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[Baile Brigín 2]

Eh? My parents were born post ww2 I'm definitely along with my siblings and friends with their families have more..

I'm being anecdotal but if you've evidence I'd like to analyse it

Fair enough.

The generation behind you have it worse.

Don't give me 'they have mobile phones and X boxes'. They are much less likely to own a home, have a secure, pensionable job and get decent healthcare and a pension from the state.

Parents never owned their home, they had health care and a state pension, there is no actual evidence that the state pension will not be available or health care is going to end.

You are making stuff up, if it happens we can talk about it then.

I'm personally bored of people who live off the state who are complaining about life being hard..

Decisions are made, they are choices people make..

If you want to own a home it's within your capabilities to do so, was it easier years ago? Maybe, but owning a home doesn't define you, I still don't own 'my home'
 Will I help my kids if I can? Yep but they can help themselves first

You writing for the Daily Mail these days?

Not English or over 58, not conservative nor having right tendencies not middle class so writing for them would be against their demographic ?

You are taking the populist, evidence free route of telling the youngsters they have never had it so good because of your experience. It's pure Tory/Reform tabloid guff.

[Milltown Row2]

No one is saying inflation isn't through the roof and the price of food and other stuff is increasing but my own views are not based on what the numbers/stats are giving they are purely anecdotal, and I stated that

If we take the holiday thread on here or look at other threads people seem to be having decent lifestyles if we are to believe what's posted.

[playwiththewind1st]

My da recently made the comment that young ones have it so much better now because there are far more channels on the TV.

When I grew up, believe it or not, we had 1 black & white TV, with 3 channels on it.

With the proliferation of TV channels, 99% of them are churning out complete & utter shite, simultaneously.

More channels certainly doesn't equate to better quality.

TV, social media.....everything has dumbed down considerably; it's all low cost dross, for the most part.

That probably points to a failing educational system, whereby a lot of people nowadays simply cannot grasp any concept that requires any degree of independent thinking, wit, or intelligence. It's beyond them.

The majority of the human race appears to be regressing, at an alarming rate & it's quite scary.

[JoG2]

Eh? My parents were born post ww2 I'm definitely along with my siblings and friends with their families have more..

I'm being anecdotal but if you've evidence I'd like to analyse it

Fair enough.

The generation behind you have it worse.

Don't give me 'they have mobile phones and X boxes'. They are much less likely to own a home, have a secure, pensionable job and get decent healthcare and a pension from the state.

Parents never owned their home, they had health care and a state pension, there is no actual evidence that the state pension will not be available or health care is going to end.

You are making stuff up, if it happens we can talk about it then.

I'm personally bored of people who live off the state who are complaining about life being hard..

Decisions are made, they are choices people make..

If you want to own a home it's within your capabilities to do so, was it easier years ago? Maybe, but owning a home doesn't define you, I still don't own 'my home'
 Will I help my kids if I can? Yep but they can help themselves first

You writing for the Daily Mail these days?

Not English or over 58, not conservative nor having right tendencies not middle class so writing for them would be against their demographic ?

Your comments are straight out of their playbook. You've flipped concerns re the direction of travel for regular working folk to jibes about those on benefits, you left out the small boats, that's the other 'out'

[Genocide Organ]

My da recently made the comment that young ones have it so much better now because there are far more channels on the TV.

When I grew up, believe it or not, we had 1 black & white TV, with 3 channels on it.

With the proliferation of TV channels, 99% of them are churning out complete & utter shite, simultaneously.

More channels certainly doesn't equate to better quality.

TV, social media.....everything has dumbed down considerably; it's all low cost dross, for the most part.

That probably points to a failing educational system, whereby a lot of people nowadays simply cannot grasp any concept that requires any degree of independent thinking, wit, or intelligence. It's beyond them.

The majority of the human race appears to be regressing, at an alarming rate & it's quite scary.

All true. I would add that more channels NECESSARILY means less quality. As for the failing educational system - at primary level, certainly - it appears the most capable are held back by the slowest, esp. when you consider the amount of pupils that can't even speak English, or the disruption caused by 'behavioural difficulties' that must be mainstreamed. As for the universities - another bloated industry that churns out basically meaningless degrees.

[Milltown Row2]

Eh? My parents were born post ww2 I'm definitely along with my siblings and friends with their families have more..

I'm being anecdotal but if you've evidence I'd like to analyse it

Fair enough.

The generation behind you have it worse.

Don't give me 'they have mobile phones and X boxes'. They are much less likely to own a home, have a secure, pensionable job and get decent healthcare and a pension from the state.

Parents never owned their home, they had health care and a state pension, there is no actual evidence that the state pension will not be available or health care is going to end.

