Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[cjx]

2 big men problem of course requires talent as well as size

[jb77]

Kennedy the scapegoat when he's tripled marked and still trying to drop ball on him haha

[square_ball]

Kennedy the scapegoat when he's tripled marked and still trying to drop ball on him haha

Kennedy the target for majority of our kickouts and is often the man going up for the ball and scrambling on the ground for breaking ball. Something not right there!

[NotedObserver]

We will and have been bringing Teague and Donnelly out to the middle for the kick outs but both not tall but have a bit of weight and aggression

[cjx]

Teague is a marker not a kickout catcher and great at shepparding dangermen like he did to Sean O 'Shea in AI semi last ( no score v 12pt v Armagh). But  what is needed most of is strength and conditioning mental as well as physical which come from clear plans for today's game including most importantly 2 pointer plans. (7 wides from 2pt efforts against Cork in 1st half with wind, failure to counter 2pt shots by Louth and mess against 14 Kildare men) Like it or leave 2 pointers have undue impact now.
 [l favour a 4pt goal to rebalance this but that is a different argument]

[oakleaflad]

Morgan (hope he has his head right and talking to O'Rourke)
Quinn
Teague
J Clarke
Mckernan
Devlin
McGeary
Conn
Kennedy
E Jordan
Cassidy
R canavan
D Canavan
Mattie d
E McElhom

I would have McElholm on from start in corner.l think he was pushed in too early and too much expected but in corner can do a good job abd mebbe move more into half fwd in 2nd half. Seanie O'D great honest worker but small and the everlasting 2 big men problem remains unsolved still.

Outsider looking in here but dont think you can start both Canavan's, Jordan and McElholm in the one team and can probably only start 2 of them imo. Teams will run through you.

[Redhand Santa]

Morgan (hope he has his head right and talking to O'Rourke)
Quinn
Teague
J Clarke
Mckernan
Devlin
McGeary
Conn
Kennedy
E Jordan
Cassidy
R canavan
D Canavan
Mattie d
E McElhom

I would have McElholm on from start in corner.l think he was pushed in too early and too much expected but in corner can do a good job abd mebbe move more into half fwd in 2nd half. Seanie O'D great honest worker but small and the everlasting 2 big men problem remains unsolved still.

Outsider looking in here but dont think you can start both Canavan's, Jordan and McElholm in the one team and can probably only start 2 of them imo. Teams will run through you.

Agree totally with this. Far too open and not enough ball winners - that's been a problem throughout the league. Two of the players above (id include Cassidy in the list as well despite them trying him in half forward/half back lines)  with Donnelly in full forward line and 3 workers in half forward line needed.

[cjx]

Morgan (hope he has his head right and talking to O'Rourke)
Quinn
Teague
J Clarke
Mckernan
Devlin
McGeary
Conn
Kennedy
E Jordan
Cassidy
R canavan
D Canavan
Mattie d
E McElhom

I would have McElholm on from start in corner.l think he was pushed in too early and too much expected but in corner can do a good job abd mebbe move more into half fwd in 2nd half. Seanie O'D great honest worker but small and the everlasting 2 big men problem remains unsolved still.

Outsider looking in here but dont think you can start both Canavan's, Jordan and McElholm in the one team and can probably only start 2 of them imo. Teams will run through you.

Agree totally with this. Far too open and not enough ball winners - that's been a problem throughout the league. Two of the players above (id include Cassidy in the list as well despite them trying him in half forward/half back lines)  with Donnelly in full forward line and 3 workers in half forward line needed.

All true but this just brings us back to the 2 big men problem. Who are the strong workers? I do not think McDonnell is good enough for the role so who are these 2 big men? I do think Jorden is stronger than he is given credit for. Still this is also back to the strength and conditioning thing (and thus Peter Donnelly). Only Mattie Donnelly fits the profile here now Peter Harte is gone. Or is he?

[NotedObserver]

Morgan (hope he has his head right and talking to O'Rourke)
Quinn
Teague
J Clarke
Mckernan
Devlin
McGeary
Conn
Kennedy
E Jordan
Cassidy
R canavan
D Canavan
Mattie d
E McElhom

I would have McElholm on from start in corner.l think he was pushed in too early and too much expected but in corner can do a good job abd mebbe move more into half fwd in 2nd half. Seanie O'D great honest worker but small and the everlasting 2 big men problem remains unsolved still.

Outsider looking in here but dont think you can start both Canavan's, Jordan and McElholm in the one team and can probably only start 2 of them imo. Teams will run through you.

Agree totally with this. Far too open and not enough ball winners - that's been a problem throughout the league. Two of the players above (id include Cassidy in the list as well despite them trying him in half forward/half back lines)  with Donnelly in full forward line and 3 workers in half forward line needed.

All true but this just brings us back to the 2 big men problem. Who are the strong workers? I do not think McDonnell is good enough for the role so who are these 2 big men? I do think Jorden is stronger than he is given credit for. Still this is also back to the strength and conditioning thing (and thus Peter Donnelly). Only Mattie Donnelly fits the profile here now Peter Harte is gone. Or is he?

Peter harte at 11

[Dire Ear]

Morgan
Devlin
Teague
J Clarke
Mckernan
McGeary
Burns
Conn
Kennedy
E Jordan
SODonn
McCurry
D Canavan
Mattie d
E McElhom

[Onthe40]

Morgan
A Clarke
Teague
Quinn
Devlin
McKernan
Burns
Kennedy
Kilpatrick
ODonnell
McGeary
Canavan
McElholm
Donnelly
McCurry

[NotedObserver]

Think Niall Devlin role is in the full back line/man marker. Very tidy player and composed but maybe doesn't do the driving runs from deep we require.

[RoundBall]

Is Peter Harte back with the panel or is it rumour?

[NotedObserver]

Not a great performance. Armagh pulled away when they wanted to it seemed.

Thought McDermott and Cochannon best of bunch. The bench made a difference I thought

[tyroneman]

Pretty poor performance. Armagh cut through us at will.