Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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Mickey Harte.

[Fuzzman]

Not the worst draw we could have got but Galway away on the first day out will be tough should they beat Sligo as expected.
Would prefer Armagh over Derry in our second match which I presume will be in Omagh.
Armagh have improved a lot since we beat them in the league and could give us our fill of it again.

Hard to know where this Tyrone team are coming into the new format. Most of us thinking Canavan and Dazzler looking good but the half forwards and half backs really need to get back their hunger and work rate.
We seemed to have moved away from our solid defensive style and be a lot more open, conceding easy scores but also scoring a lot ourselves. Much easier on the eye and entertaining to watch for sure but I wonder is this our new plan or are we just not showing our hand too early.

For me getting to a semi final would be a good year but based on last year and the league so far I'd say we're behind Galway, Mayo, Derry and Armagh

[rrhf]

I think to be honest its a very tough draw. If Galway get past Sligo then its a trip to a county that we always struggle in and against. Id have much rather played Kerry in Killarney.  If we get no points there then its a must win against Derry or Armagh and most likely Armagh to be fair. They beat us twice last year, have more of a forward ethos than in the league and will relish the opportunity to play Tyrone again.  Its at best a 50 50 chance for Tyrone.  and that is assuming Armagh take nothing off Galway which could build up to being the grudge game of the decade. Westmeath are a bit of an unknown quantity but are there on merit and could take points from either Tyrone or Armagh, but less likely from their maroon cousins.  I just think that Tyrone will really struggle in that group. I also think Derry are real contenders for Sam, they can handle everyone in their group and really seem to like each other at the moment. 

[bogball88]

Dont think its a 50/50 chance of getting out of the group and the second game is definitely not a must win. Only 1 team is eliminated. The only must win game to ensure you get out of the group and enter the knockout stages is the final one v Westmeath at a neutral venue

[An Watcher]

Probably the most important one is the second game.  Win that and we're almost guaranteed to get second.  Third placed teams will be facing the likes of mayo, roscommon or monaghan.  Second placed teams will be facing the likes of clare, louth or kildare.  If we get anything from the first game then fantastic

[Redhand Santa]

Definitely wouldn't want to finish third. Probably end up getting drawn away to Kerry/Mayo and even if somehow won that then you'd be looking at playing a top seed the following week.

To be honest if you lose to both Galway and a team who lose an ulster final then the chances are the season isn't going anywhere anyway. If you are serious about competing for All Ireland's you need to be heading to Galway and giving a good account of yourself and beating Armagh/Derry at home.

[NotedObserver]

What way will Tyrone go? Try and raise the form and confidence of a few players or put the likes of Oguz or mcglennan in?

[ClubScene13]

That Monaghan loss does not look great in the cold light of day after what Derry done to them. Should qualify ok with Westmeath in the group but the squad really needs to build momentum over those 3 games. Three good performances and being able to say we played rightly there could be as important as what the final scorelines say.

[Fuzzman]

I've been watching a lot of old games on Youtube and was thinking how little we have really used the tactic of high ball into the box.
If you look how often a high ball kicked in (either on purpose or especially dropped short) often leads to a goal.

With big McGleenan now on the panel surely this is worth a proper try as a tactic and not just do what a lot of teams do and play a big man in there but rarely hit it in properly. Even if he doesn't catch it for the mark, he can punch it over or create space for the corner forwards.

I know it sounds almost too obvious but how often have we really used this tactic. Goals win matches and often goal chances are hard to come by with yer mass defences these days.
in the 2018 AI final we put big Colm in there for 15 mins near the end but didnt kick that many balls into him. The one we did we got a penalty out of it.

I'd say Dazza and Canavan would enjoy having a big man causing havoc in there.

[inroundthesquare]

Should be trying a few against Galway for sure as their weakness is the keeper position and lack of height in their full back line

[tyrone08]

I've been watching a lot of old games on Youtube and was thinking how little we have really used the tactic of high ball into the box.
If you look how often a high ball kicked in (either on purpose or especially dropped short) often leads to a goal.

With big McGleenan now on the panel surely this is worth a proper try as a tactic and not just do what a lot of teams do and play a big man in there but rarely hit it in properly. Even if he doesn't catch it for the mark, he can punch it over or create space for the corner forwards.

I know it sounds almost too obvious but how often have we really used this tactic. Goals win matches and often goal chances are hard to come by with yer mass defences these days.
in the 2018 AI final we put big Colm in there for 15 mins near the end but didnt kick that many balls into him. The one we did we got a penalty out of it.

I'd say Dazza and Canavan would enjoy having a big man causing havoc in there.

Fully agree. Think Colm won us 1-1 that time in 2018.eith Kennedy and con we should be putting in 6 or 8 high balls every game.

[An Watcher]

Is that not a tactic we've been trying to use this year.  Kennedy got the penalty v monaghan in yhe league and big Kilpatrick is in there regularly enough

[NotedObserver]

Match ups against Galway is going to be v difficult as all their forwards need marked alonf with half back line.
Prob best if you can put them on the back foot but don't think Tyrone have the half backs to do this

[Stan]

I'm surprised at the silence on the entire forum about the Nicola Gallagher story this week? I'm pretty sure that everyone has been kept well up to speed on what has been going on with the Derry Manager.******
(Know now that the conversation has been had over on the Armagh Derry page.)

The truth might be somewhere in the middle of it all but I'm yet to hear one good character reference for him - either from players, friends, pundits or people that have known him from his time in Fermanagh and Donegal...as a footballer or as a recruitment professional

DV is a scourge in this country - GAA men are venerated. DJ Carey recently and a load of other before him. They are not role models nor heroes.

They are flawed like us all.

Difficult position for the GAA - locally and nationally and yet again their comments are late and very tame - legal reasons as good a defence as they will need.

There should be an unequivocal position on domestic abuse from Dublin, Provincial, county and club level.

These victims are our daughters, sisters, friends, mothers, aunts - neighbours. Camogs, ladies footballers. whatever

There shouldn't be any hiding place for this kind of behaviour. period.

Innocent until proven guilty? A counter press release suggests that the PSNI / PPS couldn't pursue the case up here but doesn't cover Nicola's allegations about incidents in Clones, Sligo and Donegal.

That would be a Garda issue. Interesting to hear their views on this.

In truth, I'm less concerned about the Derry Manager.

Nicola has been a victim it would seem for 24 years - and I would be more concerned that she now gets the support, counselling and care that has been absent. She poured her heart out on Facebook - how desperate must things be for someone to resort to that?

I know how I would feel as a Tyrone fan if the accusations had been levelled at our manager...past, present or future.

Investigation should begin immediately.

In my opinion Rory Gallagher needs to not be viisble this sunday afternoon. Let him not be the centre of attention at one of our sports greatest fixtures - give him the time he needs to fully defend his reputation, sue for slander or whatever he is being advised to do.

Our code has been taken into disrepute and either the Ulster council or Dublin needs to sort that out before Sunday.

[tyroneStatto]

It has and is being discussed at length on the Armagh v Derry Ulster Final thread.