Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[thebigfullforward]

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

But the u20 players are club players?

And clubs have been totally against playing without their u20 players.

Would it be prioritising club players to force them to play ACL games without their best players for 4/5 rounds, increasing likelihood of relegation/missing out on promotion?

Teams are already doing that which is what the starred games mean incase you didn't realise.
Some teams have county players and agree to play on without them even with the fixtures being played against teams with 0 county players, all being held up because some teams have a few 20s and 0 senior players, if u20s are the teams "best players" then they have no hope of surviving anyhow. Just something to cry over.

Would you not say McElholm and McCullagh were at least 2 of the top 4 best players for Loughmacrory last year?

[RedHand88]

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).

Blame the clubs, they refuse to play without their u20 players.

Going by our U20 form the last few years, you'd almost need to integrate them into the starred system or have a seperate way to manage Clubs with multiple players at that level to allow ACL to proceed earlier.

Tyrone are aiming to win a 4th all Ireland title in the last 5 years at u20 level and there's some Tyrone folk complaining because it results in the acl being delayed a few weeks. Most counties would kill to be in that situation.

Blame the county board - the club players are now against u20s winning which is the truth. Its not ideal but that's the way its turned out. The club players should be giving priority in this scenario...

But the u20 players are club players?

And clubs have been totally against playing without their u20 players.

Would it be prioritising club players to force them to play ACL games without their best players for 4/5 rounds, increasing likelihood of relegation/missing out on promotion?

Teams are already doing that which is what the starred games mean incase you didn't realise.
Some teams have county players and agree to play on without them even with the fixtures being played against teams with 0 county players, all being held up because some teams have a few 20s and 0 senior players, if u20s are the teams "best players" then they have no hope of surviving anyhow. Just something to cry over.

Why? Do you think every senior team is just 28 year olds? Didn't the Lough win the championship with kids?

[2ndstringsub]

What are the county board playing at..

Reserve fixtures cancelled now until the league starts we had a bus booked at the beginning of the week to travel the length of the county for our reserve players.

Then we are expected to re-organise all those same bits if the u-20s are beat tonight.

Weathers good ground firming up and lads eager to get out and play and they pull the pin because someone who likely wont attend or be participating with reserves has decided so.

Don't worry though there will be plenty of football come august when teams are expected to play 3 games in 9 days etc. as done in years previous.

I thought the idea of getting reserves underway was to fill out squads come latter end of the year, but decisions like this show its just another flash in the pan half thought out idea.

The lack of common sense in Garvaghy is nothing short of astonishing.

[thewobbler]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

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If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

[2ndstringsub]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

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If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

We have already started reserve leagues. I have no issue with not playing senior football until the 20's are done as I understand smaller clubs are at a greater risk when their players are on these panels.

I understand its the outside looking in so ill explain. for the past few years we have played off a few reserve fixtures before the senior league starts usually rounds 16-13 or something to that effect. after this fixtures are played out 1-16 with both groups of players having their 6:45 and 8:00 throw ins respectively. This means that come the end of the year you have a full panel to choose from for senior rounds 13-16 reserves included.

In my opinion this had been a good idea with the odd team having the misfortune of travelling a long distance away twice in the season. But thats luck of the draw.

I've just had a look at the Tyrone leagues across all divisions and the only team to concede over the first 2 weeks was Moy GAC. I also have it on authority from a Clonoe player that they played a friendly against Clonoe just 2 days before they were due to welcome Derryloughan to Magee Park.

If anyone is able to say that one club namely Moy in this case is holding the county board to ransom we are all well and truly fucked.

[ClubScene13]

Does it sound like going every Friday night once the Under 20's campaign is over? Or would you be looking at week on week off sort of scenario for a while trying to stall it a bit until Senior campaign ends?

[GlenMan]

What are the county board playing at..

Reserve fixtures cancelled now until the league starts we had a bus booked at the beginning of the week to travel the length of the county for our reserve players.

Then we are expected to re-organise all those same bits if the u-20s are beat tonight.

Weathers good ground firming up and lads eager to get out and play and they pull the pin because someone who likely wont attend or be participating with reserves has decided so.

Don't worry though there will be plenty of football come august when teams are expected to play 3 games in 9 days etc. as done in years previous.

I thought the idea of getting reserves underway was to fill out squads come latter end of the year, but decisions like this show its just another flash in the pan half thought out idea.

The lack of common sense in Garvaghy is nothing short of astonishing.

The reserve league isn't cancelled until the league starts, don't know where you heard that?

There are no games this Friday because the minor league was moved to Thursday (so it doesn't clash with the U20 final on Wednesday as previously scheduled). Therefore it wouldn't be fair to ask those lads that play both minor and Senior to play twice in two days.

The reserve and Senior 3A continues again from next Friday so only skipping this weekend.

[W.A.G. Lover]

Does it sound like going every Friday night once the Under 20's campaign is over? Or would you be looking at week on week off sort of scenario for a while trying to stall it a bit until Senior campaign ends?

Assuming the u-20 losing Wednesday and leagues starting Friday 8th May, see below a quick programme of fixtures - Everything would knock on by 1 week for every further game they win - Also creating a fixture congestion in July/August.

Below is based upon the senior team reaching the All-Ireland QF stage - I cant imagine Malachy allowing players to play club football with only 15 days to a potential round 1 fixture.

