The DUP thread

[Captain Scarlet]

I can't remember the name of the woman but she was saying the London life and life back home were worlds apart and that had to be known by every journo and party big wigs.

Now I see some on X saying that they always knew he was dodgy, but that's an admission in my book!

[brokencrossbar1]

The Spotlight show was not as explosive as I thought it might and I do feel it was slightly contrived. What evidence is there that he puked on the Mayor of Beijing?  Like he's not going to deny it and no one is actually going to support it. 2 senior members of the PSNI just happened to be walking past a prominent gay sauna place when he just happened to be going in?  I don't buy it.

It seems strange that all these stories are breaking now so long after the event. All very convenient. Like everything in this place I am always suspicious of who gains what from each action or event. I think there are more pages to be turned here on this whole thing yet and there will be a few people sweating hard at the minute wondering when they will be in the firing line.

[Dougal Maguire]

The Spotlight show was not as explosive as I thought it might and I do feel it was slightly contrived. What evidence is there that he puked on the Mayor of Beijing?  Like he's not going to deny it and no one is actually going to support it. 2 senior members of the PSNI just happened to be walking past a prominent gay sauna place when he just happened to be going in?  I don't buy it.

It seems strange that all these stories are breaking now so long after the event. All very convenient. Like everything in this place I am always suspicious of who gains what from each action or event. I think there are more pages to be turned here on this whole thing yet and there will be a few people sweating hard at the minute wondering when they will be in the firing line.

'What evidence is there that he puked over the Mayor of Beijing?'  The statement came from the mouth of Ian Paisley! What sort of doubting Thomas are you?? Ian hasn't a dishonest bone in his body and if he says he witnessed it that should be good enough for everyone

[playwiththewind1st]

The DUP boking up over a Chinese Communist Party dignitary? Strange goings on @ these gatherings, when the ould Chinese rice wine is served.

Maybe President Xi had a cunning plan, to oust Jeffrey from the DUP leadership & to parachute big Gavin in. Who knows?

Plus, Paisley Junior having a go at anyone [even Donaldson] is just ludicrous, when you look back at his own track record.

[Tony Baloney]

David Graham on Sunday Politics mentioned that Sammy and Flegory lived with Jeffrey in London and have been noticeably quiet.

[Rossfan]

Headline from Sunday "Independent"


Jeffrey Donaldson gave teenagers sex-education classes and told them to place a Bible between them to resist temptation
Child rapist and his wife Eleanor were inspired to become born-again Christians by a convicted paedophile

[seafoid]

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/uknews/dup-may-be-damaged-beyond-repair-by-donaldson-revelations-says-ex-adviser/

Former DUP special adviser David Graham indicated it will be hard to rebuild trust amid a "drip feed of negativity".

"The DUP have had some significant political crises in the last 20 year, this blows them all out of the water, and by some distance," he told BBC Northern Ireland's Sunday Politics programme.

[seafoid]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/comment/opinion/the-ruc-widow-who-saw-through-wee-jeffrey-was-her-fury-an-early-warning-sign-we-all-missed/a/157872176.html

He wasn't the first politician to be caught lying.

But the idea that someone as high profile as Donaldson and as much in the public eye can be so depraved unnerves and appals.

What we are seeking is the reassurance that paedophiles cannot move undetected among us, that we can keep children safe from them. There is none.

The guilty verdict may have brought his courageous victims a form of closure, but the trauma he inflicted when he raped a little girl, when he pushed his hands into a little girl's underwear, is a life sentence.

The reality is Donaldson, like so many abusers, was able to control and intimidate for decades. His public persona was his shield, not his undoing.

[JoG2]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/comment/opinion/the-ruc-widow-who-saw-through-wee-jeffrey-was-her-fury-an-early-warning-sign-we-all-missed/a/157872176.html

He wasn't the first politician to be caught lying.

But the idea that someone as high profile as Donaldson and as much in the public eye can be so depraved unnerves and appals.

What we are seeking is the reassurance that paedophiles cannot move undetected among us, that we can keep children safe from them. There is none.

