The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[lynchbhoy]

Well the hairdryer seems to work for Fergie still.

Realistically its not who Celtic want as manager but who is willing to take the job. Hughes will jump at the first English premiership job that comes his way, Lambert may or may not fancy moving to Glasgow at this stage, I can't see any of the European big hitters being interested, so it  looks like your left with Lennon Versus the likes of Lambert, and if Lennon proves himself between now and the end of the season he deserves at least a one year rolling contract.

I dont think fergie uses the hairdryer treatment any more...
obv I dont know for def, but it seems like he doesnt (well not for his own players) and he has learned not to and how to treat the modern day player.

as for Lennon - while I'd love to see him do well, for him and for Celtic - its a very long shot and with players getting back from inj, he has a strong squad to now at last pick from, but unless he gets serious help from MON in the summer, he hasnt the exp.

Other rumours abound that MON is unhappy at villa and that he could be in for a 'shock' return to Celtic. While I dont believe these bullsiht rumours, I would love them to be true.

[T Fearon]

if O'Neill's gripe is lack of finance at Villa you can be sure he will not be back at Celtic any time soon. His ambition is to compete and win Champions League so that will also rule him out. A move to a bigger EPL Club is what he's after and he's probably touting for a job at Anfield or Old Tafford even(if Man Ure fauil to overcome Bayern, Fergie's future may be the subject of speculation)

Realistically, a Hiddink type manager isn't required to win the SPL (Celtic's main and arguably only priority) so if Lennon steadies the ship, and particularly wins the Scottish Cup and final Old Firm game, then he deserves a crack at it next season, rather than gamble with someone like Mowbray again, the only realistic marketplace Celtic are currently in.

[mountainboii]

Mark hughes also doesnt have enough exp imo.

After 5 years in international football and 6 in the Premier League?

[Main Street]

Mark Hughes also doesnt have enough exp imo. Though he has more exp than Lennon.

I thought you gave up drink for lent
You are talking about Mark Hughes manager for 10+ years
and saying in his favour that he has more experience than Lennon, who has 1 week at the helm

[Hedley Lamarr]

There's more chance of Celtic getting Dixie Robinson than Mark Hughes
Hail Hail indeed.....more like Hail Mary

[Club Rossa]

That might not be such a bad thing as Dixie is 'celtic minded'

[T Fearon]

Dixie "proudly" waved the Union flag from the back of a lorry whilst celebrating Portadown's first ever Irish League title win way back in 1989, with his team mates

[lynchbhoy]

Mark Hughes also doesnt have enough exp imo. Though he has more exp than Lennon.

I thought you gave up drink for lent
You are talking about Mark Hughes manager for 10+ years
and saying in his favour that he has more experience than Lennon, who has 1 week at the helm

AFS and MS
yes, 10 years but with wales, blackburn and man city
he might be a great man and knows how to lead underdogs, but the shoe is on the other foot when in spl and with Celtic - and he didnt cover himself in glory when in charge of cash rich Man city when there was the sense of expectation !
He prob does have some good exp in buying cheaper end players.

St MON likes money, but might not necessarily come back for the cash or be put off just because Celtic dont have any (though I'd say there would be a good bit to spend if he requested).
Would also be a big player if Celtic thought the time was right to enter into the english leagues, a push from such a respected man might be a huge help (along with the demands of ESPN/sky)

[Main Street]

Well Wales means european competitive experience of some sort
I do realise that up to very recent years, Blackburn and Man City were the type of epl clubs that Celtic could chew up, spit out and pee on for good measure, in Europe competition without working up a sweat.
But Hughes has a track record (proven at least to a functional degree) of the type of safe manager who Celtic may well be considering as compared to a gamble on the unproven sorts like Lambert.
I suspect if Celtic don't go for Hughes now, then they will take their time over the  appointment.

[lynchbhoy]

Well Wales means european competitive experience of some sort
I do realise that up to very recent years, Blackburn and Man City were the type of epl clubs that Celtic could chew up, spit out and pee on for good measure, in Europe competition without working up a sweat.
But Hughes has a track record (proven at least to a functional degree) of the type of safe manager who Celtic may well be considering as compared to a gamble on the unproven sorts like Lambert.
I suspect if Celtic don't go for Hughes now, then they will take their time over the  appointment.

wouldnt disagree !

[Main Street]

You are agreeing to agree   

[Denn Forever]

Keane is available?

Keane has "resigned" (by invitation I suggest) this morning. Jim Magilton hotly tipped to return to the club as manager, according to Tractorboys website.

[the colonel]

Nigel pearson....

[Main Street]

Keane is available?

Keane has "resigned" (by invitation I suggest) this morning. Jim Magilton hotly tipped to return to the club as manager, according to Tractorboys website.

Tractorboys website are saying much more than that now, apparently Roy told Simon Clegg, Ipswich Town's chief executive, that he was a football ignorant cxnt who wore pink shirts and he didn't have to put up with that cxnt telling him how to manage a team.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

I see the Strachan obsession from certain posters continues but still no admission they were very wrong on Mowbray . Lennon has been saying he has been taking advice from MON and Strachan so nice easy scapegoat on here if it doesnt go well for him....all down to WGS.

sacking a manager in the first year doesnt give them much of a chance.
Again should not be taking in the cheaper guys like Mowbray and strachan in the first place.
While mowbray might not be in alex fergusons league, if fergie got the chop when he deserved to many moons ago (in his first couple of seasons with man u) like the celtic board have done - then man u may well be in the div 2/championship by now - where they were headed at that stage - rather than continuing to chase CL's!

Mowbrays biggest fault was that he didnt cull the (strachans) deadwood earlier in his tenure and he paid for it.

He had many faults and that certainly wasnt anywhere near his biggest one. Sacking managers in their first year certainly doesnt give them much of a chance and should only happen when that manager has truly lost the plot and is taking his club backwards with no sign of future progress. Thats the situation Celtic were in.

The comparison with Fergie at Man Utd is a particularly poor one. Celtic in 2010 and Man Utd in 1988 are in very different places. Ferguson also had a superb record at Aberdeen (far in excess of anything Mowbray had achieved pre Celtic) and was able to explain his long term plan and how it would be achieved. Poor Tony could only drone about his football philosophy. That philosophy is one of always playing great attacking football and that ever changing that when needs must, ie pragmatism, was a failure and climbdown. He pretty much admitted he would rather lose playing stylish stuff than change things to achieve a victory. Hence the "postive reasons for the negative result" quote after St.Mirren. Tony actually seemed to thik he had made a courageous call to put 6 men up front and deserved praise for it despite losing 4-0. Unless he changes that philosphy he will never be a great manager.

Its one of the strangest aspects of Mowbray's tenure that he also didnt understand the demands of the Celtic job. He actually said a few weeks ago that maybe if Celtic won a treble in 2 or 3 years time that people would look back on this season and say it was worth it. That isnt how the Old Firm work. Its fine to build a team over a period of a few years but when you only have 1 realistic competitor for the title there is no excuse, even in a rebuilding period, for falling so far behind your rival. He could have started building his own team and finished 2nd this season and still kept his job if there were signs there was progress being made towards the long term. Packing his team with loan signings and seeing his philosophy as being more important than winning showed there wasnt.