Election 2011 Offical Thread.

[Tubberman]

You are a hardcore FG supporter.

but thats what mammy and daddy did.....

They are set to gain almost 30 seats in this election (and about 50 from 2002 election), so it certainly not a case of people voting as their parents did.

[Rouge_Diablo]

They are set to gain almost 30 seats in this election (and about 50 from 2002 election), so it certainly not a case of people voting as their parents did.

To clarify, my post was in relations to MGHU result in the test compared to their public preference, as opposed to a general observation.

[lawnseed]

Do you have anything to add to last nights discussion on the "European Force"?

I gave my opinion.

mayo you know i value your opinion but you dodged both mine and diablo questions about the involvement of irish troops in the european force and you are also side stepping the fact that at the time of lisbon 1 and 2 all of the pro lisbon parties assured the isih people that a yes would not lead to our participation in this 'farce'. the announcment of this now is a major electorial boob so you can expect gerry and co to pick up on it. please answer

I would hope anyone who suspects who I am will keep it to themselves, especially with what I am about to say, which will make it obvious for some. I am a raving Republican in both meanings of the word, the International and the Nordie meaning. I want a United Ireland, but with the will of all the Irish people, Green, Orange and all in between. I am an Nationalist, because I believe in the greatness of the Irish nation, I (seperatly) believe in the greatness of the Irish Republic. But this is how I will probably give myslelf away, I am a frontline worker in the British public service, yet I believe that policies of the right are better. I am an Nurse. I am a pacifist, but I WILL INLIST in the Irish Army as a Nurse if they are called into European Rapid Reaction Force Operations. I will die for Ireland and Europe but I will kill for neither.

Micheal Collins is my hero. I believe Fine Gael speak the most sense, I believe Fine Gael are the only true Republicans in Ireland, I believe we are good not bad nationalists, I believe we reach out to our Unionists brothers more than anyone else to unite the Irish people in an Irish nation, I believe Fine Gael is the solution to Fianna Fail corruption, I believe in Enda and Fine Gael. 

So you have recruit number 1. I will die for Ireland, I will die for Europe, but I will kill for no man, woman, nation or ideal.

so you'll be firing blanks!!!

[Nally Stand]

Talk about a European strike force as an election issue is scare-mongering rubbish intended to deflect attention away from SF and real issues.But answer the question about who'd be sent in first, 'twould be the Nordies of course, sure what free stater would have any experience with guns

You're right. There are more important things to be worried about in this climate than the possibility of Irish men and women being sent into action in a European Strike Action Force.
The 26 counties are in financial meltdown so we really should all be talking about the issue which FF and the papers are currently trying to make the main talking point of this election....

WAS GERRY ADAMS EVER IN THE IRA??

[Poc me]

Mayo God Help Us...

'FG are the only true republican party...'

Statement of the week.

Now whether you see the term in the international sense or the 'nordie' sense as you said it kinda gets blown out of the water by the triumphal visit of her majesty in the near future that has been completely endorsed by the one and only Enda Kenny. In fact he said the visit was overdue.

Now we'll deal with the 'Nordie' point first and the fact that a Queen of our former oppressors should not be invited to our country until she gives it all back etc etc. Is it sheer coincidence that she'd be coming over in the midst of a serious crisis maybe to give the condescending 'there there' pat on the back...'we told you that you couldn't manage it without us'...then there is the commemoration of the visit of the Famine Quene to Kerry...i'll not say any more on that.

THe international viewpoint then:
What republic should give over all her time and money in security (especially when it is struggling financially) to a monarch of another country. It is completely against the ideologies of a republic. A true republican (in the international sense of the word) would not want a monarch from any other country never mind England. They are people who do F**k all and get every privilege that society has to offer simply because they are from a certain family...they should be seen for what they are...a work shy, in-bred shower.

[Hound]

Had an interesting chat with an independent candidate last night. He's getting a good response on the doorsteps he said as people are fed up with the main parties.
In what was traditionally  2 FF/FG area - Now Meath East - The consistent message he's getting is that no one wants to vote FF and this down from a vote of 10K plus for Mary Wallace in 2007. Also as he said himself a surprising number of people giving SF no.1s. If that is replicated across the country we could have a FG led minority gov with a strong SF/ULA led number of "left wing" candidates in oppostion

Don't think the polls are signifying that Declan?

Though the poll on boards.ie is (see below). Depends on who you ask I suppose!

Boards.ie current prediction:

FG 45
Lab 40
SF 19
Ind 16
Greens 4
ULA 4
FF 3     (Aylward, Martin, Kirk)

This does not include the "results" for 10 constituencies covering 35 seats, where they deem they have not yet received enough votes.

