Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Goals_Will_Come]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

Some teams need the training before others. Thankfully our boys could do with starting in April which I think is the plan. Got to time it right as well with a good championship draw (3 newly promoted teams) I think we could give it a good rattle.

Donaghmore might want to think about starting a bit earlier if they want to avoid getting caught up in the relegation picture.

[Sean Og Patriots]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

Some teams need the training before others. Thankfully our boys could do with starting in April which I think is the plan. Got to time it right as well with a good championship draw (3 newly promoted teams) I think we could give it a good rattle.

Donaghmore might want to think about starting a bit earlier if they want to avoid getting caught up in the relegation picture.

If Greencastle beat Us this year, il delete my account.       

[GAA Club Fan]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

[jimmy_12]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

Some teams need the training before others. Thankfully our boys could do with starting in April which I think is the plan. Got to time it right as well with a good championship draw (3 newly promoted teams) I think we could give it a good rattle.

Aww here we go again. If not this year next year and if not next year the year after?

[GAA Club Fan]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

[Goals_Will_Come]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

New structure was proposed to allow for a mid April start - 10 Starred games worth 2 points each and remaining 5 games worth 4 Points each along side decoupling Reserves from Seniors - with holiday period last weekend in June and first weekend in July.
Club were very much opposed to this change and isn't coming into effect.

Instead it seems leagues are proceeding in mid May with 7 starred games worth 2 points and the remaining non starred games worth 3 points. Reserves alongside Senior games. And no confirmed holiday period yet.

[ManFromMoygashel]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

New structure was proposed to allow for a mid April start - 10 Starred games worth 2 points each and remaining 5 games worth 4 Points each along side decoupling Reserves from Seniors - with holiday period last weekend in June and first weekend in July.
Club were very much opposed to this change and isn't coming into effect.

Instead it seems leagues are proceeding in mid May with 7 starred games worth 2 points and the remaining non starred games worth 3 points. Reserves alongside Senior games. And no confirmed holiday period yet.

Not to predict your age pasthepost but the games changed a lot since our day.
Taking the winter months to "enjoy ourselves" and then getting back into it for the new season doesn't happen now.

Irregardless of when the season starts lads these days are all about health and fitness, they'd be at crossfit or hydrox if there was no word of a season starts.

Collective training is them enjoying themselves, not pinting together like in the 00s ( guessing your mid forties haha)

[PastThePost]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

New structure was proposed to allow for a mid April start - 10 Starred games worth 2 points each and remaining 5 games worth 4 Points each along side decoupling Reserves from Seniors - with holiday period last weekend in June and first weekend in July.
Club were very much opposed to this change and isn't coming into effect.

Instead it seems leagues are proceeding in mid May with 7 starred games worth 2 points and the remaining non starred games worth 3 points. Reserves alongside Senior games. And no confirmed holiday period yet.

Not to predict your age pasthepost but the games changed a lot since our day.
Taking the winter months to "enjoy ourselves" and then getting back into it for the new season doesn't happen now.

Irregardless of when the season starts lads these days are all about health and fitness, they'd be at crossfit or hydrox if there was no word of a season starts.

Collective training is them enjoying themselves, not pinting together like in the 00s ( guessing your mid forties haha)

If you read my post you will see that I make the comment that players nowadays do look after themselves in closed season and don't come back 2-3 stone overweight...
I don't agree that collective training is players enjoying themselves if it goes on too long, it's like anything, if you spend too much time doing the same thing it goes stale, you need a break from the same faces and voices, the best managers recognise that, collective preseason, especially in the early stages, is often taken by different coaches, maybe ones with S&C qualifications or running knowledge. Football managers often stay away so as it is different and players don't get fed up with their voice.
Each to their own, but I've been involved in successful teams and we have very much focused on quality and not quantity, with a practical approach, recognising that players have lives and it's not a job, personally I think it helps if you're seeking longevity, but many paid managers have a very full on approach that is more short term...not saying that isn't right if you're looking for results, but I like to think about players and their families.

