Hurling 2026

[Podge72]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

9 of the Tipp team who faced Cork Sunday have 2 or more All ireland medals

4 have 3

And 1 has 4

Outside of Limerick no other county has that and yours definitely doesn't

[mouview]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

[EoinW]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012.  The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.

[Podge72]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012.  The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.

Jesus wept Galway could have won the all ireland as early as 2012

Definitely dark maroon glasses on there

And it will be news to those in Tipp that they played Galway in the 1988 All Ireland Semifinal

[Podge72]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Galway have won 1 all ireland in the last 38 years

In the same time Tipp have won 7

I think when it comes down to bottle jobs the Tipp crowd are in a better place

Galway won their all ireland in 2017 bet tipp by a point in the semi and were more than lucky to be facing Waterford in a final who are still waiting to win an all ireland since 1959

It would have been a different story if they had been facing one of the traditional powers who know how to win an all ireland final day

[seafoid]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Galway have won 1 all ireland in the last 38 years

In the same time Tipp have won 7

I think when it comes down to bottle jobs the Tipp crowd are in a better place

Galway won their all ireland in 2017 bet tipp by a point in the semi and were more than lucky to be facing Waterford in a final who are still waiting to win an all ireland since 1959

It would have been a different story if they had been facing one of the traditional powers who know how to win an all ireland final day

Cork don't know how to win a final and haven't won since 2005
Kilkenny were at the beginning of a slump that started the year before after the end of their great team 2006-15
Tipp can't seem to do 2 in a row and had won in 2016. galway beat them in the semi final . The Joe Canning point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adN9lpH3bas

The 2 best teams 2015-17 imo

So I don't know who could have beaten them in 2017

[EoinW]

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Jesus wept Galway could have won the all ireland as early as 2012

Definitely dark maroon glasses on there

And it will be news to those in Tipp that they played Galway in the 1988 All Ireland Semifinal


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Oops! 1989.  Rotten keyboard.

Would you believe I was testing you?

[seafoid]

It confirmed what we knew already. Tipperary are the worst team to win the All Ireland since colour television.
That's not much comfort for Cork right now though.

There's a few clueless eejits on this thread but congrats son,you've outed yourself as the biggest one

Tipp beat the Leinster Munster and League champions to win the All Ireland last year and inflicted Corks second biggest defeat in an All Ireland final ever

A 15 point defeat

Only bested by a 16 point defeat inflicted by Limerick in 2021

Worst champions me bollix

How about

Wexford 1996 who beat a Limerick team who shit the togs 2 years previously against Offaly

Clare 2013 who got lucky in the off year between the decade dominance of tipp and kk and who gave us the worst defence of an all ireland before Clare 2024 came along

Or galway 2017 who bet a Waterford team who since the round robin started in 2018 have finished in the 6 runnings,bottom 4 times and second bottom twice,the same galway team who bottled it v Limerick the following year.

Regardless of final opposition, Galway were clearly the best team in the land in 2017, and one of the best for the preceding 4-5 years. There was no shame in losing by a point in 2018 to a Limerick team who have dominated in the years since. Implying Galway bottled it that year is like saying Tipp' bottled it every year following an All-Ireland success.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Afraid there is inconsistency of logic.  Galway is a candidate for worst champion because their final opponent was a weak Waterford side, yet last year Tipp defeated their opponent by 15 points and that statistically much weaker opponent makes Tipp a great champion?  Question: Does KK destroying Limerick and Waterford 2 decades ago make them a great champion or one of the worst?

2013 was a remarkable year.  Limerick surprising in Munster and Dublin's amazing Leinster championship.  It's a shame the pair couldn't have made it to the final.  I still wonder about Dublin, if it hadn't been for that red card before halftime against Cork...

Clare were fortunate to get to a replay in 2013, thanks to a fantastic point at the end.  Then Shane O'Donnell did a Walter Walsh impersonation.  A tough loss for Cork to swallow.

As pointed out Galway was building towards their 2017 title(team of the decade?) and could easily have won the AI as early as 2012. The next year they got beat up over two tough games against Clare and took two key injuries into the final, including Joe Canning playing hurt.

I'm surprised by the omission of Tipperary 1988.  Remember that embarrassment of a SF against Galway with the most biased officiating I've ever seen?  Now that is one championship candidate for most tainted win.

Easy way to solve this controversy: have the two provincial champions go directly to the AI final.  That would have left time for a Munster Final Replay last year.

Galway didn't have the right manager in 2012 and 2015
Kilkenny had the psychological advantage.

[seafoid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owjMYhS25og

[marty34]

No Gillane for Limerick at the week-end V Cork.

I'm sure Cork will be delighted.

He'll miss Clare game also.

[johnnycool]

No Gillane for Limerick at the week-end V Cork.

I'm sure Cork will be delighted.

He'll miss Clare game also.

Time for the bull to step up. Will Peter Casey start alongside him?

it also might highlight the letting of Séamus Flanagan go, so Kiely must believe he's enough strength to cover those types of roles.

[mouview]

Casey for Gillane is fairly like-for-like, and won't weaken the team hugely. Of greater concern to Kiely should be the form of O'Connor and O'Brien, both of whom haven't been in great form in recent games. The bookies have it very close, but even with Gillane I'd be leaning towards Cork anyway.

