Antrim Hurling

[Saffrongael]

U-20s beat by Meath 

[Deerstalker]

That won't do McShane much good in going for the senior job next year, presumably.

[Milltown Row2]

That won't do McShane much good in going for the senior job next year, presumably.

Where you at the match?

[MalluskMan]

Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

[Milltown Row2]

Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Hopefully you could step in and bring us back to a better level

[MalluskMan]

Make that make sense for us?? Having an opinion and commenting on what was witnessed at the weekend means stepping into a job?? Give your head a wobble. The problems start at the top. Jobs for the boys, jobs for mates, wouldn't fit in in those circles. Maybe you could step in, youre well versed

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Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Hopefully you could step in and bring us back to a better level

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Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Hopefully you could step in and bring us back to a better level
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[Saffrongael]

Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Yeah another few games in a meaningless Leinster B competition, closer to C really

[Milltown Row2]

So two things, he was poor at slaughtneil and for Antrim?

He won a few Ulster championships, and Antrim unfortunately are not as good as we think they should be, based on our recent results at senior and many years at juvenile level we are where we are. You can't pull a rabbit out of a hat when they are 20 years of age.

That work needs done at under 12 right through


So you were at the match and give your opinion on the him, not how the players who stepped out onto the pitch played

You said the players were bullied and then complained he threatened players, and saying it's fact doesn't mean it's fact, you know that?

As for me stepping in, no, but you seem more well versed than I do, as I said, get in there. It's not job for the boys, or a closed shop, plenty managers over the years wouldn't fit that stereotype at juvenile level or under 20's

[Saffrongael]

So two things, he was poor at slaughtneil and for Antrim?

He won a few Ulster championships, and Antrim unfortunately are not as good as we think they should be, based on our recent results at senior and many years at juvenile level we are where we are. You can't pull a rabbit out of a hat when they are 20 years of age.

That work needs done at under 12 right through


So you were at the match and give your opinion on the him, not how the players who stepped out onto the pitch played

You said the players were bullied and then complained he threatened players, and saying it's fact doesn't mean it's fact, you know that?

As for me stepping in, no, but you seem more well versed than I do, as I said, get in there. It's not job for the boys, or a closed shop, plenty managers over the years wouldn't fit that stereotype at juvenile level or under 20's

Beating Meath is pulling a rabbit out of the hat ?

[marty34]

Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Your son on bench?

I don't think people should be surprised if Meath beat Antrim at that level. In reality it's a Leinster U20B competition?

Are the Dublin's, Kilkenny's and Wexfords not in another seperate higher level competition? Antrim would be miles off that anyway.

[Milltown Row2]

So two things, he was poor at slaughtneil and for Antrim?

He won a few Ulster championships, and Antrim unfortunately are not as good as we think they should be, based on our recent results at senior and many years at juvenile level we are where we are. You can't pull a rabbit out of a hat when they are 20 years of age.

That work needs done at under 12 right through


So you were at the match and give your opinion on the him, not how the players who stepped out onto the pitch played

You said the players were bullied and then complained he threatened players, and saying it's fact doesn't mean it's fact, you know that?

As for me stepping in, no, but you seem more well versed than I do, as I said, get in there. It's not job for the boys, or a closed shop, plenty managers over the years wouldn't fit that stereotype at juvenile level or under 20's

Beating Meath is pulling a rabbit out of the hat ?

We can't beat Down at senior so expectations are not high to be fair, which recent results have given you hope that we are a top team at this level? 

[Saffrongael]

So two things, he was poor at slaughtneil and for Antrim?

He won a few Ulster championships, and Antrim unfortunately are not as good as we think they should be, based on our recent results at senior and many years at juvenile level we are where we are. You can't pull a rabbit out of a hat when they are 20 years of age.

That work needs done at under 12 right through


So you were at the match and give your opinion on the him, not how the players who stepped out onto the pitch played

You said the players were bullied and then complained he threatened players, and saying it's fact doesn't mean it's fact, you know that?

