Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Ryan O]

The lavey lads soon come out previously I was accused of having a problem with Steelstown and before that with North Derry.

Newbridge have 5 men on the squad and are back to back championship winners. There is no way Patrick Mc Gurk is strong enough for inter county football and I'm basing that after watching a full championship last year.There is a place for Toner but I think the game has changed to much for him to be influential.
Individuals on the squad 100% have merit so Diamond, Devlin, Kearney argument doesn't add up. They won't make their clubs successful alone but are by far the best players on their club team.

If you've 4/5 men on the squad you have to be one of top teams in county.
Ciaran Henry is Laveys best player

Fella's name is Ciaran Hendry. Thanks for confirming, you're clueless 👍

top class lad, spelling mistakes is the bingo moment.

And for the record disliking Lavey isn't that big of a deal they hate the look of each other.

[JoG2]

The lavey lads soon come out previously I was accused of having a problem with Steelstown and before that with North Derry.

Newbridge have 5 men on the squad and are back to back championship winners. There is no way Patrick Mc Gurk is strong enough for inter county football and I'm basing that after watching a full championship last year.There is a place for Toner but I think the game has changed to much for him to be influential.
Individuals on the squad 100% have merit so Diamond, Devlin, Kearney argument doesn't add up. They won't make their clubs successful alone but are by far the best players on their club team.

If you've 4/5 men on the squad you have to be one of top teams in county.
Ciaran Henry is Laveys best player

Whatever else in the post, McGurk was one of the shining lights imo last year... We all see things differently I suppose

[jb77]

All this forward talk so I had look at the scoring rates, Paul Cassidy is averaging near 3 points per contest in the new rules, fair play to him he get's a bit of stick at times.

[marty34]

On a plus Kildare drawing with Tyrone loads plenty onto next weeks game.

If after 2 games we could manage to be a point ahead of Tyrone it wouldn't be doom and gloom. Maybe just gloom.

Meath beat us well yesterday but I thought they were very average team. Sean Rafferty at 3 hoovers up everything but defense is poor. 2 pointers obviously there thing but in Winter football the weather decides if they are an option.

All about 2 pointers now, regardless of whether it's in winter or summer.

I actually remember thinking when the new 3 V 3 rule came in that it'd be a great opportunity for a big lad on the D and drop kick it into him on the counter attack.

Unfortunately it never transpired. Still very much, as Derry are, in terms of keeping it safe and all about possession. Teams now are all about keeping possession and making the right decision to take the shot.

So, in a way, to me anyway, the game hasn't changed in that respect but it's a better game because of the 2 pointers. More exciting.

[Silver hill]

We could have the greatest backroom team in Ireland, the best facilities, a brilliant new keeper and multiple new two footed players up front with searing pace, but it wouldn't make a jot of difference as the tactics implemented by Meenagh won't deliver the consistent results needed.
To win anything under the new rules, teams need to have lightning transitions, a willingness to kick the ball when required, have 2/3 different 2 point options and forwards who know that when they make runs, the ball will be delivered.

[Real Talk]

 

The lavey lads soon come out previously I was accused of having a problem with Steelstown and before that with North Derry.

Newbridge have 5 men on the squad and are back to back championship winners. There is no way Patrick Mc Gurk is strong enough for inter county football and I'm basing that after watching a full championship last year.There is a place for Toner but I think the game has changed to much for him to be influential.
Individuals on the squad 100% have merit so Diamond, Devlin, Kearney argument doesn't add up. They won't make their clubs successful alone but are by far the best players on their club team.

If you've 4/5 men on the squad you have to be one of top teams in county.
Ciaran Henry is Laveys best player

Whatever else in the post, McGurk was one of the shining lights imo last year... We all see things differently I suppose

McGurk will be a very good player .. remember his first game for Derry against Mayo last year he scored a goal ... Which club does that fella Devlin play for ?

[Ryan O]

The lavey lads soon come out previously I was accused of having a problem with Steelstown and before that with North Derry.

Newbridge have 5 men on the squad and are back to back championship winners. There is no way Patrick Mc Gurk is strong enough for inter county football and I'm basing that after watching a full championship last year.There is a place for Toner but I think the game has changed to much for him to be influential.
Individuals on the squad 100% have merit so Diamond, Devlin, Kearney argument doesn't add up. They won't make their clubs successful alone but are by far the best players on their club team.

If you've 4/5 men on the squad you have to be one of top teams in county.
Ciaran Henry is Laveys best player

Whatever else in the post, McGurk was one of the shining lights imo last year... We all see things differently I suppose

McGurk will be a very good player .. remember his first game for Derry against Mayo last year he scored a goal ... Which club does that fella Devlin play for ?

He's a Loup man good direct forward. Fast and strong can have an odd wild shot here and there but definitely I think worth a go.

