Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[lenny]

There is no perfect solution to the club county debate. Given the way the inter county season is structured it's very difficult to organise fixtures. This is a general gaa problem and not a Tyrone one. I often think people are often top harsh towards the county board and Harte on the issue, Tyrone clubs get more access to the county players than many other counties.

In order to improve things compromise is needed. The county board have to get in place a proper set of fixtures so that every one knows what's happening. The current situation of ad hoc late planned fixtures with big breaks is unacceptable to club players. On the other hand clubs must except that county players won't be available for all games and take competitions seriously in their absence.

I've suggested a solution a few times on here that I really think could improve things and be a fair solution to many of the issues. Keep 3 tiers of 16 for the championship. But split each in to 2 groups of 8. Each team plays each other once with 7 games and county players available for all.

These could be pencilled in at start of year when Tyrone definitely wouldn't be playing and is less than the ten leagues games they currently have to fit in. The top four would then qualify for the quarter finals and there'd be relegation play offs for bottom two. This has the advantage of clubs having all players available for games that determine their championship status.

Then there would be a separate league that would run irrespective of county fixtures. It would run throughout the summer at the height of the county season giving regular games. I'd maybe suggest having 2 grades a senior and intermediate. Each split into two 11s based on geography. Would then be play offs to determine overall winners. Given that there would be no big journeys it would allow for Friday night games avoiding clashes with county games and giving the boys the weekend off.

County player participation in those games would be optional depending on how Tyrone do and if players need games etc. It would allow some different fixtures and games at the right time. The success of the league would be down to club interest.

Any opinions on something like this or if it would improve things? There is no perfect fix but change is needed.

Good idea. There has to be regular games for club players. It is so frustrating and unfair for players to wait 7 or 8 weeks with no games when the weather is good and then have 5 or 6 games shoehorned in in 3 weeks. Young lads just want one game a week on a regular and consistent basis for the duration of the season.

[time ticking away]

I see Derry and Antrim had their club championship draws this week. What's happening here ? Anyone know anything ?

[GlenMan]

I see Derry and Antrim had their club championship draws this week. What's happening here ? Anyone know anything ?

CCC meeting with Clubs on Thursday night so it may take place then.

[Knock Yer Mucker In]

CLUB| Club Championship Debate Heats Up.


The mood at tonight's meeting of Tyrone club Chairmen and Secretaries suggests that the clubs are determined to delay the start of the club championship until August.

The timing of the club championship has become something of a real hot potato over the last few years and it seems that the vast majority of club representatives are more than keen to put an end to the idea of starting the club championship in May. Looks like a developing story.

Source: Teamtalk

Common sense has finally started to prevail.

[longballin]

Harte in dispute with Derry. I suppose it was too much to hope for that we wouldnt have another year of our county team being the most oppresed people ever 

[LeoMc]

Harte in dispute with Derry. I suppose it was too much to hope for that we wouldnt have another year of our county team being the most oppresed people ever 

In fairness Bartons comments about the McCann incident were the opening salvo.

[shezam]

I see Derry and Antrim had their club championship draws this week. What's happening here ? Anyone know anything ?

CCC meeting with Clubs on Thursday night so it may take place then.

Draw to take place last week Feb

[GlenMan]

Proposal from CCC presented last night to go back to a 4 division league- Div 1A, 1B, 2 & 3 - from 2018.

It would mean that there will be four league divisions but only three Championship grades (Championship remaining Junior, Inter, Senior).

In all divisions each team will play each other, home and away, with County Senior Players available for at least one of these games. There will be no end of season relegation/promotion play offs.

[Mikhailov]

Proposal from CCC presented last night to go back to a 4 division league- Div 1A, 1B, 2 & 3 - from 2018.

It would mean that there will be four league divisions but only three Championship grades (Championship remaining Junior, Inter, Senior).

In all divisions each team will play each other, home and away, with County Senior Players available for at least one of these games. There will be no end of season relegation/promotion play offs.

Not a bad idea in principle but it wont work. 4 divisions = 4 x 12 if I understand correctly. You claim that each team plays H&A so there are 22 games and county players are GUARANTEED to play minimum 11 - sure at the minute they only play 10 when you take into consideration the starred games. The county situation is getting worse not better so there is no way MH or whoever is manager is going to release them for MORE games. This scenario is heading down the same track as club rugby in Ireland - you NEVER see the elite rugby player playing for their club (Dungannon, Ballymena, Instonians etc) and he only plays for his province when recovering from injury or when the Ireland season is over. Unfortunately we are heading the same way fast !

[rrhf]

Proposal from CCC presented last night to go back to a 4 division league- Div 1A, 1B, 2 & 3 - from 2018.

It would mean that there will be four league divisions but only three Championship grades (Championship remaining Junior, Inter, Senior).

In all divisions each team will play each other, home and away, with County Senior Players available for at least one of these games. There will be no end of season relegation/promotion play offs.

Great idea

[Tyrone Gaa]

This proposal doesn't work for me!! Don't think the 4 leagues work.  The 3 league system is great with your league opposition being your championship opposition.  Clubs that do contribute to county setup could play 11 games without their players, potentially relegate teams leaving them in a false position.  5 games is bad enough but 11 games.  I see the benefit for the club schedule and the club footballer will know their schedule for the year. 

What we have isn't ideal but I think its better than the proposal made.

[bigpackiechestout]

Proposal from CCC presented last night to go back to a 4 division league- Div 1A, 1B, 2 & 3 - from 2018.

It would mean that there will be four league divisions but only three Championship grades (Championship remaining Junior, Inter, Senior).

In all divisions each team will play each other, home and away, with County Senior Players available for at least one of these games. There will be no end of season relegation/promotion play offs.

Great idea IMO. Especially like the proposal that County players must be available for at least one game against each team. Last year we had games like Killyclogher v Omagh and Dromore v Trillick effectively ruined because each team had 3 or 4 county mean that couldn't play. These games should be the biggest league game of the season for these sides.

Only thing i would introduce is a cap on the amount of games that county men can be excluded for, which should be 6 or 7 max.

Although as someone else said under this proposal there will be 22 league games per club each season. At the minute each club in Div 1 has 15 and we struggle to run the season off before December so that could pose a problem.

[Mikhailov]

Youth football Sir -

Any man got any idea what is going on here...proposed minor grades are out, starting date is 14 days away, no pitches available due to weather, no fixtures announced and no one seems to care !!!

Rant over (although just a minor rant) !

[GlenMan]

Youth football Sir -

Any man got any idea what is going on here...proposed minor grades are out, starting date is 14 days away, no pitches available due to weather, no fixtures announced and no one seems to care !!!

Rant over (although just a minor rant) !

Also updated by CCC last night. Minor due to start on 20th Feb with U14 starting 5th March. Fixtures and final grades to be sent out in the next couple of days. There was no mention whether start date would be postponed due to weather.

[Mikhailov]

Youth football Sir -

Any man got any idea what is going on here...proposed minor grades are out, starting date is 14 days away, no pitches available due to weather, no fixtures announced and no one seems to care !!!

Rant over (although just a minor rant) !

Also updated by CCC last night. Minor due to start on 20th Feb with U14 starting 5th March. Fixtures and final grades to be sent out in the next couple of days. There was no mention whether start date would be postponed due to weather.

Are the McRory cup quarter finals on the 20th also ??