Man Utd Thread:

[tiempo]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

Put a sock in it Wayne lad

Could Ferguson Keane not look at Paisley McGuinness for a bit of inspo?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Any chance of stopping the Keane talk, Jim Gavin has a better chance of getting that job.

Sorry state of affairs at United, watching City buy up all the best talent, Semenyo scoring tonight, another player United apparently fucked up signing in the summer

Until they sort the place out this will continue to happen, no young talented player is going to take a risk on signing for a basket case that is United at the moment. This is where you end up in the vicious cycle they are in at the moment, trying to buy from the second tier talent pool hoping that one or two of them are the real deal.

It is not a short term fix.

It could be.

Look at every successful managerial reign. Ferguson. Wenger. Guardiola. Klopp. Charlton. Even Stephen Bradley.

They have total control of the club/team. Tactics, transfers, discipline, culture. They decide. No board interference.

Not all of those managers got that power overnight, but the recurring theme is they are trusted run the soccer side of the club.

Chelsea pointedly don't run on those grounds. The manager is like an executive in business. Replaceable. But you know that going in.

There are far too many layers of self serving bureaucratic nonsense at United. Waaaayyy too many chefs and not all of them on the level, nevermind competent. A manager needs to dislodge that to have any chance. But he needs to be successful in order to do so. So it's a circular problem.

[Lamps]

Look at every successful managerial reign. Ferguson. Wenger. Guardiola. Klopp. Charlton. Even Stephen Bradley.

I thought Klopp had his transfers picked for him by the FSG transfer committee and their stats machine?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Look at every successful managerial reign. Ferguson. Wenger. Guardiola. Klopp. Charlton. Even Stephen Bradley.

I thought Klopp had his transfers picked for him by the FSG transfer committee and their stats machine?

At the start. He fought, and won, to have them rubber stamp his picks.

[Armagh18]

Troy Parrott on loan?

[statto]

Troy Parrott on loan?

AZ would surely not sanction a loan?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Troy Parrott on loan?

AZ would surely not sanction a loan?

Why would he make that move?

Scored a hattrick v Ajax at the weekend, in the European places, playing the football of his career

[JPGJOHNNYG]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

[Dag Dog]

Gyökeres is an example of someone who can bang them in if playing in a farmer's league, but falls short at the top.

[Baile Brigín 2]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

Signing for united might be more lucrative, but he had just gotten his career back on track. He would be nuts to sit on a bench at a club in flux.

[Look-Up!]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

Signing for united might be more lucrative, but he had just gotten his career back on track. He would be nuts to sit on a bench at a club in flux.

Yeah, just got his career back on track and still only 23. If he is good enough to ever make it at a club like Utd, he has the perfect age profile to knuckle down at AZ for next year or two, build on his rep, and sign for a huge club while still only coming into his prime.

[Baile Brigín 2]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

Signing for united might be more lucrative, but he had just gotten his career back on track. He would be nuts to sit on a bench at a club in flux.

Yeah, just got his career back on track and still only 23. If he is good enough to ever make it at a club like Utd, he has the perfect age profile to knuckle down at AZ for next year or two, build on his rep, and sign for a huge club while still only coming into his prime.

I think he will do a jump to a Werder Bremen or similar for a year or two before going back to England

[Look-Up!]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

Signing for united might be more lucrative, but he had just gotten his career back on track. He would be nuts to sit on a bench at a club in flux.

Yeah, just got his career back on track and still only 23. If he is good enough to ever make it at a club like Utd, he has the perfect age profile to knuckle down at AZ for next year or two, build on his rep, and sign for a huge club while still only coming into his prime.

I think he will do a jump to a Werder Bremen or similar for a year or two before going back to England

Hopefully he has matured and learned his lessons. Huge player there if he can stay focused on hard work and not get swayed by money and celebrity.

[clonian]

You would wonder is he at that level and then you look at some of the crap Utd have had recently and realise he would actually probably do quite well

Signing for united might be more lucrative, but he had just gotten his career back on track. He would be nuts to sit on a bench at a club in flux.

Yeah, just got his career back on track and still only 23. If he is good enough to ever make it at a club like Utd, he has the perfect age profile to knuckle down at AZ for next year or two, build on his rep, and sign for a huge club while still only coming into his prime.

I think he will do a jump to a Werder Bremen or similar for a year or two before going back to England

If I was advising him, I'd tell him to stay away from England altogether.

[Armagh18]

England is where the money is though. As a United fan you'd love to see him go there and be an option even off the bench, might grab a goal or two. As an Irish fan you'd be telling him to stay away from that clown show and keep devloping