The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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GDA, i think thats the problem when buying players they are bought with a view to winning the league and no more while its great to win the league every year it comes back to my earlier point of 'wheres the ambition...'

[Dannymcfella]

GDA, i think thats the problem when buying players they are bought with a view to winning the league and no more while its great to win the league every year it comes back to my earlier point of 'wheres the ambition...'

Its next to imossible to attract the players which Celtic would want to, you just have to look at Kovac who says he has snubbed Celtic to join West Ham, try saying he done this to play in the Champions League and not just chasing £!!! Strachan called it well when he said 7 years ago Celtic had the 5th highest wages in the SPL & EPL now we can't even compete with Hull or Stoke as far as wages are concerned.

[Muzz]

I would imagine Celtic could compete a lot better if they got rid of half the players that are on big wages but are not getting a game for one reason or another...Balde for one?  A list of what everyone is paid - im sure we would all get some shocks.

[nifan]

Is Balde still there!
Remember him looking decent for a while then going to shit - one tackle on Scholes sticks in the memory

[lfdown2]

I would imagine Celtic could compete a lot better if they got rid of half the players that are on big wages but are not getting a game for one reason or another...Balde for one?  A list of what everyone is paid - im sure we would all get some shocks.

exactly, thats the point if the 30m spend by strachan had been spend on 5 players instead of 20 it would be all realative, thats exactly what im trying to say, my grievance is that there is a huge lack of ambition, celtic should now be aiming to push on past the 2nd round of champ league though that has become the acceptable level, surely with it becoming knock out after league stages it is not unreasonable to expect q-finals?!

[lynchbhoy]

Lynchboy, you would also agree that the team was in need of major overhaul when WGS tookover, as evidenced by the throwing away of the league title in the dying minutes of the final game of the previous season, and WGS didn't inherit any players of the calibre of Larsson, Moravcik etc.

The real criticism is why the team wasn't bolstered immediately after the 2003 UEFA Cup Final

My contention remains that both O'Neill and Strachan have done admirable jobs at Celtic Park. But even the current issue of NTV questions the style of football played by O'Neill post Henrik.

lost it in midfield mostly that year, and the successor was groomed and ready, but the little rat fecked off to man u
big problem was the amount of inj , and MON was guilty of being too loyal to the old guard and not giving some of the younger lads a run when needed. He made a mistake - but that didnt happen often !

buying quality players over a rake of mediocre players I think is the way to go, they all cost much the same
a couple of top notch players helping you progress inthe CL and their wages wouldnt cost that much more than a heap of shaun maloneys that will do fcuk all for the team (apart from the reserves)

He turned out to be a world beater, didn't he? A handful of promising appearances doesn't make for a great player. (remember Jamie Smith??) I'm a big fan of MON and what he achieved at CP, but Strach's record betters him. He took over an ageing squad and turned it into a championship winning side. He took the Hoops into the latter stages of European competition, where MON couldn't manage it, despite his big money signings. Give the wee man a break.

He was a world beater - how miller played on those few occasions was more than enough to prove to 50,000 season ticket holders and fans that he was the real deal.
he messed up himself by going to man u and not getting a game for two years - kind of fecks up any kind of continuity and momentum !

do you think that gs would have done what he has if he took the job BEFORE MON?
think the universal answer is a resounding NO.
Do you watch celtic at all ?

jamie smith was never a decent player under mon - hes a striker for starters and was only a winger/makeshift full back under mon. Aberdeen is his level. Nice lad though

been giving gs a break for a few years now. MON's wife made sure his focus wasnt on CP in his last season - maybe more.

gs or MON - no comparison

Yeah, Miller was genuine quality. Fergie was wrong. No judge of a player that man. He'll never make a decent manager. 

?? ?
surely what you have just said backs up my point that miller was a potentially great player, good enough for man u to want,yet only for fergie to squander by not picking him
plenty of others have had similar experiences - that juan sebastian veron was a donkey wasnt he 

With all young players, you're just buying potential. Fergie saw potential in Miller so he bought him. Miller didn't fulfill his early promise. Nothing to do with Fergie or Man Utd. It happens with loads of young lads and would probably have happened even if Miller had stayed at CP. He just didn't make the grade, end of story.

'myles' players with potential only dont play and star in 3 Champions league games
likewise in the spl games until the bombshel in jan scuppered it all

He figured in only 20 - 30 games for Celtic, including European matches, and many of those appearances were as a sub. He hadn't even established himself in the first team. He showed great potential, but that's all. No club in Europe has a better record than Man Utd for bringing on young talent. If they couldn't make a top grade player out of Miller, it's because he didn't have it in him. QPR? That's his level.

stick to linfield
you dont seem to know much about Celtic or miller then.
am starting to wonder if you ni fans even know much about soccer at all!

Spot the man who's just lost the argument! 

nope you just havent a clue so is there any point replying you the'both of you' !
if you did know about Celtic and miller(even gained the info from earlier posts)
Millers credentials were mad on his perf in reserves when not inj and mostly in the season at Aalborg and then in the season with the first team.
so as mentioned, stick to your own team - linfield ...etc etc

dont play with the big boys as you only end up getting found out !

[lynchbhoy]

He figured in only 20 - 30 games for Celtic, including European matches, and many of those appearances were as a sub. He hadn't even established himself in the first team. He showed great potential, but that's all. No club in Europe has a better record than Man Utd for bringing on young talent. If they couldn't make a top grade player out of Miller, it's because he didn't have it in him. QPR? That's his level.

stick to linfield
you dont seem to know much about Celtic or miller then.
am starting to wonder if you ni fans even know much about soccer at all!

Is this yet another repetition of  your claim that Myles Na G and I are one and the same? Or are you confusing Myles with someone else again?

