UK/North economy

[Milltown Row2]

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things

Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level

No, neither are right, if we all took the same attitude where do you think the place would be?

[seafoid]

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things

Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level

No, neither are right, if we all took the same attitude where do you think the place would be?

Even if everyone in the occupied territories cooked the books it wouldn't make a difference.You could fit 50 families into one of your "leisure centres" . They have more money than the rest of England North of Luton. That is the problem. Focusing on what your local scumbags do is missing the point.

[Milltown Row2]

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things

Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level

No, neither are right, if we all took the same attitude where do you think the place would be?

Even if everyone in the occupied territories cooked the books it wouldn't make a difference.You could fit 50 families into one of your "leisure centres" . They have more money than the rest of England North of Luton. That is the problem. Focusing on what your local scumbags do is missing the point.

Again, start a thread in the 50 families please. Start a thread about how the government can take their money.

But save me the shite, are you saying take their money and give it to the dolers?

[trileacman]

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things

Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level

No, neither are right, if we all took the same attitude where do you think the place would be?

Even if everyone in the occupied territories cooked the books it wouldn't make a difference.You could fit 50 families into one of your "leisure centres" . They have more money than the rest of England North of Luton. That is the problem. Focusing on what your local scumbags do is missing the point.

Again, start a thread in the 50 families please. Start a thread about how the government can take their money.

But save me the shite, are you saying take their money and give it to the dolers?

This shite about the top 50 families too. Consider NI on its own, would the economy suddenly start to work if Stormont seized the wealth of Norbrook, Dimplex, Euro Auctions and Ovo Energy. Of course not.

I can't see how anyone could argue that the top 5 wealthiest people in NI are the problem with the economy or that they owe their wealth due to a closeness to the political class in London.

[seafoid]

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You get growth when the money is spread around. You don't get growth when a small group hoards all the money. This is the problem with Unionists. They are loyal to a system that fucks them.

And when the money is spread around the music is better too.

[seafoid]

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things

Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level

No, neither are right, if we all took the same attitude where do you think the place would be?

Even if everyone in the occupied territories cooked the books it wouldn't make a difference.You could fit 50 families into one of your "leisure centres" . They have more money than the rest of England North of Luton. That is the problem. Focusing on what your local scumbags do is missing the point.

Again, start a thread in the 50 families please. Start a thread about how the government can take their money.

But save me the shite, are you saying take their money and give it to the dolers?

The thread is about the UK/North economy. The key feature of the economy is that 50 families control as much wealth as 34m people.

I read this week that the North has a budget overspend of 80m or so and has to be bailed out by London. The regime can't generate economic growth. Neither can Rachel Reeves. They are pulling on levers that don't work.

[Wildweasel74]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

[Tony Baloney]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

Company and private lease hire/HP etc. more popular than ever.

[marty34]

I think we'll not see the full outworkings of this 'conflict' in the Middle East until Halloween time and on into Christmas.

[Mario]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

Company and private lease hire/HP etc. more popular than ever.

You still need to be able to service the loan or lease

[Tony Baloney]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

Company and private lease hire/HP etc. more popular than ever.

You still need to be able to service the loan or lease

Keeping up with the Joneses is worth a little pain elsewhere for a lot of people

[armaghniac]

Keeping up with the Joneses is worth a little pain elsewhere for a lot of people

[RedHand88]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

Range rovers, holidays to Dubai, botox, mounjaro, 60inch TVs. All of them everywhere.

[LC]

For all the poorness in the country, i never seen as many people driving fancy cars. Where i live, more than half the houses are rented out but top range Audi,BMW, jeeps etc.

Range rovers, holidays to Dubai, botox, mounjaro, 60inch TVs. All of them everywhere.

I remember when the the BMW X5 and Q7 came out, a big purchase at the time but when you look back they were a standard model.  Now everyone seems to be the X drive / Quattro version and pimped within an inch of it's life.

If I traded my current wagon in I would not get £1000 for it as it has over 200k miles but I have 18 months left on my mortgage so happy enough I have got my priorities right.

[johnnycool]

Reform it is

Who? Lads like Tice who don't pay their taxes...

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/2045788070012653903

Every bit as bad as those scroungers on DLA etc ripping us off.

I don't understand What  you mean by "us"

The north  (and Britain ) wouldn't be  in any better state if they  got rid of all DLA claimants.  It's an easy thing to blame the state of the place  on a few who might be fraudulently claiming benefits when they're always  seems to an endless pot of  money  for wars

The "us" is tax payers, especially PAYE as there's no loopholes available to you.