[lawnseed]

nothings going to change nally.. gerry should tell them to shove it.. they just cant see where its going. their blinded by greed and self image.. i pity them. they talk the talk but thats where it ends.. bob geldof called it banana republic, sceptic isle.. so sad

[An Gaeilgoir]

nothings going to change nally.. gerry should tell them to shove it.. they just cant see where its going. their blinded by greed and self image.. i pity them. they talk the talk but thats where it ends.. bob geldof called it banana republic, sceptic isle.. so sad

If only Britian ruled us, then we could blame them for everything, yet take all their monies and in the main work in their public service.

[Nally Stand]

nothings going to change nally.. gerry should tell them to shove it.. they just cant see where its going. their blinded by greed and self image.. i pity them. they talk the talk but thats where it ends.. bob geldof called it banana republic, sceptic isle.. so sad

If only Britian ruled us, then we could blame them for everything, yet take all their monies and in the main work in their public service.

Sure Germany rules ye now

[muppet]

Mayo God Help Us...

'FG are the only true republican party...'

Statement of the week.

Now whether you see the term in the international sense or the 'nordie' sense as you said it kinda gets blown out of the water by the triumphal visit of her majesty in the near future that has been completely endorsed by the one and only Enda Kenny. In fact he said the visit was overdue.

Now we'll deal with the 'Nordie' point first and the fact that a Queen of our former oppressors should not be invited to our country until she gives it all back etc etc. Is it sheer coincidence that she'd be coming over in the midst of a serious crisis maybe to give the condescending 'there there' pat on the back...'we told you that you couldn't manage it without us'...then there is the commemoration of the visit of the Famine Quene to Kerry...i'll not say any more on that.

THe international viewpoint then:
What republic should give over all her time and money in security (especially when it is struggling financially) to a monarch of another country. It is completely against the ideologies of a republic. A true republican (in the international sense of the word) would not want a monarch from any other country never mind England. They are people who do F**k all and get every privilege that society has to offer simply because they are from a certain family...they should be seen for what they are...a work shy, in-bred shower.

We need a revolution in Ireland but it won't happen because all Irish revolutions to date have been driven by the Republicans who are aligned to the extreme left. The rest won't join them and the rest don't have anyone to rally around.

Even just reading this website it can be seen that Republicanism Irish style seems inextricably tied to extreme left thinking. That is a major handicap to achieving any real change in the South.

[Poc me]

Muppet I hardly think John Mitchell could be aligned to the extreme left or indeed any of the leaders in the 18th/19th century. egalitarians yes, but hardly communists. The 19th century rebellions were driven by Nationalism as the core objective but nationalism tends to be associated with right wing politics in other parts of the world. I do agree though that revolutionary politics in Ireland is aligned to the left as is most revolutionary politics. The problems in the past were not class struggles, they were national struggles against an oppressor. The Irish people are conservative at heart, a trait replicated in other largely agrarian societies (I appreciate that Ireland is becoming less agrarian over the past 30 years).

The last 'revolution' was 1917-1921 and the outcome was a very clerical, conservative state that was cemented in the Constituion (with the privileged position of the CHurch). Not the traits of a left wing revolution.

[An Gaeilgoir]

nothings going to change nally.. gerry should tell them to shove it.. they just cant see where its going. their blinded by greed and self image.. i pity them. they talk the talk but thats where it ends.. bob geldof called it banana republic, sceptic isle.. so sad

If only Britian ruled us, then we could blame them for everything, yet take all their monies and in the main work in their public service.

Sure Germany rules ye now

Great, we can blame them.

[Declan]

Don't think the polls are signifying that Declan?

I think  a lot will depend on the how the last seats pan out in the constituencies myself.

[muppet]

Muppet I hardly think John Mitchell could be aligned to the extreme left or indeed any of the leaders in the 18th/19th century. egalitarians yes, but hardly communists. The 19th century rebellions were driven by Nationalism as the core objective but nationalism tends to be associated with right wing politics in other parts of the world. I do agree though that revolutionary politics in Ireland is aligned to the left as is most revolutionary politics. The problems in the past were not class struggles, they were national struggles against an oppressor. The Irish people are conservative at heart, a trait replicated in other largely agrarian societies (I appreciate that Ireland is becoming less agrarian over the past 30 years).

The last 'revolution' was 1917-1921 and the outcome was a very clerical, conservative state that was cemented in the Constituion (with the privileged position of the CHurch). Not the traits of a left wing revolution.

The outcome is one thing. 1916 was the trigger and those leaders weren't hiding their left leanings.

The question is today can you be a Republican and on the right? Because it certainly doesn't look like it.

[Nally Stand]

A Republican and on the right? I would say it is possible in the simplest definition of "Republican", but "Irish Republicanism" has developed into a political ideology in it's own right and is grounded in the left.