Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Ryan O]

It's unfortunate, but let's face it, two of them who left aren't good enough to play. Which is why they haven't played. McAteer had potential (and did play) so he's the only one that we can consider a loss.

As for Kearney, the fella has won the lottery currently as he'll probably never be on another county squad. So no idea why he'd walk away now. Byt he'll be further down the pecking order when the U20s are finished so who knows.

It's obviously a huge commitment for them but I wouldn't be losing any sleep. If Derry are to win an all Ireland it'll be with 18 or 19 core players not a raft of lads who blow in and out.

no sure of the winning the lottery analogy but 18/19 players will 100% not win us an all Ireland. It'll be a minimum of 22 odd all playing at a set standard.

Currently theres a gap between our best 5 and the next 12.
Its these squad players with potential that we really need to be holding onto. Massive commitment with very little glory but that's key to building the whole thing.
From the U20 squad who do you expect to join? Tommy Rogers and James Sargent are already floating about it.

[Newbridge Exile]

It's unfortunate, but let's face it, two of them who left aren't good enough to play. Which is why they haven't played. McAteer had potential (and did play) so he's the only one that we can consider a loss.

As for Kearney, the fella has won the lottery currently as he'll probably never be on another county squad. So no idea why he'd walk away now. Byt he'll be further down the pecking order when the U20s are finished so who knows.

It's obviously a huge commitment for them but I wouldn't be losing any sleep. If Derry are to win an all Ireland it'll be with 18 or 19 core players not a raft of lads who blow in and out.

no sure of the winning the lottery analogy but 18/19 players will 100% not win us an all Ireland. It'll be a minimum of 22 odd all playing at a set standard.

Currently theres a gap between our best 5 and the next 12.
Its these squad players with potential that we really need to be holding onto. Massive commitment with very little glory but that's key to building the whole thing.
From the U20 squad who do you expect to join? Tommy Rogers and James Sargent are already floating about it.

Eamon young and Conal Higgins are part of the panel

[NotedObserver]

It's unfortunate, but let's face it, two of them who left aren't good enough to play. Which is why they haven't played. McAteer had potential (and did play) so he's the only one that we can consider a loss.

As for Kearney, the fella has won the lottery currently as he'll probably never be on another county squad. So no idea why he'd walk away now. Byt he'll be further down the pecking order when the U20s are finished so who knows.

It's obviously a huge commitment for them but I wouldn't be losing any sleep. If Derry are to win an all Ireland it'll be with 18 or 19 core players not a raft of lads who blow in and out.

no sure of the winning the lottery analogy but 18/19 players will 100% not win us an all Ireland. It'll be a minimum of 22 odd all playing at a set standard.

Currently theres a gap between our best 5 and the next 12.
Its these squad players with potential that we really need to be holding onto. Massive commitment with very little glory but that's key to building the whole thing.
From the U20 squad who do you expect to join? Tommy Rogers and James Sargent are already floating about it.

Eamon young and Conal Higgins are part of the panel

Are young, Higgins and Roger's still under 20?

[zapped]

Team from 2023 minor AI final (this year's U20s):
Derry: Karl Campbell; Fionn McEldowney (Capt.), Finbar Murray, Luke Grant; Cahir Spiers, James Sargent, Odhrán Campbell; Tommy Rogers, Cahal McKaigue; Éamon Young, Johnny McGuckin, Rory Small; Ger Dillon, Conall Higgins, Oisín Doherty.
Subs: Kevin Barry Mullan for Doherty (49); John Boyle for Higgins (58); Dara McGuckin for Rogers (60).

Of that squad - Campbell is away to college in USA.
McEldowney and Rogers were part of the panel last year.
Sargent, Young, Rogers, Higgins all part of the panel this year. Expect Cahal McKaigue to not be far away from a call up as well.

My point was that were better focusing time and money on these players rather than good club players like JD or SK who may or may not stick around until the league is over 

[Ryan O]

Team from 2023 minor AI final (this year's U20s):
Derry: Karl Campbell; Fionn McEldowney (Capt.), Finbar Murray, Luke Grant; Cahir Spiers, James Sargent, Odhrán Campbell; Tommy Rogers, Cahal McKaigue; Éamon Young, Johnny McGuckin, Rory Small; Ger Dillon, Conall Higgins, Oisín Doherty.
Subs: Kevin Barry Mullan for Doherty (49); John Boyle for Higgins (58); Dara McGuckin for Rogers (60).

