The UK Labour Party

[Milltown Row2]

By some of these comments you'd nearly think Starmer was doing a good job. Britain's taxation levels are at 60 year high yet services continue to crumble. That's on him. Labour have been in power for 2 years with a massive majority and in that time have achieved sweet f**k all.

Nothing to do with "decent people" or "blaming Starmer". He has quite clearly led a useless government.

He has and so will the next and the next and the next, as it's been for a long time.

[Wildweasel74]

Man too worried about his Israel buddies to see whats going on round him.

[playwiththewind1st]

The political classes aren't just part of the problem, they are the problem.

Being a politician nowadays is just a job, to many of them. Look around the benches at Westminster, or Stormont & all you see are a bunch of completely anonymous backbench MPs or MLAs, none of whom have an original thought in their heads. They're just voting fodder & clones of each other.

How you can come straight out of university [preferably Oxford or Cambridge] & automatically become some politician's "special adviser" totally baffles me, although it seems to put the time in rightly, until you can acquire a safe seat in a legislature.

Most politicians nowadays seem to confuse posting absolutely stupid & inane pictures of themselves on their social media accounts with actually doing something concrete. Other than that, there's little engagement with people, which accounts for the fact that they don't know what's going on in the world around them.

[seafoid]

The economic system is dying. Politicians wor gmfot the riich SFA gets done otmr is over budget.
Casement, A5, dublin airport metro

[playwiththewind1st]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

[Milltown Row2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

[seafoid]

The economy had 3 heart attacks on 2020, 2022band last year..

Productiviity is low as are pay rises and growth. We have stagnation and inflation is back on the way up.50 families in the UK have the same amount of wealth as 34 million peoplem

[thewobbler]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

We are largely being excluded from opportunity.

[Milltown Row2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

We are largely being excluded from opportunity.

You're being excluded for a few reasons..

Generational wealth, being allowed to fail and have the background to go again. Ties to society that will let you in, entrepreneurship, the ability to be successful in doing something that brings success, the above things (where you were born)  also accelerates that.

Unless you were born with the silver spoon stuck up your arse then you have to work at it, that's life, always been people that have had it handed to them and they are able to generate more wealth. Though some just piss it away

The grunts in life (95% of us) have to accept we have to achieve things differently, there's no leg up there's no quick way of getting there.

Communism doesn't work either, so sharing the wealth has never worked.

So, work ethic, healthy work balance and expectations come about to produce/provide what you're happy with.

You want more, then work for it. Complaining about something outta your control isn't going to fix it, this is a millennia problem.

So what are YOU being excluded from and why?

[thewobbler]

I'll try it differently MR2.

We're being excluded now from the opportunity that the past few generations enjoyed.

I fully understand that 95% of us have to grunt to make the world turn.

But here's the thing. Our parents and grandparents spoiled us: prosperity allowed them make us believe that life was getting easier. But between them, big business and shitty government, they've united to create a more stressful world, one in which wages are reserved for rent, heat and light, and subsistence; whilst savings are a dream.

For most of us, opportunity  is related to financial freedom. That's what's going or gone.

[JoG2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

Is this a serious question ? Maybe you're fine and dandy but a huge (and increasing percentage) are not, far from it.
Poverty on the rise, housing crisis galore, wages sitting still for years for folk as prices for everything sky rocket, health a shit show, the absolute need for food banks for huge numbers in employment  etc etc

[Tony Baloney]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

Is this a serious question ? Maybe you're fine and dandy but a huge (and increasing percentage) are not, far from it.
Poverty on the rise, housing crisis galore, wages sitting still for years for folk as prices for everything sky rocket, health a shit show, the absolute need for food banks for huge numbers in employment  etc etc

Have the people in Britain not noticed that snakeoil salesmen of the right haven't ridden to the rescue of the downtrodden white man in the US or anywhere else. What they have done is fill their own bank accounts and Farage and his ilk are no different. Voting for Reform is clearly a protest vote, but I'd rather have the Tories than that crowd! Starmer is a busted flush and needs to be gone before the next GE campaign starts. The only thing we say him get energised about in his tenure to date is setting up protection forces for Jews.

[Milltown Row2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

Is this a serious question ? Maybe you're fine and dandy but a huge (and increasing percentage) are not, far from it.
Poverty on the rise, housing crisis galore, wages sitting still for years for folk as prices for everything sky rocket, health a shit show, the absolute need for food banks for huge numbers in employment  etc etc

We are living better than our parents

There is plenty employment, people just don't want to work

Minimum wage is far better than when I started

Peoples needs are greater because of social expectations

I grew up with no home phone, everyone 'needs' a mobile now, or a  car, 9 of us living in a three bedroom terrace house, one parent working.

Health services are worse I'll agree to that, that's been poor mismanagement growing population no ability to match the influx

Look my point is this, life is as dandy as ya want..

[JoG2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

Is this a serious question ? Maybe you're fine and dandy but a huge (and increasing percentage) are not, far from it.
Poverty on the rise, housing crisis galore, wages sitting still for years for folk as prices for everything sky rocket, health a shit show, the absolute need for food banks for huge numbers in employment  etc etc

Have the people in Britain not noticed that snakeoil salesmen of the right haven't ridden to the rescue of the downtrodden white man in the US or anywhere else. What they have done is fill their own bank accounts and Farage and his ilk are no different. Voting for Reform is clearly a protest vote, but I'd rather have the Tories than that crowd! Starmer is a busted flush and needs to be gone before the next GE campaign starts. The only thing we say him get energised about in his tenure to date is setting up protection forces for Jews.

Starmer is country mile above being an absolute disappointment. 14 years of Tories and then this Zionist cretin comes along.
Who's the next knight in shining armour, a man of the people Andy Burnham, no, another Israeli puppet.
Imagine a world with a semi impartial media, what a difference that would make , you know , holding people to account.

It was said a while back that these political ideology windows go in cycles, I'm not so sure this time tbh, the absolute vice grip billionaire's have on print , TV and social media and politicians, it's depressing stuff.. definitely worth trying your best to switch off from it

[JoG2]

Alternatively, the neoliberal economic system is working absolutely fine & as was intended all along. The billionaires, oligarchs, cartels & corporations have hoovered up & bought up all of the politicians. The politicians then award them all of the government contracts that are going. Start the odd war or 2, to keep the military/industrial complex happy. Everyone who matters does exceptionally well out of the deal. The only people getting excluded are the ordinary punters.

So the question is what are you being excluded from? As in the ordinary punters?

Is this a serious question ? Maybe you're fine and dandy but a huge (and increasing percentage) are not, far from it.
Poverty on the rise, housing crisis galore, wages sitting still for years for folk as prices for everything sky rocket, health a shit show, the absolute need for food banks for huge numbers in employment  etc etc

We are living better than our parents

There is plenty employment, people just don't want to work

Minimum wage is far better than when I started

Peoples needs are greater because of social expectations

I grew up with no home phone, everyone 'needs' a mobile now, or a  car, 9 of us living in a three bedroom terrace house, one parent working.

Health services are worse I'll agree to that, that's been poor mismanagement growing population no ability to match the influx

Look my point is this, life is as dandy as ya want..

Really, so millions forced into the choice of 'heat or eat' just don't realise or understand how to implement the dandy theory 🫡