[johnnycool]

Casey for Gillane is fairly like-for-like, and won't weaken the team hugely. Of greater concern to Kiely should be the form of O'Connor and O'Brien, both of whom haven't been in great form in recent games. The bookies have it very close, but even with Gillane I'd be leaning towards Cork anyway.

Peter Casey doesn't have the physicality of Guillane who the Cork defence just can't cope with.
O'Brien has the physicality, just not the game smarts of Guillane and that's what sets Guillane apart.

Guillane is as cute a forward you will get, with all his flicks etc, but there's also a bit of a dog in him, he'll resort to the dark arts if needs be.
What Guillane is really good at is quickly changing his mind, look how he responds to a defender slipping, super quick to spot the opportunity and go for it. That takes focus, composure and smarts.

His absence may well swing the game Corks way.

How the Cork new boys fare down the other end against O'Donoghue, Hayes and Byrnes will also be intriguing.

[marty34]

The second round games have a lot more at skake than the first round games. Lose the first one and it's literally knock out in the next one.

Kilkenny will feel the heat this week-end in NP. They need a win, any type of win! They seem a bit hesitant and unsure for whatever reason. I was very disappointed with the V Galway. I think they need to go back to basics V Waterford. Work hard and keep it simple.  Usually not much between these two teams.  I think KK have very little coming off the bench. That's a big issue.

Dublin were lucky to get a point in Tullamore. Burke's effort, 8 times out of 10, would have went wide. This game V Kildare should see them come good. Looking further ahead, I think they'll beat KK in PP later in the season.

Kildare held Wexford in the first half but got overrun a bit in the second half. The Boran lads are good hurlers, so is Keegan up top. I remember him playing CR hurling not so long ago. Be great if they could stay in the Leinster Championship butthey'll be up against it - especially as Offaly have already 1 point on the board.

Funny how Naas supply 8 players to Kildare's first 15 - with another 2 on the bench for good measure. That club has put in some work over the last 10years+. I think they need a few more senior clubs to build on their recent success. But they have been a great success story this past few years.

Offaly put a huge effort V Dublin so I think they'll find it tough V Galway. They invested some energy and skill and were the better team but didn't get the result they should have got. Galway's young guns were very good V KK. Can they repeat the dose V Offaly.

Picking 3 out of Leinster is tricky.     

 

[marty34]

Whoever loses between Waterford and Tipperary will be in bother. No doubt about that. As above, second game in round robin after a defeat is basically a knock out game. This Walsh Park clash is no different.

As a stat, I think Waterford's percentage win rate at home in the round robins is under 30%. Not great although Walsh Park was being fixed up, they missed a few home games there. But still not a great return. In a lot of sports, it's important to win your home games.

Waterford hit a good score V Clare...but so did Clare. Take Bennett's 3-12 out of it and scores were thin on the ground for the other Déise lads. Quite obvious, but they need more help for Bennett. Bennett is some operator. I always used to think he was too greedy but after hearing stories of how much pain he be's in after games and his hip issues, I give him a by ball.   Need Jamie Barron to hit 4 or 5 points from play. Lyons needs to trouble the scoreboard also.

In a way, it's ironic that Bennett got MOTM for scoring goals but I thought Nolan was unreal in goals for Waterford. Only for him, Clare could have scored 3 more. I was at a Fitzgibbon game a few years ago and Nolan was playing at No. 6 (iirc). A good outfield player too.


Tipp seemed to be at the pitch of the game V Cork last Sunday. Tynan's goal helped the scoreboard look a bit closer but I thought Cork were always in control. They set the tone in a period early in the second half. Then Tipp were playing catch up.


I'm really interested to see how Tipp go in Walsh Park. It should be intense. They'll need more from Morris and Mc Grath. I think they'll get goals but how many? Ronan Maher wasn't mentioned much V Cork but he done an excellent job on Hayes. I always think of Tipp as having hard workers in the middle third and having the main finishers inside. Will D. Mc Carthy come in?

Probably wrong, but I'm going for Waterford. Based on I don't know what only that there's usually a big game in them.


Moving onto Cork V Limerick.  Main news is no Gillane. I'd say Casey will come in and float about. I really rate Casey. A few years ago he hit about 5pts early in final and then went off with ACL. Was on his way to MOTM. Losing Gillane will be a blow obviously but with Limerick, it's all about the system. The nice moving triangles and creating space.

They might have to hit 30pts from out the field. They are capable of this. But Cork now may think now with no Gillane option inside that they can push up the field a bit and close down them 'out-the-field' shooting options.

Limerick have the two Morrisseys to come in as well as O'Dalaigh. I was impressed with Hugh Flanagan for their U20's, in their defeat to Waterford during the week. He stood out so maybe an option from the bench.

Cork will be happy to have two points on the board - away from home against the AI Champions and with their performance. They did what they had to do. Now for the big one - they could still meet again a few more times but the next game between them is always the most important.

My key area about Cork is their free taking. This may be an issue that could bother them later in the year. O'Mahony is ok and Barret is ok but they're, so far in my opinion, not 9 out of 10 free takers. Declan Dalton who I thought would be automatic seems o have slipped well down the pecking order with Ben O'Connor. Fitzgibbon can hit them also but again, not consistent yet. Free taking is so important, at any level in hurling. Most teams have their 65m up free taker and another one at half back. These are a must for any team nowadays, especially at inter-county level. I don't think Cork have tht yet.

I'll think it'll be a draw.