Election 2011 Offical Thread.

[Main Street]

A bank guarantee is not sovereign debt.

McWilliams reasoning was sound enough in 2008 from his capitalist perspective, for a country with no sovereign control over its own currency.
McWilliams oct 19 2008
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2008/10/19/bank-guarantee-will-mean-survival-of-the-weakest

BANK GUARANTEE WILL MEAN SURVIVAL OF THE WEAKEST
In arguing for the guarantee, this column understood that it would be part of a process which would lead to a better banking system in the years ahead. Underpinning such confidence was the expectation that the government would act in the national interest, rather than in the banks' interest.

In addition, the working assumption was that 'bad' banks would not be rewarded for their 'bad' behaviour. However, now that the details of the guarantee have been published, we see a clause which has the potential to insulate those banks which behaved most recklessly and lumber those banks which are stronger with the sins of the others.

[Croí na hÉireann]

Labour 10
Sinners 8
FG 0
GP 0
FF -8

The wife is very compatible with FF apparently, I'll get a few days out of that one.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Labour 15
SF 15
Greens 1
FF -8
FG -9

Not really that surprised to be honest.

[muppet]

No comment needed.

http://www.politics.ie/political-humour/152560-fianna-fail-anarchist-party.html

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Do you have anything to add to last nights discussion on the "European Force"?

I gave my opinion.

mayo you know i value your opinion but you dodged both mine and diablo questions about the involvement of irish troops in the european force and you are also side stepping the fact that at the time of lisbon 1 and 2 all of the pro lisbon parties assured the isih people that a yes would not lead to our participation in this 'farce'. the announcment of this now is a major electorial boob so you can expect gerry and co to pick up on it. please answer

I would hope anyone who suspects who I am will keep it to themselves, especially with what I am about to say, which will make it obvious for some. I am a raving Republican in both meanings of the word, the International and the Nordie meaning. I want a United Ireland, but with the will of all the Irish people, Green, Orange and all in between. I am an Nationalist, because I believe in the greatness of the Irish nation, I (seperatly) believe in the greatness of the Irish Republic. But this is how I will probably give myslelf away, I am a frontline worker in the British public service, yet I believe that policies of the right are better. I am an Nurse. I am a pacifist, but I WILL INLIST in the Irish Army as a Nurse if they are called into European Rapid Reaction Force Operations. I will die for Ireland and Europe but I will kill for neither.

Micheal Collins is my hero. I believe Fine Gael speak the most sense, I believe Fine Gael are the only true Republicans in Ireland, I believe we are good not bad nationalists, I believe we reach out to our Unionists brothers more than anyone else to unite the Irish people in an Irish nation, I believe Fine Gael is the solution to Fianna Fail corruption, I believe in Enda and Fine Gael. 

So you have recruit number 1. I will die for Ireland, I will die for Europe, but I will kill for no man, woman, nation or ideal.

[Rouge_Diablo]

I would hope anyone who suspects who I am will keep it to themselves, especially with what I am about to say, which will make it obvious for some. I am a raving Republican in both meanings of the word, the International and the Nordie meaning. I want a United Ireland, but with the will of all the Irish people, Green, Orange and all in between. I am an Nationalist, because I believe in the greatness of the Irish nation, I (seperatly) believe in the greatness of the Irish Republic. But this is how I will probably give myslelf away, I am a frontline worker in the British public service, yet I believe that policies of the right are better. I am an Nurse. I am a pacifist, but I WILL INLIST in the Irish Army as a Nurse if they are called into European Rapid Reaction Force Operations. I will die for Ireland and Europe but I will kill for neither.

Micheal Collins is my hero. I believe Fine Gael speak the most sense, I believe Fine Gael are the only true Republicans in Ireland, I believe we are good not bad nationalists, I believe we reach out to our Unionists brothers more than anyone else to unite the Irish people in an Irish nation, I believe Fine Gael is the solution to Fianna Fail corruption, I believe in Enda and Fine Gael. 

So you have recruit number 1. I will die for Ireland, I will die for Europe, but I will kill for no man, woman, nation or ideal.

Well thats wondefully poetic and numerous other things too, however none of the above explains how "You" as in FG will find the rest of recruits. Are we looking at national service? And there is still no answers as to which countries troops gets sent in first, maybe its the ones with the biggest debt- call it a debt reduction service?

The country are looking for something real , and quite frankly your heart clutching speech is a million miles away from that.  How real are the rest of FG (or indeed anyones) policies?

[stephenite]

Talk about a European strike force as an election issue is scare-mongering rubbish intended to deflect attention away from SF and real issues.
But answer the question about who'd be sent in first, 'twould be the Nordies of course, sure what free stater would have any experience with guns

[Rouge_Diablo]

Talk about a European strike force as an election issue is scare-mongering rubbish intended to deflect attention away from SF and real issues.
But answer the question about who'd be sent in first, 'twould be the Nordies of course, sure what free stater would have any experience with guns

Is that going to be the stock answer whenever anyone questions a FG policy?

[Maguire01]

No comment needed.

http://www.politics.ie/political-humour/152560-fianna-fail-anarchist-party.html

other than '6 hours too late'
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17925.msg919087#msg919087

[Hound]

FG 16
FF 13
Green 13
SF -4
Lab -5

[An Gaeilgoir]

http://www.votomatic.ie/Test.aspx
G'wan, give it a go!

My result:
You are a hardcore Labour Party supporter.

Fine Gael 12
Labour 10
Greens 7
Fianna Fáil -2
Sein Fein -4

As I expected I am a Social Democrat with some Conservative leanings.

You are a hardcore FG supporter.

[Rouge_Diablo]

You are a hardcore FG supporter.

but thats what mammy and daddy did.....

[Declan]

Had an interesting chat with an independent candidate last night. He's getting a good response on the doorsteps he said as people are fed up with the main parties.
In what was traditionally  2 FF/FG area - Now Meath East - The consistent message he's getting is that no one wants to vote FF and this down from a vote of 10K plus for Mary Wallace in 2007. Also as he said himself a surprising number of people giving SF no.1s. If that is replicated across the country we could have a FG led minority gov with a strong SF/ULA led number of "left wing" candidates in oppostion   

[stephenite]

Question away Rouge but FFS keep it relevant. You want to hammer the blue shirts on real policies like the bail out, health or education that's great but if you're going to come up with "what if" scenarios expect than I'll question it and your motivations

[Rouge_Diablo]

Question away Rouge but FFS keep it relevant. You want to hammer the blue shirts on real policies like the bail out, health or education that's great but if you're going to come up with "what if" scenarios expect than I'll question it and your motivations

I didnt create that particular topic, and its on the thread so its relevant. I (and others ) chose to question it. There are plenty of other topics to work on too!
As for my motivations on that particular topic, I already stated it on here already- my son, and how the potential of conscription/national service will impact on his life.