You are making stuff up, if it happens we can talk about it then.

I'm personally bored of people who live off the state who are complaining about life being hard..

Decisions are made, they are choices people make..

If you want to own a home it's within your capabilities to do so, was it easier years ago? Maybe, but owning a home doesn't define you, I still don't own 'my home'
 Will I help my kids if I can? Yep but they can help themselves first

You writing for the Daily Mail these days?

Not English or over 58, not conservative nor having right tendencies not middle class so writing for them would be against their demographic ?

Your comments are straight out of their playbook. You've flipped concerns re the direction of travel for regular working folk to jibes about those on benefits, you left out the small boats, that's the other 'out'

So your world reset fix is what?

[JoG2]

Eh? My parents were born post ww2 I'm definitely along with my siblings and friends with their families have more..

I'm being anecdotal but if you've evidence I'd like to analyse it

Fair enough.

The generation behind you have it worse.

Don't give me 'they have mobile phones and X boxes'. They are much less likely to own a home, have a secure, pensionable job and get decent healthcare and a pension from the state.

Parents never owned their home, they had health care and a state pension, there is no actual evidence that the state pension will not be available or health care is going to end.

You are making stuff up, if it happens we can talk about it then.

I'm personally bored of people who live off the state who are complaining about life being hard..

Decisions are made, they are choices people make..

If you want to own a home it's within your capabilities to do so, was it easier years ago? Maybe, but owning a home doesn't define you, I still don't own 'my home'
 Will I help my kids if I can? Yep but they can help themselves first

You writing for the Daily Mail these days?

Not English or over 58, not conservative nor having right tendencies not middle class so writing for them would be against their demographic ?

Your comments are straight out of their playbook. You've flipped concerns re the direction of travel for regular working folk to jibes about those on benefits, you left out the small boats, that's the other 'out'

So your world reset fix is what?

My reward for pointing out that you are talking out your back end is to fix the problem...that's in keeping with things alright, completely unfair 

[LC]

My da recently made the comment that young ones have it so much better now because there are far more channels on the TV.

When I grew up, believe it or not, we had 1 black & white TV, with 3 channels on it.

With the proliferation of TV channels, 99% of them are churning out complete & utter shite, simultaneously.

More channels certainly doesn't equate to better quality.

TV, social media.....everything has dumbed down considerably; it's all low cost dross, for the most part.

That probably points to a failing educational system, whereby a lot of people nowadays simply cannot grasp any concept that requires any degree of independent thinking, wit, or intelligence. It's beyond them.

The majority of the human race appears to be regressing, at an alarming rate & it's quite scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWK_DN1zoK4

A sad reflection on parts of the UK today who no doubt are / will grow up thinking the likes of Farage will fix everything for them.  Their world stops and ends in Grimsby so if there are no jobs will then that's it, no point trying at school or no pointing looking for a job.  The idea of moving away to somewhere to get a job is not even on their radar.

[Wildweasel74]

Still remember when ch4 came on 82? and maybe round 1997 Ch5 with the Spice girls opening.

[imtommygunn]

The irony is a lot of this a protest vote because things are a bit shit. Brexit has done a lot to increase the shitness. Who is responsible for Brexit - the clown who leads the party they're voting for

[playwiththewind1st]

They wouldn't look in the next street for work, let alone move away.

The current drill is attend school, until 16 -universal credits for 50 odd years - pension credits for the rest of your life [although school attendance figures are plummeting].

Society has created this dependency / something for nothing / world owes me a living culture, which will be very difficult to turn back.

Labour certainly don't have the balls to do it.

[marty34]

Brexit has resulted in a 20% increase in our electric prices.

[playwiththewind1st]

The irony is a lot of this a protest vote because things are a bit shit. Brexit has done a lot to increase the shitness. Who is responsible for Brexit - the clown who leads the party they're voting for

Yes....but 10 years is a long time ago now, so the thicko little Englanders have totally forgotten that Farage promised them the land of milk & honey, if they would only vote for Brexit and they voted for his nonsense again last week, in their droves. Farage makes all the right noises & the braindead go out and vote the way that he & his Thai crypto backer want them to.

[Baile Brigín 2]

No one is saying inflation isn't through the roof and the price of food and other stuff is increasing but my own views are not based on what the numbers/stats are giving they are purely anecdotal, and I stated that

If we take the holiday thread on here or look at other threads people seem to be having decent lifestyles if we are to believe what's posted.

But that is down to technology- you can get to Spain for €30.

But the 20 somethings are still likely live at home and have gig economy jobs in a much more volatile world.

[Wildweasel74]

Holidays, credit carded to the gils