all of these other machinations. As I said never trust a Fenian...

No he didn't he said that they would only accept the Maze (which is vetoing other sites). If you will only accept one site whatever the case for the others you have exercised a veto.

[snatter]

I've said many times that the GAA have played a blinder, they have no need for the stadiium so they vetoed the only workable options and then wait for the whole shebang to collapse. They then say not our fault mate and take their share of the money and move on. I just wish to fcuk the IFA had either the money or the business sense of the GAA and been ableto play the same card.

The more you have repeated this Veto line the more I suspect it's validity.
Do have any GAA quote source for this?

Read the GAA statement (as posted by snatter) plus the minutes of the various DCAL committees. The GAA vetoed Belfast as they already have a Belfast stadium.

Take the OWC goggles off Sammy.

The GAA merely affirmed that they had chosen the better of two options put to them.

They chose the Maze becasue it was closer to the GAA supporters, and by extension would probably draw bigger crowds than if GAA fans ahad to drive into an dthrough Belfast.

If you think Danny Murphy is lying, then show us the proof.
Otherwise go back to your fantasy world.

[SammyG]

I've said many times that the GAA have played a blinder, they have no need for the stadiium so they vetoed the only workable options and then wait for the whole shebang to collapse. They then say not our fault mate and take their share of the money and move on. I just wish to fcuk the IFA had either the money or the business sense of the GAA and been ableto play the same card.

The more you have repeated this Veto line the more I suspect it's validity.
Do have any GAA quote source for this?

Read the GAA statement (as posted by snatter) plus the minutes of the various DCAL committees. The GAA vetoed Belfast as they already have a Belfast stadium.

Take the OWC goggles off Sammy.

The GAA merely affirmed that they had chosen the netter of two options put to them.

If you think Danny Murphy is lying, then show us the proof.
Otherwise go back to your fantasy world.

He isn't lying, he said that they rejected Belfast, which they did and which is confirmed by DCAL. Read the statement

[Donagh]

No he didn't he said that they would only accept the Maze (which is vetoing other sites). If you will only accept one site whatever the case for the others you have exercised a veto.

"Ulster secretary Murphy has strongly denied the suggestion that the northern GAA body had taken a stance against a stadium in Belfast.

He insisted that the Ulster Council had simply expressed its preference for the Maze site without ever taking a negative position on a city-based stadium. Murphy also noted that the Ulster Council had never been asked to consider the Titanic Quarter site.

Murphy said: "The Ulster GAA considered the two sites which were put forward to us, one on the northern foreshore, and the other one was the Maze/Long Kesh site.

"As far as we were concerned, the Titanic Quarter was eliminated by the time it got to the stage where we were involved. "

[snatter]

I've said many times that the GAA have played a blinder, they have no need for the stadiium so they vetoed the only workable options and then wait for the whole shebang to collapse. They then say not our fault mate and take their share of the money and move on. I just wish to fcuk the IFA had either the money or the business sense of the GAA and been ableto play the same card.

The more you have repeated this Veto line the more I suspect it's validity.
Do have any GAA quote source for this?

Read the GAA statement (as posted by snatter) plus the minutes of the various DCAL committees. The GAA vetoed Belfast as they already have a Belfast stadium.

Take the OWC goggles off Sammy.

The GAA merely affirmed that they had chosen the netter of two options put to them.

If you think Danny Murphy is lying, then show us the proof.
Otherwise go back to your fantasy world.

He isn't lying, he said that they rejected Belfast, which they did and which is confirmed by DCAL. Read the statement

Well I suppose if you choose one of two choices, then the flipside is that you must reject the other.

It doesn't mean that you have somehow got a veto against the other choice.

To illustrate, if had the chance of going out with Kylie or Mylene Klass, I would choose Kylie.

If Kylie dumped me, I certainly wouldn't veto Mylene

[Main Street]

Sammy just reads headlines, well just about.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6912363.stm

without realizing that the source is Poots.

[SammyG]

Well I suppose if you choose one of two choices, then the flipside is that you must reject the other.

It doesn't mean that you have somehow got a veto against the other choice.

To illustrate, if had the chance of going out with Kylie or Mylene Klass, I would choose Kylie.

If Kylie dumped me, I certainly wouldn't veto Mylene

As Kylie is now dead will the GAA be coming on board with Mylene? 

[SammyG]

Sammy just reads headlines, well just about.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6912363.stm

without realizing that the source is Poots.

What headlines? The report says that the GAA vetoed Belfast, which is confirmed in the DCAL minutes and in the GAA statement.