I have round 15 sitting in weekend of 4th September, but realistically this will be a double weekend in August id guess. There is potential for turning round 8 into a starred fixture and could fit another game in June.

This is all based upon u-20 losing Wednesday and seniors reaching QF. Any further advancement for both teams, will knock this plan on by 1 week which will create huge congestion in August.

Week Ending         Sam Maguire         ACL         Note
08/05/2026                     Round 1      Starred
15/05/2026                     Round 2      Starred
22/05/2026         Round 1                 Round 3      Starred
29/05/2026         Round 1                 Round 4      Starred
05/06/2026                     Round 5      Starred
12/06/2026         Round 2A/B         Round 6      Starred
19/06/2026         Round 3                 Round 7      Starred
26/06/2026         QF      
03/07/2026                     Break   
10/07/2026         SF            Break   
17/07/2026                     Round 8   
24/07/2026         Final            Round 9   
31/07/2026                     Round 10   
07/08/2026                     Round 11   
14/08/2026                     Round 12   
21/08/2026                     Round 13   
28/08/2026                     Round 14   
04/09/2026                     Round 15

[In hiding]

Does it sound like going every Friday night once the Under 20's campaign is over? Or would you be looking at week on week off sort of scenario for a while trying to stall it a bit until Senior campaign ends?

Assuming the u-20 losing Wednesday and leagues starting Friday 8th May, see below a quick programme of fixtures - Everything would knock on by 1 week for every further game they win - Also creating a fixture congestion in July/August.

Below is based upon the senior team reaching the All-Ireland QF stage - I cant imagine Malachy allowing players to play club football with only 15 days to a potential round 1 fixture.

I have round 15 sitting in weekend of 4th September, but realistically this will be a double weekend in August id guess. There is potential for turning round 8 into a starred fixture and could fit another game in June.

This is all based upon u-20 losing Wednesday and seniors reaching QF. Any further advancement for both teams, will knock this plan on by 1 week which will create huge congestion in August.

Week Ending         Sam Maguire         ACL         Note
08/05/2026                     Round 1      Starred
15/05/2026                     Round 2      Starred
22/05/2026         Round 1                 Round 3      Starred
29/05/2026         Round 1                 Round 4      Starred
05/06/2026                     Round 5      Starred
12/06/2026         Round 2A/B         Round 6      Starred
19/06/2026         Round 3                 Round 7      Starred
26/06/2026         QF      
03/07/2026                     Break   
10/07/2026         SF            Break   
17/07/2026                     Round 8   
24/07/2026         Final            Round 9   
31/07/2026                     Round 10   
07/08/2026                     Round 11   
14/08/2026                     Round 12   
21/08/2026                     Round 13   
28/08/2026                     Round 14   
04/09/2026                     Round 15

I agree, I think the window to allow county players play with their clubs closed when the u 20s beat Derry

[ClubScene13]

Thanks WAG - even your program there has a month off between round 7 and 8 which had me thinking of possible week on week off situation at the start of the league. I don't envy them, impossible to plan around two county teams where you have no idea on how well they'll do.

You have the other potential issue of Tyrone going out when we've only played a few league games, really puts that starred/nonstarred 2 points for a win / 3 points for a win issue in the spotlight, safer not worrying about that until it happens for it sounds like a mess already

[RouskyRanger]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

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If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

[GlenMan]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

——

If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

[Sean Og Patriots]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

——

If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

So edendork, eglish, errigal ciaran and a few others have put complaints in about the fixtures? Cant be changed as "not enough time".

Whos in control now?

[GlenMan]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

——

If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

So edendork, eglish, errigal ciaran and a few others have put complaints in about the fixtures? Cant be changed as "not enough time".

Whos in control now?

There hasn't been a county committee meeting since that letter. If a majority vote for change at the next meeting then it will be changed.

[Sean Og Patriots]

From the outside looking in, Garvaghy isn't the problem here.

I would see it as a case of the clubs sacking the fire brigade, setting their senior football leagues on fire, then pointing the finger of blame at any firemen who actually try to help.

——

If clubs are unwilling to play club league football without u20 players, there is no solution available. None.

So what happens if the clubs just decide we dont want to play games without our senior county men? Would they postpone them until Tyrone get kncked out or would they'll tell them to suck it up... always a solution if the right heads are thinking, unfortunately i think theres a few up in Garvaghy spend to much time looking at the windmills

I don't think you're aware of the decision making process for county boards.

The county committee, comprised of a delegate from each club, make the final call on everything.

So yes, if the clubs via their delegate wanted the league postponed until the County season was over, and voted for that, then that would happen. No question.

It's the county committee that voted to go up to 7 starred games this year etc. The clubs are in control.

So edendork, eglish, errigal ciaran and a few others have put complaints in about the fixtures? Cant be changed as "not enough time".

Whos in control now?

There hasn't been a county committee meeting since that letter. If a majority vote for change at the next meeting then it will be changed.

The teams mentioned above by myself are minority in this case as they are lucky to have a numbers of senior players, something they should be very proud of. Not one team facing these times will vote for a re-jig of fixtures due to their chances of winning / staying in division 1 will be decreased by facing the teams subject to this punishment at the end of the season (with their full squad).