The Many Faces of US Politics...

[03,05,08]

The way they are speaking on Pat kennys show today, you'd of swore Biden had imposed strict sanctions on Israel and was pressuring them to stop hostilities, and now that trump is in Israel back in business.

[Banks of the Bann]

it will lead to the genocide of Ukrainians or at least that was what posters were saying before the election.

Oh look there's the slippery one, missed you loads.

Yes, when Ukraine no longer exists and Ukrainians are forced to be "Russian" then that's a genocide.

so not impossible to know, as you wrote less than 30 minutes ago!!!

Impossible to know exactly what he is going to do but one thing he won't do is help Ukraine win the war.

And so on and on it will go for Ukraine.

Simple enough for you?

Lol, Slippery sitting on the sidelines and pouncing in with an imaginary gotcha.

there you are out on the front lines    while I sit on the sidelines.

it was definitive that it would be a genocide before the election and anyone not voting or would not vote for Harris was voting for a genocide of Ukrainians so why has that message changed since the election!!! its now impossible to know and he won't help Ukraine win.. like the US was helping Ukraine win for the past 3 years!!

what's your next username going to be?

Ah the old "frontlines" jibe. That's a real favourite of the pro-Russian and the slippery closet pro-Russian brigade. Like you can't support Ukraine in their fight against genocide without heading to the frontlines. Just back from Gaza yourself are you? Maybe that's why you've been so quiet lately.

So, yes impossible to know. Will he abandon Ukraine outright or just force a frozen conflict on them (slow death)? Either way, the outcome will be the end of Ukraine.

So cling to your imaginary gotcha, it's all you've got.

why is it impossible to know now but before it wasn't?

you were very clear that it meant genocide for Ukrainians and you posted numerous times how not voting Harris was pro Russian ( a favourite line of yours) and I am/was pro Russian and against genocide in Gaza but not Ukraine for saying I would not vote for Harris. was it 20/30m more people from Ukraine into Europe but now its impossible to know??

if you cannot answer that's fine, it must be hard to remember all the shite you post with the numerous usernames you have... keep the childish insults flowing  ..

I've explained what I meant multiple times already. It's clear. You've got nothing so you'll keep clinging.

As for the rest, I said that voting Harris was the lesser of two evils, better for Ukraine, no difference for Palestine. You made it clear you'd happily sit on some kind of imaginary moral high ground, even if it meant throwing an entire nation to the wolves.

[Mourne Red]

One to watch - Johnson will be back in charge of Tories (or will try to be) for 2029 election. I think he'll say if Donald can do it why can't I

[J70]

The way they are speaking on Pat kennys show today, you'd of swore Biden had imposed strict sanctions on Israel and was pressuring them to stop hostilities, and now that trump is in Israel back in business.

They must have been watching some of the Trump ads I saw in Florida this weekend saying more or less that.

[whitey]

Keep in mind Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020-dropped out even before Iowa-flat out terrible and clueless

Her vote tally in NYC was the lowest for a D since 1988


Same in Chicago - so obviously even hard core Democrats saw how bad she is

[Banks of the Bann]

Both full on America Firsters AND fervent Zionists delighted at the result. Will be interesting to see who's been fooled... as if there's any doubt.

Watch again in this administration how Jews control America.

Are Zionists and Jews interchangeable now Skull? You've been on that slippery slope for a while now.

I thought not all Jews were Zionists? (They aren't).

[J70]

L

What did Trump achieve in his first term that stands out or made a difference for the ordinary Joe?

Loaded the Supreme Court.
Got NATO countries to pay 2% on defence.
Overseen average economic growth with low inflation (nothing to do with him but he'll take credit for it like all politicians)

Big thing I would say is that he changed how immigration is viewed.

Agree on that last point.

He has at the very least partly reset the bar on immigration. The fact that the Dems agreed (and Harris said she'd implement) a very conservative border bill earlier this year (which Trump torpedoed to preserve the issue as a political football) shows how the outlook has changed. Some of the change can be also probably be put down to the Dems seeing how things have unfolded in the last couple of years on the ground.

Question going forward will be how far he takes it. If he does start the mass round ups and internment camps, you'd assume there'll at least eventually be a backlash.

[J70]

Keep in mind Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020-dropped out even before Iowa-flat out terrible and clueless

Her vote tally in NYC was the lowest for a D since 1988


Same in Chicago - so obviously even hard core Democrats saw how bad she is

She wasn't great, no question, but I'd put more of the blame for this on Biden. He completely misread the midterms as an endorsement when he should have stood aside for a proper primary, as most assumed would happen when they elected him. History will not be kind.

[Pub Bore]

Keep in mind Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020-dropped out even before Iowa-flat out terrible and clueless

Her vote tally in NYC was the lowest for a D since 1988


Same in Chicago - so obviously even hard core Democrats saw how bad she is

She wasn't great, no question, but I'd put more of the blame for this on Biden. He completely misread the midterms as an endorsement when he should have stood aside for a proper primary, as most assumed would happen when they elected him. History will not be kind.

Have to agree, Biden was always a stop Trump, one term president in 2020.  They didn't have time to find a good candidate.

[Pub Bore]

Not much talk of electoral fraud this morning.

[johnnycool]

[Wildweasel74]

Barron Trump any football in him!, some size. I think the European opinion of Americans hasn't been great for many a year.Seen as loud, brass, everything about we see in Trump. A perfect match for them, outside of the fact he brings racial/immigrant hate, is a born liar, and a no. Of other bad traits to the table. I expect Israel to go even harder, on the attack in the nxt few weeks/months then cut back when Trump comes in,in January.

[armaghniac]

Keep in mind Harris was a terrible candidate in 2020-dropped out even before Iowa-flat out terrible and clueless

Her vote tally in NYC was the lowest for a D since 1988


Same in Chicago - so obviously even hard core Democrats saw how bad she is

She wasn't great, no question, but I'd put more of the blame for this on Biden. He completely misread the midterms as an endorsement when he should have stood aside for a proper primary, as most assumed would happen when they elected him. History will not be kind.

Yep, Biden should have said that he would not run again, and used some language about one term being enough for anyone his age. As you say, history will not be kind.

On immigration, it was dangerous to give any impression of things being out of control, they should have negotiated the cross party bill sooner in the their term.

However, on the economy it is clear that the macro economy is doing rightly, slbeit with excessive government borrowing, but there are some issues with the spread of the benefits. So what exact policies should the democrats have followed that Trump will follow that will make a material difference? From this side of the Atlantic I don't see this at all. 

[gallsman]

Both full on America Firsters AND fervent Zionists delighted at the result. Will be interesting to see who's been fooled... as if there's any doubt.

Watch again in this administration how Jews control America (and rest of the West).

This is acceptable on the board now, is it?

[Premier Emperor]

Irish elites having a meltdown over the result is brilliant. 
They really can't handle why someone would vote for Trump.