Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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cjx

"Ciaran Daly, Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are going to start"?

Very weak half forward line in context to 2 pointers game do you not think?

Really shows Tyrone's problem. The old 2 big men issue. To illustrate Brian McGuigan, great as he was in his time, would not have a chance in a 2 point shoot out today in my view Look at the strength and power Armagh bring to that line today. A bunch of skinny runners won't cut it.

2ndstringsub

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.


McGarrity is a man id like to see get one of these jerseys. has he done it so far not really no but in my opinion has it in spade fulls and needs a run of game time to get into the swing of inter county. (mightn't be this weekend but needs added to squad longer term)

on the point of Brian Mcguigan no probably wouldn't run a 2 point shootout but in terms of delivering ball into 3 inside men who are small and want to win ball out in front there'd be no better man.

Another Problem with our forward play is how we use our 2 big men, regularly we see Brian and Conn taking turns inside but our lads don't seem to know how to hit them or that they've even gone in there for the most part.

bogball88

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.

Niiiiiiii we are getting to the reason

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: bogball88 on May 21, 2026, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.

Niiiiiiii we are getting to the reason
For the record I would have Seanie O'Donnell playing from wing back and my preferred half forward line would be something like Cassidy McElholm Oguz.

God14

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 22, 2026, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on May 21, 2026, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.

Niiiiiiii we are getting to the reason
For the record I would have Seanie O'Donnell playing from wing back and my preferred half forward line would be something like Cassidy McElholm Oguz.

Oguz has never done it in a Tyrone shirt. Super footballer with size and athleticism. Id probably give him another chance in there - just because of the sheer lack of options. Half forward line is such a crucial line on the field now. You need to have kick out options, and you must have a 2 point scoring threat.
Rory Gallagher mentioned last night on his Insta page how he would only play Darragh Canavan at 11. I have to say i agree with him. We dont get enough out of DC in the corner. He possesses that 2 point scoring threat, and can penetrate the defensive screen around the arc with his movement and passing ability

Id go

            N Morgan
N Devlin / A Clarke  / C Quinn
M McKernan / P Teague / S O'Donnell
       C KIlpatrick & B Kennedy
J Oguz / D Canavan / K McGeary
R Cassidy / M Donnelly / E McElholm


Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 19, 2026, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: cjx on May 18, 2026, 08:58:11 PMI would swop Clarke with Devlin and is Ruari C not fit?. If available l would play him at 12 (other side from the brother)? No word there? Prefer him to Seanie we need more scoring threat than runners there l believe. McCurry great career but l believe only 2nd half 20 min effectively in him at this level now Never strong/big enough ( Brian McGuigan exceptionnal in that regards but not for Dazzler?) or creative enough for CHF wonderful reliable scoring threat and passer inside but shied away from shots he would have scored from, in other days, in last two outings l felt.
Quote from: NotedObserver on May 17, 2026, 08:13:08 PMTyrone up next weekend

Morgan

Quinn
Teague
Devlin

Mckernan
Joey Clarke
Mcgeary

Conn
Kennedy

Seanie O'Donnell
Mcelholm
Ben McDonnell

Darragh Canavan
Mattie D
Ethan Jordan

Will they go with Cassidy, Mcelholm, r canavan at 11?

Will Ben McDonnell start again? Conor Oneill will be left for the under 20s surely?

Is there anyone who can come in defensively? No left sided free taker so will McCurry start? 
Realisitically Ciaran Daly Ronan Cassidy and Seanie O'Donnell are all going to start in the half forward line - all are well established at this stage under O'Rourke and while they come in for criticism I find it hard to see them not starting
Inside you are probably looking at Darragh Canavan and Mattie Donnelly and one of Jordan McCurry or McElholm.
Called it with O'Donnell Cassidy Daly half forward line. No Darragh is a massive blow. No Ruairi Canavan amongst the subs either is a further big loss.

ClubScene13

How light has that panel got all of a sudden

God14

Quote from: ClubScene13 on May 22, 2026, 11:47:01 AMHow light has that panel got all of a sudden

Yeah shocked at that. 3 lads yet to make a senior appearance - McHugh, McCann & McCaughey

In saying that i feel McHugh in particular should have had minutes before now.

GaelTheGael

Quote from: God14 on May 22, 2026, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on May 22, 2026, 11:47:01 AMHow light has that panel got all of a sudden

Yeah shocked at that. 3 lads yet to make a senior appearance - McHugh, McCann & McCaughey

In saying that i feel McHugh in particular should have had minutes before now.
I am shocked Ruairi McHugh is still on the panel.

cjx

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on May 22, 2026, 11:02:39 AM

There are bound to be changes b4 throw-in? Esp half-forward line 🤣😐😱.
Would love to see McHugh in put a bit of devil into it? Sad RC not available (?). Rangy Rossies could run thru that forward line. Need more power or forget it. None of HFs could be relied on to set up or get 2 point scores IMHO 🙃.Could get Mattie Donnelly a deeper roving role to help there? McElholm has too much class to be sitting at throw in!

Ballygawleyftw

Malachy somehow managed to trump Thomas Tuchel's dire 26 man squad.

DaleCooper

Quote from: Ballygawleyftw on May 22, 2026, 02:32:23 PMMalachy somehow managed to trump Thomas Tuchel's dire 26 man squad.

Who is missing that you would have in?

Jerome

Any word of what is wrong with the two Canavans

tyrone08

Quote from: Jerome on May 22, 2026, 10:18:19 PMAny word of what is wrong with the two Canavans

Said darragh is out with hip flexor and Ruairi injured. That's all they said