As for me stepping in, no, but you seem more well versed than I do, as I said, get in there. It's not job for the boys, or a closed shop, plenty managers over the years wouldn't fit that stereotype at juvenile level or under 20's

Beating Meath is pulling a rabbit out of the hat ?

We can't beat Down at senior so expectations are not high to be fair, which recent results have given you hope that we are a top team at this level? 

Well we pushed Dublin (who got to the Leinster final)close in the Leinster championship last year, and this team was thought to be stronger this year.

Im not talking winning all Irelands, I'm talking beating Meath ffs. And as for beating Down at senior level, this U20 team beat them by 20 pts a few weeks back

[Saffrongael]

Antrim are at an all time low. Seniors are rudderless with Davy at the helm. What McManus is saying about a harmonious setup is absolutely far from the truth: he has his Antrim cap on and isn't going to be seen publicly to ridicule the set up and unsteady the ship further.
Was at the u20 game in Meath. Antrim bullied, missing a few key players didn't help. The set up was wrong, personnel moved all over the place, no cohesion. Mc Shane went with 'big men' last year it didn't work, went the same again this year, has regressed further; some of the lads are not at the level and that's on the manager, who, quite obviously, has many favourites. Tactically limited at Slaughtneil, and looks like more of the same with u20s. And here's a kicker for ye, has threatened players that if they don't lay in the Leinster b competition, he will make sure they never hurl for Antrim again at any level. And that's an absolute fact. Madness.

Your son on bench?

I don't think people should be surprised if Meath beat Antrim at that level. In reality it's a Leinster U20B competition?

Are the Dublin's, Kilkenny's and Wexfords not in another seperate higher level competition? Antrim would be miles off that anyway.

It's not separate, if they had beaten Meath and then say Carlow for example you go in with the "A" teams. It's now a B competition because we lost and that route is now gone to the A

[NAG1]

Just on the weekend, seniors I expected to come under pressure against Down there was no great outcome there for Antrim and the way the confidence is in the squad they were there for the taking.

Hopefully the week in Portugal will lift their spirits 

U20s was probably bit of a different story in that they should have been coming into it reasonably confident. I think it was tactically that they let themselves down more so. Playing one of their best players so deep in the second half when they were chasing the game and insisting on playing short puck outs out from the back costing them serious scores at crucial times with the turn overs.

[MalluskMan]

At no point did I say he was poor, tactically limited I believe was my quote. And I stand by it. Slaughtneil would have won Derry with Stevie wonder in charge; they should have won more ulsters: one Ulster final his 'tactic' was to get his best player to wrestle with Neil mc manus for an hour. You can pick the bones of that as well if ye want.

And yes,I left the players alone. Purposely. As I was talking about the poor set up and poor selection. That's not on the players. Same tactics as last year that didn't work. That's on the manager. Feel free to contact any one of the 30 panellists, they were his only words after the game before he hopped in his car and stormed up the road.

And start at u12?? Have we not got development squads?? Gaelfast?? Think you're helping my argument. If ye run about in an Antrim fibrus top you'd get a gig with the county. And it can be backed up with recent minor managers. St Paul's man had seven St Paul's players on panel, only three of them still hurl and are absolutely nowhere near an u20 or senior squad. We also had a Randalstown man in charge two seasons ago, 4 Randalstown players on the squad, not one of them start regularly for their club. I speak with fact!!

So two things, he was poor at slaughtneil and for Antrim?

He won a few Ulster championships, and Antrim unfortunately are not as good as we think they should be, based on our recent results at senior and many years at juvenile level we are where we are. You can't pull a rabbit out of a hat when they are 20 years of age.

That work needs done at under 12 right through


So you were at the match and give your opinion on the him, not how the players who stepped out onto the pitch played

You said the players were bullied and then complained he threatened players, and saying it's fact doesn't mean it's fact, you know that?

As for me stepping in, no, but you seem more well versed than I do, as I said, get in there. It's not job for the boys, or a closed shop, plenty managers over the years wouldn't fit that stereotype at juvenile level or under 20's