The Many Faces of US Politics...

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PadraicHenryPearse

More similar to what Yeman and the Houtis did imo but not the same reaction unsurprisingly.

johnnycool

https://x.com/i/status/1999217389813268606

An interesting video on why the US is so interested in Venezuela's oil even when they're drilling like never before in the US.

You'd normally just ask, why not buy the crude on the open market from Venezuela like you are from Canada, but that is a  very simplistic and naive outlook from me.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on December 12, 2025, 11:13:53 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/1999217389813268606

An interesting video on why the US is so interested in Venezuela's oil even when they're drilling like never before in the US.

You'd normally just ask, why not buy the crude on the open market from Venezuela like you are from Canada, but that is a  very simplistic and naive outlook from me.



Where do you get your oil based products Johnny?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

J70

Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 10:28:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 09:25:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 08:16:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 05:40:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on December 11, 2025, 04:36:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2025, 03:48:57 PMI'd say the Hispanic voters for Trump are regretting now with his Gestapo/ICE agents rounding up everyone with brown skin they can find..

Are they aye.

Yeah, they are.

Stephen Miller has quotas he needs met, and they're just going out and chancing their arm a lot of the time, questioning anyone brown who happens to cross their path. God help you if you don't your papers.

And anyone planning to visit the US in the coming months and years, they're talking about searching your online history and social media before allowing you in.

If you have a Trump or Vance meme on your phone or Facebook, you might be shit out of luck.

Should help attendances at the World Cup next year.

So looking back in the cold light of day, was 4 years of open borders under Biden  worth it?

Were sanctuary policies worth it? where rapists and murderers we're let walk free and not handed over to law enforcement

Was it worth it for the media to lie to the American people and gaslight them for 4 years about what Biden and Kamala were doing?

We have discussed this many times here before and you know where I stand-enforce the border and get the 10M+ who are already here undocumented on a
Pathway to citizenship





Rapists and murderers are/were let walk free in sanctuary cities?


Obviously some of Biden's immigration policies were a huge mistake.

Yes

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/17/ice-arrests-violent-illegal-alien-child-rapist-released-richmonds-sanctuary


Sorry, I thought you meant they were released without trial or conviction.

But yeah, if that's true (it's not like bald-faced lying isn't the major part of Tricia McLoughlin's job), that's fucked up and something I do not support. And ultimately self-defeating, politically, to give its basest analysis.

You can have some sanctuary city policies that encourage cooperation and engagement with the law and justice system without going to the extreme of witholding someone like that from immigration authorities.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-violent-gang-member-guilty-murder-after-maximum-security-prison-releases

I really don't understand it

If I was a regular Democrats I would be absolutely furious with the likes of Pritzker

This is why Trump is sending ICE out into the neighborhoods-to find these guys

Ok, that's one thing for sure.

However, the large majority of those being rounded up without any due process, literally being randomly abducted off the streets and out of their family's lives without warning, have no criminal record and are simply being targeted due to their skin colour and Miller's quotas. In some cases, some of them are actual citizens. They made up lies annd disobeyed court orders about a bunch of the Venezuelans and others they shipped off to the horrific gulag in El Salvador.

In other more non-random cases, they were DACA "dreamers" who've been in the country since they were young kids, but had some non-criminal struggles e.g. the mother of the nephew of that weapon of a press secretary where the Leavitt family appear to want her out of the picture. And in yet others, they're sweeping up people who've been in the country for literally decades, have served the country in combat and been awarded military medals for their service e.g. the fellow who was deported to Korea and whose case appears to have caught Noem lying to Congress yesterday (one wonders if she'll be brought up on charges like Comey was?).

Nothing the Dems did or didn't do justifies the fascist tactics and the sadistic glorying in terrorizing these people that Trump and his MAGA minions and hordes are currently inflicting on the country.

Armagh18

Quote from: J70 on December 12, 2025, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 10:28:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 09:25:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 08:16:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 11, 2025, 05:40:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 11, 2025, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on December 11, 2025, 04:36:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2025, 03:48:57 PMI'd say the Hispanic voters for Trump are regretting now with his Gestapo/ICE agents rounding up everyone with brown skin they can find..

