Man Utd Thread:

[tiempo]

Thats Carrick who did worse in his time over Middlesborough than Keane at Sunderland, and wans talk credentials like it means anything

Managerial stats

Michael Carrick

G139 W65 D25 L49. Win % 46.76

Roy Keane

G181 W70 D42 L69. Win % 38.7

You could use stats to suggest Kevin McStay was a better manager than Mick O'Dwyer, cop on

Keane brought her home 🏆 Carrick languished

[Aaron Boone]

Welcome home Michael.

[snoopdog]

Thats Carrick who did worse in his time over Middlesborough than Keane at Sunderland, and wans talk credentials like it means anything

Managerial stats

Michael Carrick

G139 W65 D25 L49. Win % 46.76

Roy Keane

G181 W70 D42 L69. Win % 38.7

You could use stats to suggest Kevin McStay was a better manager than Mick O'Dwyer, cop on

Keane brought her home 🏆 Carrick languished

How many of carricks games were in the Premier league?

[Blowitupref]

Thats Carrick who did worse in his time over Middlesborough than Keane at Sunderland, and wans talk credentials like it means anything

Managerial stats

Michael Carrick

G139 W65 D25 L49. Win % 46.76

Roy Keane

G181 W70 D42 L69. Win % 38.7

You could use stats to suggest Kevin McStay was a better manager than Mick O'Dwyer, cop on

Keane brought her home 🏆 Carrick languished

I wouldn't be able find stats for that if I even tried. You need to move on from Roy Keane, maybe he'll get the Irish job some day and we'll see can he improve his average win percentage.

[tiempo]

Carrick is EFL level at best, not cut out for the FA Premiership

[Cunny Funt]

Carrick back as the merry go round continues. He did ok with three tough games on paper on his short spell the last time

lost away to Watford on Nov 20th with Ole.

Away to Villareal - Nov 23rd
2-0 win (1.14 to 0.56 xG), 49% possession, 11 to 13 in shots.

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Maguire Telles
Mctominay Fred
Sancho VdB Martial
Ronaldo

Subs: Bruno, Rashford, Matić, Mata.
Unused subs: Henderson, Heaton, dalot, Bailly, amad, Lingard

Away to Chelsea - Nov 28th
1-1 draw (0.90 to 3.11 xG), 34% possession, 3 shots to 24

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Bailly Telles
Mctominay Matić Fred
Bruno
Sancho Rashford

Subs: Ronaldo, Lingard, van de beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Dalot, Jones, Mata, Martial, greenwood

Home to Arsenal - Dec 2nd
3-2 win (1.94 to 1.44 xG), 44% possession, 14 shots to 17

De Gea
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Telles
McTominay Fred
Rashford Bruno Sancho
Ronaldo

Subs: Lingard, Martial, Van de Beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Bailly, Jones, Amad, Mata, greenwood

Rangnick came in for the game vs Palace on Dec 5th.

Doesn't get any tougher than to play Man City,Arsenal in his first two games on his return. I expect a 7th or 8th place finish to the season at best.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Where is this Keane obsession coming from?

He hasn't managed in 15 years. He isn't in the frame for any jobs. He fell out with the decision makers at United when he was relevant. I would wager serious loot he hasn't been/won't be mentioned. He is a pundit now. Move on.

[johnnycool]

Carrick back as the merry go round continues. He did ok with three tough games on paper on his short spell the last time

lost away to Watford on Nov 20th with Ole.

Away to Villareal - Nov 23rd
2-0 win (1.14 to 0.56 xG), 49% possession, 11 to 13 in shots.

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Maguire Telles
Mctominay Fred
Sancho VdB Martial
Ronaldo

Subs: Bruno, Rashford, Matić, Mata.
Unused subs: Henderson, Heaton, dalot, Bailly, amad, Lingard

Away to Chelsea - Nov 28th
1-1 draw (0.90 to 3.11 xG), 34% possession, 3 shots to 24

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Bailly Telles
Mctominay Matić Fred
Bruno
Sancho Rashford

Subs: Ronaldo, Lingard, van de beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Dalot, Jones, Mata, Martial, greenwood

Home to Arsenal - Dec 2nd
3-2 win (1.94 to 1.44 xG), 44% possession, 14 shots to 17

De Gea
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Telles
McTominay Fred
Rashford Bruno Sancho
Ronaldo

Subs: Lingard, Martial, Van de Beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Bailly, Jones, Amad, Mata, greenwood

Rangnick came in for the game vs Palace on Dec 5th.