[PMG1]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

Including the U20's in the starred game system where the starred games go ahead without the county U20's and seniors would solve a lot of the problems, it's the U20's that held up the league last year and likely to this year too

[Goals_Will_Come]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

Including the U20's in the starred game system where the starred games go ahead without the county U20's and seniors would solve a lot of the problems, it's the U20's that held up the league last year and likely to this year too

Personally think the May start date works well for footballers. Playing football at the best time of year on the best pitches. The additional two starred games and potential holiday period being last weekend of June and first weekend of July allows a good schedule to be put in place and no hold ups in July then waiting on Tyrone in All Ireland Semi Finals and potential Final.
Potential Calendar:
1. 15th May **
2. 22nd May **
3. 29th May **
4. 6th June **
5. 13th June **
6. 20th June **
7. 10th July **
8. 17th July **
9. 24th July
10. 31st July
11. 2nd August
12. 9th August
13. 16th August
14. 23rd August
15. 30th August

[W.A.G. Lover]

Beragh with 28 players at their collective gym sessions from 2/3 weeks prior to Christmas. Great turn out to say the least regarding their low population. Everyone buying in to it. Heard a few teams in the East have been running the roads together. That's the thing now with club football most players aren't going out to become better at football, its more that everyone is looking after themselves.

Can we really sit here and say thats a joke? Its not like teams are training on the pitch 2/3 nights a week like they will be soon. People on here are not with the times at all.

Collective training organised by the management team 5-6 months before the league starts is a joke, people wonder why so many young players are getting out of the game, it is unreasonable to expect players to make that kind of commitment to play club football. I have worked with a lot of so called top managers, most of them work on a minus 6 week rule, they get the players together 6 weeks before the date of the first game, that's not to say they don't advocate the players getting together 6-8 weeks before that to do gym and/or running sessions, so lets just say 3 months in total, but this carry on of getting collective training in place 5 months before a ball is kicked is a joke.
Hunger and enjoyment are 2 vital ingredients, you can't have hunger if you are doing it every week, enjoyment goes out of it when you are doing it every week, it becomes a chore, that's the last thing you want as a manager. Quality not quantity...most players nowadays are looking after themselves physically, so you're not starting off with men coming back 2-3 stone overweight like back in the day, when people realise that you have to have enjoyment and hunger, they'll see better results, only team that should be training collectively in Tyrone at the present is Clogher, fair play to them!

The last communication from the CB, as far as I know, is that with 7 starred games year a mid April start is possible. Minus 3 months and that's this week.

Part of the problem is that teams have no idea when Week One is.

County convention said season would start in May as clubs had no desire for change that would lead to an earlier start.

What changes would give an earlier start that aren't applicable for May?

Including the U20's in the starred game system where the starred games go ahead without the county U20's and seniors would solve a lot of the problems, it's the U20's that held up the league last year and likely to this year too

Personally think the May start date works well for footballers. Playing football at the best time of year on the best pitches. The additional two starred games and potential holiday period being last weekend of June and first weekend of July allows a good schedule to be put in place and no hold ups in July then waiting on Tyrone in All Ireland Semi Finals and potential Final.
Potential Calendar:
1. 15th May **
2. 22nd May **
3. 29th May **
4. 6th June **
5. 13th June **
6. 20th June **
7. 10th July **
8. 17th July **
9. 24th July
10. 31st July
11. 2nd August
12. 9th August
13. 16th August
14. 23rd August
15. 30th August

Looks good in principle - Hard to beat 15 individual weeks. Also gives an opportunity for standalone fixtures ie derby games or Tyrone GAA to video.
U20s inclusion within this to be considered, and the step away from traditional 12th week holiday period (Albeit no holiday period last year).

Is there a master fixture schedule issued or planned for issue? Particularly championship round dates for each division.

[WesternT]

Be interesting to see how many of the managers listed are inside men...
Be good to see more clubs getting back to basics and living into the ethos of the GAA, the parish and representing the people within it.
For example Omagh have gone with inside management and I would fully expect them to improve on recent years.
Errigal have reaped the rewards of internal men, Loughmacrory as well.
Clubs think that bringing in outside men gives them a more unbiased view, but as clubs are seeing more and more is that these outside managers are very easily influenced by the players, so that perceived advantage is lost, hoping to see an increase in inside managers in the future.

Loughnmacrory reaped the rewards of inside men? Are you having a laugh.
Boyle-Derry
Barrett-Donegal Mallon (GK Coach)- Derry S and C Coach- Derry Gallagher-Fermanagh

[TheDergView]

Let's have all your promotion/league winners, championship winners and relegations for the 3 divisions

Oneill cup - Trillick/ Errigal..
Paddy Cullen - Pomeroy/Naomh Eoghan
Pat Darcy - fintona/ tatts

D1 league - Trillick
D2 league - wide open. I'll go with Greencastle
3A- fintona
3B- derg

Relegation;
1- Coalisland & Moortown
D2- Cookstown & Beragh

[HillMafia15]

have to Tattyreagh for 3B,yes they have had couple hard years but with 2 good managers now and boys coming home and young ones stepping up.Tatts will walk 3B and be in champo talk