[snatter]

Sammy just reads headlines, well just about.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6912363.stm

without realizing that the source is Poots.

What headlines? The report says that the GAA vetoed Belfast, which is confirmed in the DCAL minutes and in the GAA statement.

WHAT VETO?

Is there an intellectual void somewhere?
Has the huma race started to regress?

I thought the Kylie and Mylene example summed it up perfectly.

Rejecting one option and choosing another for the best of reasons DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A VETO.

Would you seriously contend that by choosing Kylie, I was vetoing Mylene?

If you/DCAl/Poots have any EVIDENCE that the GAA are lying, and have a veto against Belfst, then bring it to the table.

[SammyG]

Sammy just reads headlines, well just about.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6912363.stm

without realizing that the source is Poots.

What headlines? The report says that the GAA vetoed Belfast, which is confirmed in the DCAL minutes and in the GAA statement.

WHAT VETO?

Is there an intellectual void somewhere?
Has the huma race started to regress?

I thought the Kylie and Mylene example summed it up perfectly.

Rejecting one option and choosing another for the best of reasons DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A VETO.

Would you seriously contend that by choosing Kylie, I was vetoing Mylene?

If you/DCAl/Poots have any EVIDENCE that the GAA are lying, and have a veto against Belfst, then bring it to the table.

The GAA said they did not want a Belfast site, knowing that all three sports had to be on board. I don't see how anybody (even you) can say that is not exercising a veto.

p.s. If you genuinely think differently you should contact DCAL, I'm sure they'd be delighted to hear that Poots has been lying to committees.

[snatter]

Sammy just reads headlines, well just about.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6912363.stm

without realizing that the source is Poots.

What headlines? The report says that the GAA vetoed Belfast, which is confirmed in the DCAL minutes and in the GAA statement.

WHAT VETO?

Is there an intellectual void somewhere?
Has the huma race started to regress?

I thought the Kylie and Mylene example summed it up perfectly.

Rejecting one option and choosing another for the best of reasons DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A VETO.

Would you seriously contend that by choosing Kylie, I was vetoing Mylene?

If you/DCAl/Poots have any EVIDENCE that the GAA are lying, and have a veto against Belfst, then bring it to the table.

The GAA said they did not want a Belfast site, knowing that all three sports had to be on board. I don't see how anybody (even you) can say that is not exercising a veto.

p.s. If you genuinely think differently you should contact DCAL, I'm sure they'd be delighted to hear that Poots has been lying to committees.

When did they say

they did not want a Belfast site

?

On my computer they made clear that they chose the Maze on geographic & associated economic grounds.

On my computer they went out of there way to stress that their decision was not part of any anti-Belfast agenda.

Time to take the OWC interface out of your modem and read the GAA statement me thinks.

Still waiting for proof of any veto..........


Here, hopefully your OWC filters let these statements from Danny Murphy thru':

"He insisted that the Ulster Council had simply expressed its preference for the Maze  site without ever taking a negative position on a city-based stadium."

"We chose the Maze/Long Kesh site because we believe it represented the best location.
We did not take a decision against a Belfast site. We took a pro-active view on behalf of the Council's need for a stadium and its location.'

[SammyG]

When did they say

they did not want a Belfast site

?

At the meetings with DCAL, which are minuted

Still waiting for proof of any veto..........

What word would you use?

[Main Street]

At the meetings with DCAL, which are minuted

Minuted in your brain more likely.

[SammyG]

At the meetings with DCAL, which are minuted

Minuted in your brain more likely.

You've already posted a link to one BBC report, on a DCAL committee meetin (was that just in my brain), there are other minutes on the DCAL site if you want to have a dig about.

[snatter]

When did they say

they did not want a Belfast site

?

At the meetings with DCAL, which are minuted

Still waiting for proof of any veto..........

What word would you use?

Then post them here.
Who made the claim?  Poots/ you / your OWC cronies / somebody in the NIO?
Come on....we're waiting.

Then IF somebody apart form yourself wishes to contradict the GAA's statement, let's see the proof/basis of their claim.
I think we've given up any hope of you producing any proof.

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Once more, just for the record, here's the GAA statements.
You never know osmosis might mean that the facts slowy filter through the OWC thought block:

"He insisted that the Ulster Council had simply expressed its preference for the Maze  site without ever taking a negative position on a city-based stadium."

"We chose the Maze/Long Kesh site because we believe it represented the best location.
We did not take a decision against a Belfast site. We took a pro-active view on behalf of the Council's need for a stadium and its location.'