Doesn't get any tougher than to play Man City,Arsenal in his first two games on his return. I expect a 7th or 8th place finish to the season at best.

So Fletcher was the interim, interim manager.

Cheapskate Ratcliffe will be hoping he does a decent enough job so that he can pay him buttons to take it on over the summer.

[thewobbler]

Where is this Keane obsession coming from?

He hasn't managed in 15 years. He isn't in the frame for any jobs. He fell out with the decision makers at United when he was relevant. I would wager serious loot he hasn't been/won't be mentioned. He is a pundit now. Move on.

He's a cult figure and has cult followers; people who will happily state that Haaland deserved to to have his knee smashed in two, and people who take pride in Keane walking out on his country.

When you wonder about how Trump can pull the wool over so many people's eyes, Keane is not a bad reference point for the same thing happening on a local level.

[AustinPowers]

Carrick back as the merry go round continues. He did ok with three tough games on paper on his short spell the last time

lost away to Watford on Nov 20th with Ole.

Away to Villareal - Nov 23rd
2-0 win (1.14 to 0.56 xG), 49% possession, 11 to 13 in shots.

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Maguire Telles
Mctominay Fred
Sancho VdB Martial
Ronaldo

Subs: Bruno, Rashford, Matić, Mata.
Unused subs: Henderson, Heaton, dalot, Bailly, amad, Lingard

Away to Chelsea - Nov 28th
1-1 draw (0.90 to 3.11 xG), 34% possession, 3 shots to 24

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Bailly Telles
Mctominay Matić Fred
Bruno
Sancho Rashford

Subs: Ronaldo, Lingard, van de beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Dalot, Jones, Mata, Martial, greenwood

Home to Arsenal - Dec 2nd
3-2 win (1.94 to 1.44 xG), 44% possession, 14 shots to 17

De Gea
Dalot Lindelof Maguire Telles
McTominay Fred
Rashford Bruno Sancho
Ronaldo

Subs: Lingard, Martial, Van de Beek
Unused subs: Henderson, Bailly, Jones, Amad, Mata, greenwood

Rangnick came in for the game vs Palace on Dec 5th.

Doesn't get any tougher than to play Man City,Arsenal in his first two games on his return. I expect a 7th or 8th place finish to the season at best.

So Fletcher was the interim, interim manager.

Cheapskate Ratcliffe will be hoping he does a decent enough job so that he can pay him buttons to take it on over the summer.

Carrick is hardly  much of an upgrade from Fletcher tbh.

Im assuming  they just want to tread water until  the summer , and see who  they can get then. But who  the frig would want it?  

[tiempo]

Where is this Keane obsession coming from?

He hasn't managed in 15 years. He isn't in the frame for any jobs. He fell out with the decision makers at United when he was relevant. I would wager serious loot he hasn't been/won't be mentioned. He is a pundit now. Move on.

He's a cult figure and has cult followers; people who will happily state that Haaland deserved to to have his knee smashed in two, and people who take pride in Keane walking out on his country.

When you wonder about how Trump can pull the wool over so many people's eyes, Keane is not a bad reference point for the same thing happening on a local level.

Ah jes, last man out switch off the lights

Wilcox Carrick nexus to the moon

[Armagh18]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

[NAG1]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

Until they sort the place out this will continue to happen, no young talented player is going to take a risk on signing for a basket case that is United at the moment. This is where you end up in the vicious cycle they are in at the moment, trying to buy from the second tier talent pool hoping that one or two of them are the real deal.

It is not a short term fix.

[tiempo]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

Put a sock in it Wayne lad

Could Ferguson Keane not look at Paisley McGuinness for a bit of inspo?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

Until they sort the place out this will continue to happen, no young talented player is going to take a risk on signing for a basket case that is United at the moment. This is where you end up in the vicious cycle they are in at the moment, trying to buy from the second tier talent pool hoping that one or two of them are the real deal.

It is not a short term fix.

It could be.

Look at every successful managerial reign. Ferguson. Wenger. Guardiola. Klopp. Charlton. Even Stephen Bradley.

They have total control of the club/team. Tactics, transfers, discipline, culture. They decide. No board interference.

Not all of those managers got that power overnight, but the recurring theme is they are trusted run the soccer side of the club.

Chelsea pointedly don't run on those grounds. The manager is like an executive in business. Replaceable. But you know that going in.

There are far too many layers of self serving bureaucratic nonsense at United. Waaaayyy too many chefs and not all of them on the level, nevermind competent. A manager needs to dislodge that to have any chance. But he needs to be successful in order to do so. So it's a circular problem.