Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[square_ball]

For all our success at underage we do produce the same type of player. We'd need the odd big 6.5ft lump coming through.

[Hand of God]

The half forward line remains a worry for us.

Kilpatrick and Oguz were very poor in kickouts in the first half. They are similar types of players who are much better when running at teams directly in the final third but we need them to contribute more dirty working and fielding around the middle.

Kennedy helped in that respect when he came on. Really poor showing from Cathal Donaghy and Conroy off the back of good club seasons. Both are at an age where they should be at their peak now so hard to know if it is worth persisting or bringing in new talent. The half forward line is just so inspiring. McElhom can be a star at 11 but outside of that I don't think any of our options at wing forward would get near a Kerry, Donegal, Armagh side.


You're looking at 2 from Daly, Seanie O'Donnell, 35 year old Mattie Donnelly, McGleenan, Oguz, Cathal Donaghy, Cassidy.

The main issue though is there's just not style of play, it's slow hand passing until McElhom or Canavan get on the ball to inject some pace. Jordan is a classy finisher but he probably needs a system around him that will buy him those few seconds to get shots off in the right area.

Donnelly is a failed experiment at full forward for quite some time now yet he's still playing there. If we are to have him in the team it needs to be somewhere in the middle third or not in the team.

[Hand of God]

For all our success at underage we do produce the same type of player. We'd need the odd big 6.5ft lump coming through.

Definitely in the forward line. It's all small, speedy forwards. Someone like Colton from last years minors could be a big boost for us in the next few years at senior level.

Whether McGarrity is up to it or not I think he needs to be given a run at full forward for remainder of the league.

[Aaron Boone]

Need to find a David Clifford.

[tiempo]

Didn't Art McRory once find a midfielder down the back of the sofa?

[thebigfullforward]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

Why does that make a difference on coming to a game? Armagh side subject to change before throw in as well

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

[thebigfullforward]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

[NotedObserver]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

A strange take for me. Your not on your own as tyrone support has been low for a long time

[statto]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

I would assume most supporters would go to the game regardless of who is starting in the league? While it may not be the championship 15 there's a fair chance there's going be 8/9 first teamers involved.

[thebigfullforward]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

I would assume most supporters would go to the game regardless of who is starting in the league? While it may not be the championship 15 there's a fair chance there's going be 8/9 first teamers involved.

In fairness I've never bothered going to county games really. Just doesn't draw me in the same way club football does. Have been to 2 games since covid, the one that sent Armagh down and against Kerry last year. I would have went to this one had I known who was available to play because I am a fan of a lot of these younger players

[GlenMan]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

I would assume most supporters would go to the game regardless of who is starting in the league? While it may not be the championship 15 there's a fair chance there's going be 8/9 first teamers involved.

In fairness I've never bothered going to county games really. Just doesn't draw me in the same way club football does. Have been to 2 games since covid, the one that sent Armagh down and against Kerry last year. I would have went to this one had I known who was available to play because I am a fan of a lot of these younger players

Calling yourself a Tyrone supporter is questionable at best. 2 games in 6 years? Ridiculous.

[thebigfullforward]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

Yeah? If I knew Canavan, McElholm, Joey Clarke, Jordan were all available to play I probably would have went. What's the issue with that?

I would assume most supporters would go to the game regardless of who is starting in the league? While it may not be the championship 15 there's a fair chance there's going be 8/9 first teamers involved.

In fairness I've never bothered going to county games really. Just doesn't draw me in the same way club football does. Have been to 2 games since covid, the one that sent Armagh down and against Kerry last year. I would have went to this one had I known who was available to play because I am a fan of a lot of these younger players

Calling yourself a Tyrone supporter is questionable at best. 2 games in 6 years? Ridiculous.

I don't claim to be an avid county supporter? I'd watch every game that's on TV or on GAA+. I just don't feel any connection to the players like I do for club football. I've attended underage club games over county games. I'd go to tidy up around the club pitches quicker than I'd go to a county game. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. No-one in my family would attend county games regularly so I never went to any county game before I turned 16 or so

[trileacman]

Very lucky to get a point this evening. Had we lost it we possibly would've needed to beat Derry or Meath to get promotion. Very very early in the year to be playing "winner takes all" matches.

Malachy once again appearing as the emperor without clothes. The "new manager", "team in transition" excuses being rolled out for him again. Lest we forget Donegal were Div 2 and a team in transition when McGuinness came in and with a lot less underage success than us. Since then they're twice Ulster winners and AI finalists.

Still no plan on kickouts, a scatter gun approach to selections and a pretty consistent lack of intensity in our play. With all due respect to the man but the only team operating with the same amount of underage success as ourselves are Kerry. Now underage is not the be all, end all but still it's certainly a big help for any manager.

I suppose I'll have to reserve judgement until the end of the league but to be honest another year in Div 2 would be pretty disastrous for us. The most worrying thing is that our bad performances clearly outnumber our good ones. Bad performances are a lot easier to take when you see clear signs of progress or development. There's nothing of that in MORs Tyrone. Just scattered bits of brilliance, (like Joey Clarkes blocks tonight or Eoin McElholm and Darren McCurry cameos last year,) digging us out of massive holes.

"With all due respect to the man.." 🤣 classic! You have absolutely no respect for him. You spent all last year slagging him off until he took them to the All Ireland semi-final then wound your neck in. As been said, is hard to make head or tail of what you're on about.

I wondered when my stalker was going to reappear. Any chance your slobbering synchophany for Malachy O'Rourke could be used to counter any of the points I made in that post?

Any idea why we don't have a kick-out press or kickout strategy? Any idea why our game plan is always "pick 15 players and hope they somehow gel"?

[trileacman]

For all our success at underage we do produce the same type of player. We'd need the odd big 6.5ft lump coming through.

I don't really agree, you play to your strengths and from what I see very few teams rely on size to win matches under the new rules. Galway are a classic example of a very big physical team who could not get to grips with the new rules last year and never really preformed.

I mean if we are blessed with a lot of small skilful players why do we not play to those strengths by playing a faster, less structured game? I actually believe pace and stamina are more important than ever in football as guys like Roarty, Ciaran Moore, o begley, P Clifford and Mick McKernan have shown.

[In hiding]

For all our success at underage we do produce the same type of player. We'd need the odd big 6.5ft lump coming through.

I don't really agree, you play to your strengths and from what I see very few teams rely on size to win matches under the new rules. Galway are a classic example of a very big physical team who could not get to grips with the new rules last year and never really preformed.

I mean if we are blessed with a lot of small skilful players why do we not play to those strengths by playing a faster, less structured game? I actually believe pace and stamina are more important than ever in football as guys like Roarty, Ciaran Moore, o begley, P Clifford and Mick McKernan have shown.

This place is mad. You say we need to be less structured, others say we have no structure.
You say very few teams rely on size, I'd say Joe O Connor was massively influential last year.
David Clifford is the player he is, due partly to his size and power.

We need to stop twisting facts to suit our agenda