Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[tyrone08]

There is too much talent in this tyrone team to be playing like this. If we dont get an ulster title or an ai semi final i would say its a failure.

Obviously its early days but Malachy needs to massively step it up.

Malachy all talk and emotion no tactics no plan.

After 21 years of tactics we are back to 1985. Clueless and crap backroom with the best underage players in Ireland and can't beat Kildare with 14 losing one of their best for half the match. Shambolic  farce.

Given that Malachy helped design the new rules i had hoped that he would take the regins and develop a fast attacking game plan. He was given a pass last year as he it was his first year but he needs to step it up asap.

If tyrone have a poor year i would be in favour of getting rid of him. Too much talent to be wasting another year of the players career's.

I know its only the firsr proper day out but other teams have hit the ground running and we have already stalled.

Who would you be replacing him with out of interest? MOR has a great track record as a manager who's careers is he wastin? It's the first round of the league and up to ten players not playing for one reason or another alot of overeaction on here.

Paul devlin would be an obvious candidate. Not saying to panic yet but its Malachy 2nd year in charge, hes been around tyrone football for over 20 years, he was a key figure in bringing the new rules in and he has a fantastic crop to pick from. I just believe he should be doing better given those points.

Can anyone actually see what he is trying to achieve ? I don't see any type of game plan or philosophy other than hope for a few moments of genius that a player may come up with 

[NotedObserver]

There is too much talent in this tyrone team to be playing like this. If we dont get an ulster title or an ai semi final i would say its a failure.

Obviously its early days but Malachy needs to massively step it up.

Malachy all talk and emotion no tactics no plan.

After 21 years of tactics we are back to 1985. Clueless and crap backroom with the best underage players in Ireland and can't beat Kildare with 14 losing one of their best for half the match. Shambolic  farce.

Given that Malachy helped design the new rules i had hoped that he would take the regins and develop a fast attacking game plan. He was given a pass last year as he it was his first year but he needs to step it up asap.

If tyrone have a poor year i would be in favour of getting rid of him. Too much talent to be wasting another year of the players career's.

I know its only the firsr proper day out but other teams have hit the ground running and we have already stalled.

Who would you be replacing him with out of interest? MOR has a great track record as a manager who's careers is he wastin? It's the first round of the league and up to ten players not playing for one reason or another alot of overeaction on here.

Paul devlin would be an obvious candidate. Not saying to panic yet but its Malachy 2nd year in charge, hes been around tyrone football for over 20 years, he was a key figure in bringing the new rules in and he has a fantastic crop to pick from. I just believe he should be doing better given those points.

Can anyone actually see what he is trying to achieve ? I don't see any type of game plan or philosophy other than hope for a few moments of genius that a player may come up with 

Last year he went with the tried and tested and carried the ball mostly. They got to the last 4 in the AI and beat Dublin in croke park. Are we any better than that? Tyrone are in transit

I think they are trying to get the ball in quicker the forwards and hopefully over the coming weeks this will be evident when the weather improves. There is a lot of talent coming through but not may close to 6ft 

[ONeill]

It's the 24th of January.

Calm down people.

This team got to the last 4 last year and ran Kerry closer than any side in the prelims, quarters or AI Final.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

It's the 24th of January.

Calm down people.

This team got to the last 4 last year and ran Kerry closer than any side in the prelims, quarters or AI Final.

Indeed, and that was O'Rourke's first season after inheriting a setup which unfortunately was a bit of a shambles (and while everything was in something of a flux as everyone adapted to a pretty different game). Reaching an AI SF in such circumstances was a very solid start. Also have to allow for bedding in lots of younger players. Some good things tonight, some other things not so good, but let's see how things pan out over the next few months.

[trileacman]

Very lucky to get a point this evening. Had we lost it we possibly would've needed to beat Derry or Meath to get promotion. Very very early in the year to be playing "winner takes all" matches.

Malachy once again appearing as the emperor without clothes. The "new manager", "team in transition" excuses being rolled out for him again. Lest we forget Donegal were Div 2 and a team in transition when McGuinness came in and with a lot less underage success than us. Since then they're twice Ulster winners and AI finalists.

Still no plan on kickouts, a scatter gun approach to selections and a pretty consistent lack of intensity in our play. With all due respect to the man but the only team operating with the same amount of underage success as ourselves are Kerry. Now underage is not the be all, end all but still it's certainly a big help for any manager.

I suppose I'll have to reserve judgement until the end of the league but to be honest another year in Div 2 would be pretty disastrous for us. The most worrying thing is that our bad performances clearly outnumber our good ones. Bad performances are a lot easier to take when you see clear signs of progress or development. There's nothing of that in MORs Tyrone. Just scattered bits of brilliance, (like Joey Clarkes blocks tonight or Eoin McElholm and Darren McCurry cameos last year,) digging us out of massive holes.

[ONeill]

Hard to understand any of those paragraphs.

[Truthsayer]

Very lucky to get a point this evening. Had we lost it we possibly would've needed to beat Derry or Meath to get promotion. Very very early in the year to be playing "winner takes all" matches.

Malachy once again appearing as the emperor without clothes. The "new manager", "team in transition" excuses being rolled out for him again. Lest we forget Donegal were Div 2 and a team in transition when McGuinness came in and with a lot less underage success than us. Since then they're twice Ulster winners and AI finalists.

