UK/North economy

Started by seafoid, April 15, 2026, 08:15:20 AM

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playwiththewind1st

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2026, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on April 19, 2026, 03:56:54 PMOur revenge will be the laughter of our very well fed children, all paid for by the Brits.

You spelt fags and beer wrongly

I presume you really meant to say "glue, coke, ketamine & chips".

Milltown Row2

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on April 19, 2026, 06:51:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2026, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on April 19, 2026, 03:56:54 PMOur revenge will be the laughter of our very well fed children, all paid for by the Brits.

You spelt fags and beer wrongly

I presume you really meant to say "glue, coke, ketamine & chips".

Possibly!

When it's intrenched it's difficult to get out off, this coming from a Westie! to be fair there were plenty working, though they worked and claimed lol!

We talk about education but in the thick of it, it's nearly as bad on both sides in those areas of lower east west and north Belfast.

Instead of showing people how to claim for things they should be showing people how to apply for jobs, his to get on further education course to get better jobs

I've no answers to fix this but it's not going to happen in my life time unless some maverick government gets in a blows it all up!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

bennydorano


Milltown Row2

Quote from: bennydorano on April 19, 2026, 07:18:27 PMReform it is

Ones over here (unionists ) won't be happy with Reform
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: bennydorano on April 19, 2026, 07:18:27 PMReform it is

Who? Lads like Tice who don't pay their taxes...

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/2045788070012653903

Every bit as bad as those scroungers on DLA etc ripping us off.

playwiththewind1st

For people like Tice, tax avoidance -v- tax evasion is just a matter of semantics.

Farage constantly runs about, playing the "ordinary" bloke card, so that he can mop up the disaffected, white, working class vote.

You would imagine that, in private, he looks upon such people with utter contempt.

playwiththewind1st

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2026, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 19, 2026, 07:18:27 PMReform it is

Ones over here (unionists ) won't be happy with Reform

The TUV have Reform marked down, as a complete bunch of Islington dwelling, avocado munching, Guardian reading, pinko, card carrying commie, wishy washy liberal, Trotskyist entryists.

AustinPowers

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QuoteReform it is

Who? Lads like Tice who don't pay their taxes...

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/2045788070012653903

Every bit as bad as those scroungers on DLA etc ripping us off.
I don't understand What  you mean by "us"

The north  (and Britain ) wouldn't be  in any better state if they  got rid of all DLA claimants.  It's an easy thing to blame the state of the place  on a few who might be fraudulently claiming benefits when they're always  seems to an endless pot of  money  for wars

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on April 21, 2026, 02:52:16 PM
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QuoteReform it is

Who? Lads like Tice who don't pay their taxes...

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/2045788070012653903

Every bit as bad as those scroungers on DLA etc ripping us off.
I don't understand What  you mean by "us"

The north  (and Britain ) wouldn't be  in any better state if they  got rid of all DLA claimants.  It's an easy thing to blame the state of the place  on a few who might be fraudulently claiming benefits when they're always  seems to an endless pot of  money  for wars

Encouraging people to work and not claim benefits is a good thing, saying that there is no problems with having money for wars is not the same argument though..

There so many benefits (pun intended) to working than claiming the dole/dla/pips/housing and so on

But definitely put up a thread about wasting money on wars and you wouldn't get too many disagreeing with you on that point
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

playwiththewind1st

What is alarming are the figures that are being bandied about concerning rising school absenteeism rates, since Covid. If pupils won't attend school, they won't get any qualifications, making it impossible to get a job. Probably partly explains the rise in the numbers of NEETs. People are actively decoupling from the state, before they even get a national insurance number, which is worrying.

AustinPowers

Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteReform it is

Who? Lads like Tice who don't pay their taxes...

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/2045788070012653903

Every bit as bad as those scroungers on DLA etc ripping us off.
I don't understand What  you mean by "us"

The north  (and Britain ) wouldn't be  in any better state if they  got rid of all DLA claimants.  It's an easy thing to blame the state of the place  on a few who might be fraudulently claiming benefits when they're always  seems to an endless pot of  money  for wars

Encouraging people to work and not claim benefits is a good thing, saying that there is no problems with having money for wars is not the same argument though..

There so many benefits (pun intended) to working than claiming the dole/dla/pips/housing and so on

But definitely put up a thread about wasting money on wars and you wouldn't get too many disagreeing with you on that point
And there are so many benefits (pun intended)  for some to claim benefits rather than working.

I agree, it's good to encourage people into work. But you hear of  many working people now asking , why am I busting my hole off for so little reward? Both parents working, paying taxes, childcare, mortgage, Cost of living going up and up etc etc.  For a lot of people, working hard  isn't as rewarding in terms of  getting on the property ladder , quality of life, desposible income etc  it once was.

seafoid

The enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

playwiththewind1st

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgr76r7691o

The British Treasury now wants around another grand a year off each household.

So, the answer is screw more money out of those who do pay up [bearing in mind that £119,000,000 worth of rates bills are already sitting as unpaid & that the DfC reckons there's £350,000,000 of benefit fraud going on], whilst services are currently at worse than 3rd world levels.

Then they actually wonder why people think that the social contract is completely bolloxed?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2026, 04:59:07 PMThe enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2026, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2026, 04:59:07 PMThe enemy isn't the scroungers. People aren't good at putting numbers into perspective. The enemy is the 50 families who are richer than the 34 million people at the bottom.

The *real* problem is that a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.

You are getting confused, there are no good tax dodgers. Cooking the books because you can afford it and cooking the bookies cause you are a lazy Cnut is the same..

The system is broken by those who can afford to hide their earnings and those who refuse to earn, thus leaving those who go out to make an honest wage end up paying for poor services they receive..

Stop separating things
Theres a world of difference in a boy scrounging a few thousand and corporations cleaning us for billions. Neither are right but one is on a different level