The guilty verdict may have brought his courageous victims a form of closure, but the trauma he inflicted when he raped a little girl, when he pushed his hands into a little girl's underwear, is a life sentence.

The reality is Donaldson, like so many abusers, was able to control and intimidate for decades. His public persona was his shield, not his undoing.

Cannot move undetected, yeah right....Kincora files sealed, 1 the president of the USA and God knows how many linked to Trumpstein Island, the very famous evergreen UK popstar and indeed a very famous UK actor (the plonker's brother) etc etc . Donaldson going down isn't going to be a busting of the dam, it was just a minor speed wobble in that depraved world unfortunately

[Armagh18]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/comment/opinion/the-ruc-widow-who-saw-through-wee-jeffrey-was-her-fury-an-early-warning-sign-we-all-missed/a/157872176.html

He wasn't the first politician to be caught lying.

But the idea that someone as high profile as Donaldson and as much in the public eye can be so depraved unnerves and appals.

What we are seeking is the reassurance that paedophiles cannot move undetected among us, that we can keep children safe from them. There is none.

The guilty verdict may have brought his courageous victims a form of closure, but the trauma he inflicted when he raped a little girl, when he pushed his hands into a little girl's underwear, is a life sentence.

The reality is Donaldson, like so many abusers, was able to control and intimidate for decades. His public persona was his shield, not his undoing.

Cannot move undetected, yeah right....Kincora files sealed, 1 the president of the USA and God knows how many linked to Trumpstein Island, the very famous evergreen UK popstar and indeed a very famous UK actor (the plonker's brother) etc etc . Donaldson going down isn't going to be a busting of the dam, it was just a minor speed wobble in that depraved world unfortunately

Ah I really hope that one isn't true...

[brokencrossbar1]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/comment/opinion/the-ruc-widow-who-saw-through-wee-jeffrey-was-her-fury-an-early-warning-sign-we-all-missed/a/157872176.html

He wasn't the first politician to be caught lying.

But the idea that someone as high profile as Donaldson and as much in the public eye can be so depraved unnerves and appals.

What we are seeking is the reassurance that paedophiles cannot move undetected among us, that we can keep children safe from them. There is none.

The guilty verdict may have brought his courageous victims a form of closure, but the trauma he inflicted when he raped a little girl, when he pushed his hands into a little girl's underwear, is a life sentence.

The reality is Donaldson, like so many abusers, was able to control and intimidate for decades. His public persona was his shield, not his undoing.

Cannot move undetected, yeah right....Kincora files sealed, 1 the president of the USA and God knows how many linked to Trumpstein Island, the very famous evergreen UK popstar and indeed a very famous UK actor (the plonker's brother) etc etc . Donaldson going down isn't going to be a busting of the dam, it was just a minor speed wobble in that depraved world unfortunately

Ah I really hope that one isn't true...

A lot of rumbles over the years but he's a 'national treasure' so ye know....

[Mourne Red]

Aye there's a lot of stuff out there about Dave's Brother. Won't be out in the press until he's gone like Saville so the rumbles says

[DaleCooper]

The actual elite do what they want to whoever they want. Imagine Jeffrey Dahmer with billions, lawyers and death squads at his disposal.

[imtommygunn]

Read a lot about who people are talking about here but who knows what's true. You look at Epstein stuff, this Donaldson thing and the likes of saville stuff too. "Elites" behaving in very depraved manners. You watch the likes of that taken film and the depravity in it and you convince yourself it's fake but in reality there is probably a lot of shit like that goes on. Donaldson is small fry compared to a lot of things out there as horrendous as that is.

Question is wrt dup if he is guilty then is he the only one.

[Main Street]

I listened to the latest BelTel/indo podcast with court journo Allison Morris giving her account and also revealing some evidence which could not be reported upon previously. She offered some acute observations about Jeffrey, his arrogance, his testimony and his crash landing under expert cross examination, but offered absolutely nothing about the (alleged) evidence that the jury found enough to find Elanor guilty of such a serious crime.