It Must be Marching Season

Started by Nally Stand, June 27, 2011, 11:27:31 AM

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Armagh18

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2026, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 27, 2026, 07:26:18 PMFrom Darran Marshall,

The police have just warned the Orange Order that they are breaking the terms of the determination by having more than 35 people at Drumcree.
Oh yes
Will the cops tell them to go home though?

David McKeown

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2026, 07:19:48 PMMr David Legal man. Question.

If the courts gave the OO x window for their march, and that has passed, are they illegally assembling now?

No. The legislation recognises scenarios like that and allows the chief Constable considerable latitude. If they had fecked about and refused to walk today walk at the time they had applied to walk down then arguably the would be but be the "right" can not be frustrated by the actions of others otherwise it would have no teeth.
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Quote from: David McKeown on September 27, 2026, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2026, 07:19:48 PMMr David Legal man. Question.

If the courts gave the OO x window for their march, and that has passed, are they illegally assembling now?

No. The legislation recognises scenarios like that and allows the chief Constable considerable latitude. If they had fecked about and refused to walk today walk at the time they had applied to walk down then arguably the would be but be the "right" can not be frustrated by the actions of others otherwise it would have no teeth.

Yet on Friday the PSNI thought that the march could go ahead because there would be no trouble. Did they just ask Carla Loveheart and nobody else?
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: David McKeown on September 27, 2026, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2026, 07:19:48 PMMr David Legal man. Question.

If the courts gave the OO x window for their march, and that has passed, are they illegally assembling now?

No. The legislation recognises scenarios like that and allows the chief Constable considerable latitude. If they had fecked about and refused to walk today walk at the time they had applied to walk down then arguably the would be but be the "right" can not be frustrated by the actions of others otherwise it would have no teeth.
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p3427977

Quote from: David McKeown on September 27, 2026, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2026, 07:19:48 PMMr David Legal man. Question.

If the courts gave the OO x window for their march, and that has passed, are they illegally assembling now?

No. The legislation recognises scenarios like that and allows the chief Constable considerable latitude. If they had fecked about and refused to walk today walk at the time they had applied to walk down then arguably the would be but be the "right" can not be frustrated by the actions of others otherwise it would have no teeth.
Can this considerable latitude stretch days and weeks?

Armagh18

Relax lads this is all a distraction to stop us uniting and focusing on the real problem of the boat people according to the patriots on facebook

Rossfan

All overseen by "globalists" and "NGOs" no doubt.
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Harold Disgracey

Two of the 35 orangemen have went home because it is cold!

Windmill abu

Quote from: DaleCooper on September 27, 2026, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2026, 06:22:46 PMI do think one of the things these feckers are doing is trying to discredit the "first minister" and say she is not a first minister for all. They actually think she is in an untenable position which I don't think she is. This after refusing to call her a first minister for all but you can bet today and tomorrow she will be called first minister.

Stormont will hardly last tomorrow.

Yip the rhetoric I have seen repeated is "if they cant allow us a simple march then how could we feel welcome in a UI"

The victimhood politics is fairly galling to listen to.

Bigoted orange bastards are not welcome in a United Ireland. So F**k off back to Scotland.
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nrico2006

Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2026, 08:09:49 PMAll overseen by "globalists" and "NGOs" no doubt.

Is it not a joint ploy by the DUP/SF?
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trileacman

Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2026, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: trileacman on September 27, 2026, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 27, 2026, 03:08:51 PMf**k me, it is incredibly simple.

A5? Because the incompetent DfI fucked up and didn't tick the boxes it needed to.

Drumcree? Because the incompetent PC fucked up and didn't tick all the boxes it needed to.

Judges do not have the discretion to consciously choose to ignore the law because the outcome is a disgrace. Is it that difficult to comprehend?! But sure just you keep ranting and raving. That'll help.

You're wrong on both counts. PC looked at OO application for the match and decided to allow it. There was no element of a missed box being ticked.

Likewise McAllinden denied the A5 by interpreting the climate change act in a manner wholly removed from what was intended. Forcing the dept to prove that the A5 wouldn't increase pollution is impossible. Yet he found a spurious enough excuse to deny the project and lumber the rest of us with the 200 million pound bill.

As I previously said neither decision displayed any common sense.

I'm talking about why the original determination was quashed, which is what has led to all of this in the first place, which is the decision that McAlinden was involved in, which is what we're discussing.

So no, I'm not wrong in the f**king slightest

Go on then tell us all the compelling legal argument that meant the march had to go ahead?
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Rossfan

Quote from: nrico2006 on September 27, 2026, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2026, 08:09:49 PMAll overseen by "globalists" and "NGOs" no doubt.

Is it not a joint ploy by the DUP/SF?
They're getting their orders from the "globalists and NGOs" ;D 
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