Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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NotedObserver

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on August 29, 2024, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on August 29, 2024, 04:34:02 PMPaul Devlin in?
Surely not?

Just going by what Jerome above is posting. My thoughts is was orourkes if he wants it

Jim Bob

Deadline for club nominations is next Tuesday 9am

Jerome

Quote from: NotedObserver on August 29, 2024, 04:34:02 PMPaul Devlin in?

Applications are valid until Tuesday.
Paul Devlin has submitted his interest.
For over 20 years now Tyrone have had a policy where suggessful underage county managers graduate to the senior role.

Deviating from that policy to employ at outside man, who has no more love for Tyrone than he would for Derry, Kerry or anyone else, at a ransom of money doesn't seem likely and I don't think that it would sit right with any true Gael to disrepect our own people that way, what message would that be from the county board to future underage management teams.

Aaron Boone

Will PD be able to handle the press/the constant exposure?

It's a full-time gig really.

redzone

Think the first message needs sent is if your lucky enough to be involved with Tyrone underage then your not guaranteed the senior job. Not that it needs saying other than to somebody that's thick. Will he need to be nominated by a club.
County board will know full well what he's like but if a few others aren't interested then it could be his

Truthsayer

I think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Jerome on August 29, 2024, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on August 29, 2024, 04:34:02 PMPaul Devlin in?

Applications are valid until Tuesday.
Paul Devlin has submitted his interest.
For over 20 years now Tyrone have had a policy where suggessful underage county managers graduate to the senior role.

Deviating from that policy to employ at outside man, who has no more love for Tyrone than he would for Derry, Kerry or anyone else, at a ransom of money doesn't seem likely and I don't think that it would sit right with any true Gael to disrepect our own people that way, what message would that be from the county board to future underage management teams.

His record underage is questionable at best. Two All Irelands yes but had incredible talent in those teams. Could be argued should be three in a row. The defence of the title in 2023 will raise a lot of questions and is eerily similar to Tyrone seniors since the All Ireland win.
If its a choice between O'Rourke and Devlin, we should be looking at O'Rourke. Can't be overlooking a manager of that calibre.

Jim Bob

So the two he won were down to the players and the one he lost was down to him ???

It's like the man who argued with me that Raymond Munroe was not the msn to replace Harte around 2012 because he "almost cost us 2 minor All Irelands in 08 and 2010"

Jerome

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 29, 2024, 10:10:29 PMI think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

tyrone08

Quote from: Jerome on August 29, 2024, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 29, 2024, 10:10:29 PMI think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

Truthsayer

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Quote from: tyrone08 on August 29, 2024, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: Jerome on August 29, 2024, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 29, 2024, 10:10:29 PMI think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?
100% 👍  or recent hurling managers?

Jerome

Quote from: tyrone08 on August 29, 2024, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: Jerome on August 29, 2024, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 29, 2024, 10:10:29 PMI think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

Mickey brought plenty of financial strain through the development of facilities, team related expenses such as bonding, subsistence, medical and testing but he was 100% not getting any payment directly for coaching Tyrone senior team at the cost of the county. Whether he is getting looked after from someone outside the county board structures, as many say, we can't know for sure. An outside appointment will command a huge fee as an employee plus all of the expenses required to already run the team. Whenever we have internal people wanting the job having earned their stripes at the underage system, just like all our managers for the last 20 years, then I think there is no need to look elsewhere, there lies the difference with the hurling appointment.

If the decision makers do decide to go down the route of rejecting the appointment of PD and his team in favour of bringing in an employee then in my opinion, many will disagree I'm sure,  it is mud in the face of every volunteer within the game and totally against the ethos of the GAA.

Every defeat and poor performance over the years was ridiculed by every supporter, part and parcel, imagine the uproar if a paid professional can't get it right year 1 you only have to look at Derry this year- won a national league but when it fell to pieces in the championship the P45 written, an appointment that left a sour taste in the county. We do the same having scorned our own in the process then shame on us.