Of that squad - Campbell is away to college in USA.
McEldowney and Rogers were part of the panel last year.
Sargent, Young, Rogers, Higgins all part of the panel this year. Expect Cahal McKaigue to not be far away from a call up as well.

My point was that were better focusing time and money on these players rather than good club players like JD or SK who may or may not stick around until the league is over 

I totally agree but still think they should be trying get a few of that type of player on board. Yes it may be hard to hold them but we can't narrow player search to lads who just come through development squads.
I would expect Luke Grant to move into a senior squad too, maybe not this year but he's a very good young player.

Anyway this weekend not about future players, what we have is going good. Hope Celtic Park is packed tomorrow biggest game of the weekend in all divisions.

[Newbridge Exile]

It's unfortunate, but let's face it, two of them who left aren't good enough to play. Which is why they haven't played. McAteer had potential (and did play) so he's the only one that we can consider a loss.

As for Kearney, the fella has won the lottery currently as he'll probably never be on another county squad. So no idea why he'd walk away now. Byt he'll be further down the pecking order when the U20s are finished so who knows.

It's obviously a huge commitment for them but I wouldn't be losing any sleep. If Derry are to win an all Ireland it'll be with 18 or 19 core players not a raft of lads who blow in and out.

no sure of the winning the lottery analogy but 18/19 players will 100% not win us an all Ireland. It'll be a minimum of 22 odd all playing at a set standard.

Currently theres a gap between our best 5 and the next 12.
Its these squad players with potential that we really need to be holding onto. Massive commitment with very little glory but that's key to building the whole thing.
From the U20 squad who do you expect to join? Tommy Rogers and James Sargent are already floating about it.

Eamon young and Conal Higgins are part of the panel

Are young, Higgins and Roger's still under 20?

Yes and Eamon is under 20 next year also

[GTP]

SK named in squad JD and MD are not.
Dan Higgins on bench.

[Wildweasel74]

Is McGurk injured! Cant understand Doherty leaving when he played rightly last week.

[marty34]

I agree with Zapped in a way in that it'll be about 22 players - other 12/14 players are in filling space for 15 V 15 in house games. 5 or 6 players will be injured like Murray and Mc Evoy while lads like Rogers, Glass and Doherty are ever present.

In theory, No. 34 should be pushing the first 15 players for a place and theory is all well and good but it doesn't happen. Sometimes lads are brought in to get them experience and into the 'county set up' and they're happy with that for a year or two.

[Wildweasel74]

How many are pushing for Armagh, Donegal,Galway,? alot more than that. There men playing for Armagh, Galway and Donegal that had to do 2/3 yrs in the bench before making their mark. We have men getting game time leaving. Learned against Galway 2022, or we should have, that a small panel doesnt cut it.

[marty34]

How many are pushing for Armagh, Donegal,Galway,? alot more than that. There men playing for Armagh, Galway and Donegal that had to do 2/3 yrs in the bench before making their mark. We have men getting game time leaving. Learned against Galway 2022, or we should have, that a small panel doesnt cut it.

Point being every county team has a panel of 34 or 35. But the 'real' panel is about 22. I think that the match day named panel is 26?

If you're there for 3 years, even if you're 23 or 24 years old and you're still No. 32 in the pecking order, you should be asking the question of yourself.

Now in my opinion there should be a rule that No.'s 24 - 34 on an inter-county panel ahould be allowed to play club gmes for their clubs. Benefits everyone.

[Brendan]

How many are pushing for Armagh, Donegal,Galway,? alot more than that. There men playing for Armagh, Galway and Donegal that had to do 2/3 yrs in the bench before making their mark. We have men getting game time leaving. Learned against Galway 2022, or we should have, that a small panel doesnt cut it.

Point being every county team has a panel of 34 or 35. But the 'real' panel is about 22. I think that the match day named panel is 26?

If you're there for 3 years, even if you're 23 or 24 years old and you're still No. 32 in the pecking order, you should be asking the question of yourself.

Now in my opinion there should be a rule that No.'s 24 - 34 on an inter-county panel ahould be allowed to play club gmes for their clubs. Benefits everyone.

Youd think this would be common sense, keeps clubs and the players happier, fellas who mightnt play a match for 6 months but doing all the training

[jb77]

Lachlan can inject some energy into a crowd, even when he starts to make the run everyone is watching him

[screenexile]

Lads that was some performance!! Good momentum with us at the minute Louth away will be a good test as well.

[CookieMonster]

I thought we'd win, didn't think we'd dish out a 20 point hammering