Armagh v Tyrone USFC - BOX IT Athletic Grounds, Sunday 12th April, 16:15

[David McKeown]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

[gallsman]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

Waffle.

[David McKeown]

Ok explain to me why it was a card?

[JoG2]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

[David McKeown]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias.  Which of the following was it?

5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12  To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.

Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules

[oakleafgael]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias.  Which of the following was it?

5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12  To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.

Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules

David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.

[David McKeown]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias.  Which of the following was it?

5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12  To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.

Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules

David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.

No he wasnt he recieved a black card or at least thats what it looked from where I was and what RTE said it was

[tbrick18]

High tackle is a yellow card. There wasn't a huge amount of force behind it, but I think a yellow is the right call in accordance with the rules.

If mckernan hadn't mouthed off to the ref, armagh dont get a tap over free.
If mcelhome had taken the easy point rather than go for goal.
Tyrone made enough mistakes of their own to lose the game.... one Incident where the ref issued a yellow is not an excuse.

Tyrone were better than expected, armagh worse than expected.
And to be honest, I'd think Tyrone maybe come away from that game happier than armagh did.
Tyrone have 6 weeks now to build on that and try to improve. But in my opinion, the quality isn't there for them to be challengers. Feels like they are in a transition period and need 2 or 3 years to develop.

Armagh I think could be on a slow downwards burn. They were not great today but had a bit more quality than Tyrone, have more matured players taking the right decisions. But definitely dont have the same depth they had. They could give anyone a game, but there wasn't much there today that would make you think they are in a position to win ulster or the AI this year. Donegal will be pleased at that game today.

Extra time was exciting, I was hoping for pens for the craic.
But on the whole, it was a hard watch.
New rules didn't contribute to a spectacle anyway.

[tbrick18]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias.  Which of the following was it?

5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12  To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.

Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules

David it was none of those, he was yellow carded for a high tackle. It could be argued he tackled the ball and his arm/hand slipped upwards but it was a silly challenge to make when on a yellow.

No he wasnt he recieved a black card or at least thats what it looked from where I was and what RTE said it was

I watched on bbc and thought they said yellow card?
It should have been a yellow, so if he issued a black in error, the right call would have had the same result in a red.

[Solo_run]

[JoG2]

Jaysus even Peter Canavan said McMullen shouldnt have been sent off!

Why would Canavan know any better than the ref or any regular Joe who knows the rules? That 2nd yellow was an easy call

Yes easily the wrong call.  Tyrone very lucky on a number of red card incidents

2 sentences on why you can't have a conversation with fans of teams involved on incidents during a game. Too much emotion / bias. I'm married into Armagh stock and have zero grá for our neighbours in Tyrone (full transparency 😁)

I think we can have a very frank discussion on it and allow for bias.  Which of the following was it?

5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent.
5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
5.12  To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking that opponent out of the movement of play.
5.13 To deliberately prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent.
5.14 To contribute to a melee by being the third or subsequent player into a melee except where that player enters the melee and solely engages in the removal of a team-mate.
5.15 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.
5.16 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate.

Because I can't see it being any of them and the question was asked on the rules

These are black card fouls David...2nd yellow was for a neck high tackle. It's not really up for debate

[ClubScene13]

Armagh kicked 0-8 from frees, Tyrone got a point from Jordan. He never cost Tyrone the game, I would entertain a debate on McMullen second yellow as well, wouldn't of complained if it was just a free in and move on.

From a scoreable free persepctive thought we were totally nailed. Some of them stone wall (Ben McDonnell's rash one), some of them incredibly soft. These were tap overs too which is more frustrating. O'Neills stolen yards shouldn't be let go either, he might of nailed it anyway but not really acceptable when players were pointing it out before hand.

Tyrone did get some frees on goal but they tended to be long distance, Jordan and Morgan's radar well off today. Morgan questionable on the pressure ones over the years but I suppose he's only taking the hard ones.

A 6 or 7 week turnaround is going to be a serious stint for Tyrone now, could be a short summer but good to see a bit of bite back. Armagh have a nack of hanging in there with Donegal but they definitely need to lift it from that today. Beware of Derry in the long grass, I always think they have a massive game in them for some reason even when form doesn't always suggest it.

[Solo_run]

On the day both teams can have grievances about the officiating but ultimately the result. I think, overall, the referee did not particularly benefit anyone.

[gallsman]

How can anyone argue with that ffs

[Solo_run]

How can anyone argue with that ffs

I hope it is applied consistently, as there will be a lot of black cards like that this season.