Club Championships 2025

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, July 29, 2025, 11:06:11 AM

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Wildweasel74

Its not elsewhere either, but a Derry,Tyrone,Armagh,Donegal,Down, division 1 League team will never be playing Junior football!

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Btw,there are 58 football clubs in Kerry in case it matters.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

downtothecore

It doesn't feel right when a division 1 team wins junior... the gaa will have to get back round this. It needs to be level playing field.

general_lee

I get that "LeAgUe AnD cHaMpIoNsHiP aRe sEpErAtE" but it just allows for these anomalies for clubs that are at the worst a decent intermediate team getting to a handy Junior AI title.

Like when them Ballymac players go up against Stacks or Dr Crokes in the league, what's their mindset? Do they view themselves as junior players then or what?

JoG2

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Quote from: Jerome on January 11, 2026, 09:10:09 AMThe team from Kerry that are playing in the junior final are playing Division 1 league. How's that fair. Kerry at it again.
And the team from Kerry that are playing in the senior final next week were in Division 2. Na Gaeil are senior and couldn't get promoted from Division 3, with 3 games to go they were in relegation trouble.

League is more or less irrelevant in Kerry, no county players, whether that be senior or underage, available for most of it so any club like Ballymac that don't have any are at a big advantage. Add in the others that are away in college or have moved away and only travel back for championship, particularly in South and West Kerry, and there's very little that can be read into league form.

Senior championship, club championships and district championships all far more important.

I've said it before, you play div 1 and hold your own, you are not a junior level club.. Nowhere near it

Jerome, to answer your question, yes Kerry Div 1
They were relegated with 1 win from 11 games so hardly held their own. Only 4 of the clubs in Division 1 last year were senior so they were effectively being beaten every week by intermediate clubs.

70 odd clubs in Kerry, you play Div 1 you are not junior grade by any measurement

LEAGUE IS NOT CHAMPIONSHIP. Repeat 100 times it might go through your brain a bit better.

Behave yourself... Div 1 level / div 1 prep

oakleaflad

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Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 11, 2026, 02:38:11 PMAre people simple or what? League and championship are totally spearate in Kerry, played at different times of year, one with county players/one without.
Personally have no real issue with league and championship being separate. Kerry should have more than 8 senior clubs though. But that's their choice until something is done about it.

There are 9 Senior clubs, going up to 10 next year. Tried to make it 12 with 8 divisional teams but Croke park wouldn't allow it.
And how many clubs in Kerry in total?

Im just saying we've 16 senior clubs out of 40 in total in Derry. You can see why people complain.

16 Senior clubs out of 40 total? That's stupid to me.

There's 60 odd clubs and 5 grades in Kerry. 10 Senior-16 Intermediate-Premier Junior & Junior. The rest are Novice.

Good win for Ballymac. Much better second half from them. Clogher poor finishing in second especially cost them.
And me but our 17th ranked club are the Intermediate final vs your 10th out of more clubs.

Gael85

An Ghaeltacht great odds at 7/5. Won't be as poor as the last day.

general_lee

Do youse Derry boys not think Glenullin have had the upper edge having played Division 1 football all year against SFC standard teams? 

gallsman

Could we ever leave this relentless whining behind. As stated numerous times, league and championship are completely separate and unrelated. Some counties are different. End of story.

The issue with Kerry for years has been their 9th best club being intermediate whereas in a county like Cork, with Premier Senior and Senior A, their intermediate champions are the 33rd best club in the county. This is finally being addressed, somewhat, by the increase of the number of clubs at senior. With the consolidation of the new North Kerry division for adult football this year, is there potential for it to increase to 11?

gallsman

Yeah, I'd not be arguing too much about how Glenullin are really up against it at intermediate level given this is their 62643874th bite at the cherry in the last few years.

oakleaflad

Quote from: general_lee on January 11, 2026, 03:07:22 PMDo youse Derry boys not think Glenullin have had the upper edge having played Division 1 football all year against SFC standard teams? 
Not really. This has been talked about at length but our leagues are over long ago and are not taken very seriously at all. They'd have had as much a challenge in Intermediate championship as Div 1 league in terms of preparation.

Stall the Bailer

At All Ireland level there is 3 grades. Most counties split their championship in 3 with a fairly even split between them. Kerry are one of the outliers who don't split the divisions like this.

general_lee

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Quote from: general_lee on January 11, 2026, 03:07:22 PMDo youse Derry boys not think Glenullin have had the upper edge having played Division 1 football all year against SFC standard teams? 
Not really. This has been talked about at length but our leagues are over long ago and are not taken very seriously at all. They'd have had as much a challenge in Intermediate championship as Div 1 league in terms of preparation.
Surely facing Glen, Slaughtneil, Bellaghy, Lavey etc "not taking their league seriously" is better prep than Claudy, Desertmartin, etc doing same.

blanketattack

Quote from: Stall the Bailer on January 11, 2026, 03:11:17 PMAt All Ireland level there is 3 grades. Most counties split their championship in 3 with a fairly even split between them. Kerry are one of the outliers who don't split the divisions like this.

Huh???
2025 Kerry Championship:
16 senior teams
16 intermediate teams
16 junior teams

gallsman

Of those 16 senior teams, because of the divisional setup only 9 were clubs is the issue. Last year it was only 8. Next year is due to go up to 10.