Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Mario]

The kickout stats were slightly in our favour and I don't blame the ref. We got a soft free at the end for a pick up off the ground and McGuigan got a 2 pointer near the end that wasn't a free. We lost that game because Meath were a lot more efficient in front of the posts. They were deadly at 2 point efforts off the ground and they scored a couple of monster points against the wind.

[Wildweasel74]

But hows it a soft free when it was picked off the ground! Any chance we actually see J Doherty play a game at CHF, he was lost on the wing in the McKenna cup.  Who is our long range free taker for 2pters on the left side? Alot of scores from 2 pt frees these days and we dont score alot of them.

[Mario]

But hows it a soft free when it was picked off the ground! Any chance we actually see J Doherty play a game at CHF, he was lost on the wing in the McKenna cup.  Who is our long range free taker for 2pters on the left side? Alot of scores from 2 pt frees these days and we dont score alot of them.

It was 2 inches off the ground when he lifted it

[Silver hill]

Early days but that was a very worrying performance. So flat for long periods apart from the first 15 in the second half. No early ball into our forward line and no movement inside either which would indicate to me, that Meenagh has no interest in playing that way.
A lack of 2 point options is again a worry after our miserable return last year.
Problems again at midfield where size unfortunately is really against us.
Not sure what happened Murray, but think he's a serious talent and if we kick the ball into him when he returns, he totally changes our attack.

[theticklemister]

Anyone like to go and find the ratio of hand passes to kick passes for us?  I reliase the conditions weren't great but early ball into full forward line is the go now.

As people have said, this slow build up with hand passing and people coming on loop is what we done a few years ago but it's not gonna work now.

Derry remind me of Liverpool at the minute, slow build up and can't get past a solid defence structure

[Ryan O]

On a plus Kildare drawing with Tyrone loads plenty onto next weeks game.

If after 2 games we could manage to be a point ahead of Tyrone it wouldn't be doom and gloom. Maybe just gloom.

Meath beat us well yesterday but I thought they were very average team. Sean Rafferty at 3 hoovers up everything but defense is poor. 2 pointers obviously there thing but in Winter football the weather decides if they are an option.

[zapped]

What a depressing bunch of fans Derry have. Some lads here writing off the entire season over one game, arguably the toughest fixture in the entire schedule. Give your heads a shake.

[theticklemister]

Brolly at it already lol

[statto]

On a plus Kildare drawing with Tyrone loads plenty onto next weeks game.

If after 2 games we could manage to be a point ahead of Tyrone it wouldn't be doom and gloom. Maybe just gloom.

Meath beat us well yesterday but I thought they were very average team. Sean Rafferty at 3 hoovers up everything but defense is poor. 2 pointers obviously there thing but in Winter football the weather decides if they are an option.

What do you mean the weather decides if they are an option? Meath took their chances at twos, Paul Cassidy kicked a nice one in second half and McGuigan had a go at two or three when game was in melting pot that he missed, difficult as they where. Two pointers are going have a big say in games if they are in January or July, there was 7 in total across yesterday's game with Meath getting 5.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

What a depressing bunch of fans Derry have. Some lads here writing off the entire season over one game, arguably the toughest fixture in the entire schedule. Give your heads a shake.

This. Every last thing analysed to the nth  degree by some. Mostly negative

[Ryan O]

On a plus Kildare drawing with Tyrone loads plenty onto next weeks game.

If after 2 games we could manage to be a point ahead of Tyrone it wouldn't be doom and gloom. Maybe just gloom.

Meath beat us well yesterday but I thought they were very average team. Sean Rafferty at 3 hoovers up everything but defense is poor. 2 pointers obviously there thing but in Winter football the weather decides if they are an option.

What do you mean the weather decides if they are an option? Meath took their chances at twos, Paul Cassidy kicked a nice one in second half and McGuigan had a go at two or three when game was in melting pot that he missed, difficult as they where. Two pointers are going have a big say in games if they are in January or July, there was 7 in total across yesterday's game with Meath getting 5.

I agree but it the first half I firmly believed Derry were playing against a really strong breeze thats reason for continuously trying to get the ball to 20 yard line before shooting.Meath then come out a stroke over few 2 pointers in second half.
Shane Mc Guigan was blew up for taking to long on kicking a free that on hindsight looks like a shot should have been taken. Winter football pissing rain, big wind and a bog of a pitch I don't think 2 pointers can be the thing relied on to get you over the line.

[Ryan O]

Can't be slated for being negative when analysing something you sat and watched for 70 mins. Can't sugar coat that display, its not good enough.

For all our eternally optimistic men feel free the highlight the positives from yesterday? Both from this squad we are supposedly developing and anything thats better form last year.

Just incase anyone is in any doubt Conor Mc Ateer isn't a corner forward. Sean Young or Sean Kearney would have suited better.

Bar stuffing a rubbish Kilrea team how have Lavey managed to get 4 men onto a county team? None of which I believe are close to being strong enough to start. (Including Matthew Downey in this as he's played more Championship games for Lavey in last 3 years that St Bridgids)

[jb77]

There's one or two on that bench must be very poor in training because Chrissy would know the hell he got in Club from them over the years

[Silver hill]

It's difficult to try to be positive when we haven't won a competitive game in whatever number of months and games and don't appear to have tried to embrace the new rules or fundamentally change our playing style.
We still persist with lateral play and refuse to try to transition quickly when we have possession. It's completely risk averse and it looks like Meenagh's approach is basically Tally lite.
We have the athleticism to break quicker and get bodies ahead of the ball, that's a relatively easy fix. The problem is, those players are all conditioned to re cycle as soon as they gain possession. The really good teams in club and county over the past 12 months are explosive on the break and are prepared to kick forward when required. And most importantly, the inside forwards are moving in the knowledge that the ball will be kicked.

[JoG2]

1st league game missing key players, key players not sharp, Bedding in a new keeper(s) , played in swirling wind, driving rain against a top 4 team last year, with only a kick of a ball in it, it's not stroke inducing for me. I'll revisit as the league progresses, could well have a canary before the year is out right enough