Still no plan on kickouts, a scatter gun approach to selections and a pretty consistent lack of intensity in our play. With all due respect to the man but the only team operating with the same amount of underage success as ourselves are Kerry. Now underage is not the be all, end all but still it's certainly a big help for any manager.

I suppose I'll have to reserve judgement until the end of the league but to be honest another year in Div 2 would be pretty disastrous for us. The most worrying thing is that our bad performances clearly outnumber our good ones. Bad performances are a lot easier to take when you see clear signs of progress or development. There's nothing of that in MORs Tyrone. Just scattered bits of brilliance, (like Joey Clarkes blocks tonight or Eoin McElholm and Darren McCurry cameos last year,) digging us out of massive holes.

"With all due respect to the man.." 🤣 classic! You have absolutely no respect for him. You spent all last year slagging him off until he took them to the All Ireland semi-final then wound your neck in. As been said, is hard to make head or tail of what you're on about.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

It was a fairly poor performance overall but some very over the top reaction to it as well. There was six players on that have played little or no senior county football. You have to give them a chance to settle in. It's hard when there's so many in one go but wasn't much choice with injuries.

A lot of supporters giving out about their teams having no tactics on kick outs. But under new rules when opposition press it's very hard to do anything but kick to a contest. I thought Tyrone were brutal at competing in those contests in the first half though. Kildare got lot of easy clean catches. By his standards a poor night from Morgan.

There was signs a few of the new players like Clarke and Jordan can make it. But badly need a few ball winners in the half forward line.

[square_ball]

It's the 24th of January.

Calm down people.

Exactly this. And conditions were absolutely brutal. If we play as poorly by round 5 or 6 questions will be asked but I predict we'll be going fine by then. A lot of players to come back in.

We're in Premier League territory here. Either a team is brilliant or shit. No middle ground.

[thebigfullforward]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

[NotedObserver]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

Why does that make a difference on coming to a game? Armagh side subject to change before throw in as well

[statto]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

[ManFromMoygashel]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

He stated in an earlier post he was on the fence about going to a league game in January ( or taking his relatives)

So knowing the team could have swayed it. Especially if your club men are playing and you would be swayed to go then to see them play ( and hopefully do well)

Can be tough enough getting up and out of the house on a rainy cold January Saturday to watch Tyrone after maybe watching them against monaghan ( poor game.)

He's breaking in new squad players, it wont be pretty but expecting your best fifteen out in a div 2 league game in January and showing your full hand ( this game plan everyones asking for) and winning by 20 points would have been pointless when the championship is your aspiration.

Need to be peaking for Armagh not kildare in January.

[statto]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

He stated in an earlier post he was on the fence about going to a league game in January ( or taking his relatives)

So knowing the team could have swayed it. Especially if your club men are playing and you would be swayed to go then to see them play ( and hopefully do well)

Can be tough enough getting up and out of the house on a rainy cold January Saturday to watch Tyrone after maybe watching them against monaghan ( poor game.)

He's breaking in new squad players, it wont be pretty but expecting your best fifteen out in a div 2 league game in January and showing your full hand ( this game plan everyones asking for) and winning by 20 points would have been pointless when the championship is your aspiration.

Need to be peaking for Armagh not kildare in January

You would have a fair idea of the panel or who's been playing in McKenna cup so would have a fair idea of who might be playing.

If I was committing to a game I would go and support the team regardless if I disagreed with the lineup or not, but each to their own.

There is a lot of excitement in Tyrone with these underage players coming through and good opportunity to see who's kicking on at county level and maybe who needs further development.

[NotedObserver]

Another frustrating tyrone performance. Poor crowd and poor weather left things a bit flat. Morgan was a clown show. Few new lads done well so hopefully things can improve and they really need to.

Said it before but I was more than likely going to go depending on what the starting lineup looked like. They didn't release the squad list until about 13:00 was it? Armagh had their squad list out at 21:00 on the 22nd

So if you decide that you don't like the lineup you don't go?

He stated in an earlier post he was on the fence about going to a league game in January ( or taking his relatives)

So knowing the team could have swayed it. Especially if your club men are playing and you would be swayed to go then to see them play ( and hopefully do well)

Can be tough enough getting up and out of the house on a rainy cold January Saturday to watch Tyrone after maybe watching them against monaghan ( poor game.)

He's breaking in new squad players, it wont be pretty but expecting your best fifteen out in a div 2 league game in January and showing your full hand ( this game plan everyones asking for) and winning by 20 points would have been pointless when the championship is your aspiration.

Need to be peaking for Armagh not kildare in January.

Would agree about the thoughts on the game. The big issue is the weight/size on the middle third. This height is something out of managements control. Without Kennedy we can pushed around. We had conn Oguz and donaghy around there with none of them really making an impact. Oguz took his goal well but conn was v rusty.

Kildare young fellas in the middle are wellover 6ft and with size. For all of the players coming through Conor Oneill would be the biggest. Great to see the link up play between Darragh and Mcelholm and everything about Jordan was good.

Joey Clarke, Ronan Cassidy and Ben Cullen were pretty good as well so plenty to take from it. The more experienced lads where off it a bit