I can see why think that about Mc Gurk but if had choice of him or Fionn Mc Eldowney who would pick. And there's no mention of Fionn even about the panel.

Mc Gurk a good steady player I just don't believe he's county standard, but as I've said about others I'm more than happy to be wrong about that

[Derry Man]

The lavey lads soon come out previously I was accused of having a problem with Steelstown and before that with North Derry.

Newbridge have 5 men on the squad and are back to back championship winners. There is no way Patrick Mc Gurk is strong enough for inter county football and I'm basing that after watching a full championship last year.There is a place for Toner but I think the game has changed to much for him to be influential.
Individuals on the squad 100% have merit so Diamond, Devlin, Kearney argument doesn't add up. They won't make their clubs successful alone but are by far the best players on their club team.

If you've 4/5 men on the squad you have to be one of top teams in county.
Ciaran Henry is Laveys best player

Whatever else in the post, McGurk was one of the shining lights imo last year... We all see things differently I suppose

McGurk will be a very good player .. remember his first game for Derry against Mayo last year he scored a goal ... Which club does that fella Devlin play for ?

He's a Loup man good direct forward. Fast and strong can have an odd wild shot here and there but definitely I think worth a go.

I can see why think that about Mc Gurk but if had choice of him or Fionn Mc Eldowney who would pick. And there's no mention of Fionn even about the panel.

Mc Gurk a good steady player I just don't believe he's county standard, but as I've said about others I'm more than happy to be wrong about that

Fairly sure Finn is still u20 although so are Eamon Young & Connall Higgins so maybe he wasn't asked to the senior panel

[GTP]

Derry hit 12 scores with 12 wide or short (10/2) which does not include the goal (short) or the Mckinless point tipped over (also short). Meath hit 14 scores with 6 wide or short (4/2). Derry's shooting was not up to scratch and my opinion primary reason they lost.
On the 4 Lavey players one of whom currently isn't and only one of whom started. The 7 alternatives are as far as I can tell forwards or midfielders. Maybe one can step forward and replace Toner, selected by multiple managers as being good enough, but are any an option instead of McGurk in defence?

[jb77]

Derry hit 12 scores with 12 wide or short (10/2) which does not include the goal (short) or the Mckinless point tipped over (also short). Meath hit 14 scores with 6 wide or short (4/2). Derry's shooting was not up to scratch and my opinion primary reason they lost.
On the 4 Lavey players one of whom currently isn't and only one of whom started. The 7 alternatives are as far as I can tell forwards or midfielders. Maybe one can step forward and replace Toner, selected by multiple managers as being good enough, but are any an option instead of McGurk in defence?

No issue with McGurk coming on but he replaced a forward strangely when we probably needed either of the Sean's, Jack or Charlie Diamond. Sean Young ran onto the pitch and the game was over

[jmcgdoire]

I wouldnt take Ryan O's comment on on the lavey men too seriously. Especially after posting 'disliking Lavey isn't that big of a deal'. 
Saying a club shouldnt have their quality players on the panel because the club underperformed in the senior championship? Sure by his logic there should be more banagher men on the derry team and niall loughlin and lachlan murray should be demoted to the development squad ...

[GTP]

The McGurk/Loughlin substitution was strange. McGurk looked like he was sent on to pick up a specific player but I have no idea who went to play in the forwards.
I didn't see if Young was on the line waiting for a long time or if it was simply a very late substitution.
Could possibly have been brought on to stop the clock?

[Ryan O]

I wouldnt take Ryan O's comment on on the lavey men too seriously. Especially after posting 'disliking Lavey isn't that big of a deal'. 
Saying a club shouldnt have their quality players on the panel because the club underperformed in the senior championship? Sure by his logic there should be more banagher men on the derry team and niall loughlin and lachlan murray should be demoted to the development squad ...

at no time did I say that.

Don't take it seriously because you haven't worked out what I was saying. 👏👏

[Estimator]

None of these subs made sense:
Shea Downey for Toner (54), Patrick McGurk for Loughlin (61), Sean Kearney for Baker (65), Sean Young for Cassidy (70).

Two defenders on for two forwards
One forward on for one defender
One that was on the field for seconds.

[jmcgdoire]

I wouldnt take Ryan O's comment on on the lavey men too seriously. Especially after posting 'disliking Lavey isn't that big of a deal'. 
Saying a club shouldnt have their quality players on the panel because the club underperformed in the senior championship? Sure by his logic there should be more banagher men on the derry team and niall loughlin and lachlan murray should be demoted to the development squad ...

at no time did I say that.

Don't take it seriously because you haven't worked out what I was saying. 👏👏

"Bar stuffing a rubbish Kilrea team how have Lavey managed to get 4 men onto a county team?"
The obvious implication here is that lavey arent a good enough team to warrant 4 men on the county panel. What else could you have meant?
And im saying thats utter rubbish. If the players are good enough theyll be on the team. No matter how weak their club team is.