Anyhow, for the record, this NI fan knows or cares very little about Celtic (although I do take marginally more interest in them now they've got 3 or 4 NI players on the books). That said, having to choose between supporting them or Linfield would be a bit like asking me whether I wanted to saw my own arm off with a broken bottle or a rusty knife...

P.S. Liam Miller's entry in Wiki shows he played a grand total of 26 games for Celtic, so with an estimate of "20 to 30", Myles got that one pretty much bang-on, at least.

scizo !

[Main Street]

Article
He (Willo) also said the speculation affected him as he missed a crucial penalty in Wednesday's Co-operative Insurance Cup semi-final defeat by Celtic

Willo
"When I went up to take the kick I was thinking of going the opposite way, which I never do."
"I think that's why I just gave it a little bit too much."



Talk about a journalist misinterpretation of a simple statement by Willo.

[Muzz]

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[lynchbhoy]

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What 

[nifan]

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You reckon it is getting in the way of scintillating debate?

[lynchbhoy]

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You reckon it is getting in the way of scintillating debate?

like this one ?

[Myles Na G.]

Lynchboy, you would also agree that the team was in need of major overhaul when WGS tookover, as evidenced by the throwing away of the league title in the dying minutes of the final game of the previous season, and WGS didn't inherit any players of the calibre of Larsson, Moravcik etc.

The real criticism is why the team wasn't bolstered immediately after the 2003 UEFA Cup Final

My contention remains that both O'Neill and Strachan have done admirable jobs at Celtic Park. But even the current issue of NTV questions the style of football played by O'Neill post Henrik.

lost it in midfield mostly that year, and the successor was groomed and ready, but the little rat fecked off to man u
big problem was the amount of inj , and MON was guilty of being too loyal to the old guard and not giving some of the younger lads a run when needed. He made a mistake - but that didnt happen often !

buying quality players over a rake of mediocre players I think is the way to go, they all cost much the same
a couple of top notch players helping you progress inthe CL and their wages wouldnt cost that much more than a heap of shaun maloneys that will do fcuk all for the team (apart from the reserves)

He turned out to be a world beater, didn't he? A handful of promising appearances doesn't make for a great player. (remember Jamie Smith??) I'm a big fan of MON and what he achieved at CP, but Strach's record betters him. He took over an ageing squad and turned it into a championship winning side. He took the Hoops into the latter stages of European competition, where MON couldn't manage it, despite his big money signings. Give the wee man a break.

He was a world beater - how miller played on those few occasions was more than enough to prove to 50,000 season ticket holders and fans that he was the real deal.
he messed up himself by going to man u and not getting a game for two years - kind of fecks up any kind of continuity and momentum !

do you think that gs would have done what he has if he took the job BEFORE MON?
think the universal answer is a resounding NO.
Do you watch celtic at all ?

jamie smith was never a decent player under mon - hes a striker for starters and was only a winger/makeshift full back under mon. Aberdeen is his level. Nice lad though

been giving gs a break for a few years now. MON's wife made sure his focus wasnt on CP in his last season - maybe more.

gs or MON - no comparison

Yeah, Miller was genuine quality. Fergie was wrong. No judge of a player that man. He'll never make a decent manager. 

?? ?
surely what you have just said backs up my point that miller was a potentially great player, good enough for man u to want,yet only for fergie to squander by not picking him
plenty of others have had similar experiences - that juan sebastian veron was a donkey wasnt he 

With all young players, you're just buying potential. Fergie saw potential in Miller so he bought him. Miller didn't fulfill his early promise. Nothing to do with Fergie or Man Utd. It happens with loads of young lads and would probably have happened even if Miller had stayed at CP. He just didn't make the grade, end of story.

'myles' players with potential only dont play and star in 3 Champions league games
likewise in the spl games until the bombshel in jan scuppered it all

He figured in only 20 - 30 games for Celtic, including European matches, and many of those appearances were as a sub. He hadn't even established himself in the first team. He showed great potential, but that's all. No club in Europe has a better record than Man Utd for bringing on young talent. If they couldn't make a top grade player out of Miller, it's because he didn't have it in him. QPR? That's his level.

stick to linfield
you dont seem to know much about Celtic or miller then.
am starting to wonder if you ni fans even know much about soccer at all!

Spot the man who's just lost the argument! 

nope you just havent a clue so is there any point replying you the'both of you' !
if you did know about Celtic and miller(even gained the info from earlier posts)
Millers credentials were mad on his perf in reserves when not inj and mostly in the season at Aalborg and then in the season with the first team.
so as mentioned, stick to your own team - linfield ...etc etc

dont play with the big boys as you only end up getting found out !

Where he managed no goals in 18 appearances. Impressive. And Celtic reserves, you say? Well why didn't you mention that before. That puts him up there with the greats. 

'Big boys'. 

[lynchbhoy]

Where he managed no goals in 18 appearances. Impressive. And Celtic reserves, you say? Well why didn't you mention that before. That puts him up there with the greats. 

'Big boys'. 

scraping , no yer licking the underside of the barrel now evil myles

obv no understanding of how a player can build up a reputation fo rhimself to garner a new contract.

if it was all based on goals 
so nothing else to mention in relation to why Miller wasnt coveted ? thought not.

away with you and play with your other little friends...

[Myles Na G.]

Where he managed no goals in 18 appearances. Impressive. And Celtic reserves, you say? Well why didn't you mention that before. That puts him up there with the greats. 

'Big boys'. 

scraping , no yer licking the underside of the barrel now evil myles

obv no understanding of how a player can build up a reputation fo rhimself to garner a new contract.

if it was all based on goals 
so nothing else to mention in relation to why Miller wasnt coveted ? thought not.

away with you and play with your other little friends...

'big boys'.
'little friends.'