Are they aye.

Yeah, they are.

Stephen Miller has quotas he needs met, and they're just going out and chancing their arm a lot of the time, questioning anyone brown who happens to cross their path. God help you if you don't your papers.

And anyone planning to visit the US in the coming months and years, they're talking about searching your online history and social media before allowing you in.

If you have a Trump or Vance meme on your phone or Facebook, you might be shit out of luck.

Should help attendances at the World Cup next year.

So looking back in the cold light of day, was 4 years of open borders under Biden  worth it?

Were sanctuary policies worth it? where rapists and murderers we're let walk free and not handed over to law enforcement

Was it worth it for the media to lie to the American people and gaslight them for 4 years about what Biden and Kamala were doing?

We have discussed this many times here before and you know where I stand-enforce the border and get the 10M+ who are already here undocumented on a
Pathway to citizenship





Rapists and murderers are/were let walk free in sanctuary cities?


Obviously some of Biden's immigration policies were a huge mistake.

Yes

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/17/ice-arrests-violent-illegal-alien-child-rapist-released-richmonds-sanctuary


Sorry, I thought you meant they were released without trial or conviction.

But yeah, if that's true (it's not like bald-faced lying isn't the major part of Tricia McLoughlin's job), that's fucked up and something I do not support. And ultimately self-defeating, politically, to give its basest analysis.

You can have some sanctuary city policies that encourage cooperation and engagement with the law and justice system without going to the extreme of witholding someone like that from immigration authorities.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-violent-gang-member-guilty-murder-after-maximum-security-prison-releases

I really don't understand it

If I was a regular Democrats I would be absolutely furious with the likes of Pritzker

This is why Trump is sending ICE out into the neighborhoods-to find these guys

Ok, that's one thing for sure.

However, the large majority of those being rounded up without any due process, literally being randomly abducted off the streets and out of their family's lives without warning, have no criminal record and are simply being targeted due to their skin colour and Miller's quotas. In some cases, some of them are actual citizens. They made up lies annd disobeyed court orders about a bunch of the Venezuelans and others they shipped off to the horrific gulag in El Salvador.

In other more non-random cases, they were DACA "dreamers" who've been in the country since they were young kids, but had some non-criminal struggles e.g. the mother of the nephew of that weapon of a press secretary where the Leavitt family appear to want her out of the picture. And in yet others, they're sweeping up people who've been in the country for literally decades, have served the country in combat and been awarded military medals for their service e.g. the fellow who was deported to Korea and whose case appears to have caught Noem lying to Congress yesterday (one wonders if she'll be brought up on charges like Comey was?).

Nothing the Dems did or didn't do justifies the fascist tactics and the sadistic glorying in terrorizing these people that Trump and his MAGA minions and hordes are currently inflicting on the country.
They tried to deport a Native American ffs.

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2025, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 12, 2025, 11:13:53 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/1999217389813268606

An interesting video on why the US is so interested in Venezuela's oil even when they're drilling like never before in the US.

You'd normally just ask, why not buy the crude on the open market from Venezuela like you are from Canada, but that is a  very simplistic and naive outlook from me.



Where do you get your oil based products Johnny?
Tesco for the chip pan, Bangor Fuels for the home heating oil, varies for the cars, why do you ask?

Milltown Row2

Probably tried to deport him to India ffs!!

Trump on the tanker! The man is bonkers.. biggest tanker ever seized lol!

Didn't realise they had a table on tankers being boarded by navy seals

How many voted him in again? I love the answer, 77 million muppets  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

whitey

As a tax paying and law abiding citizen I find it bordering on insane that Democratic States and Cities refuse to hand rapists, child molesters, murderers, repeat drunk drivers, violent criminals and drug dealers over to ICE for deportation

If they were handed over and these ludicrous policies were rescinded a lot of these ICE raids would cease

Be mad all you want at ICE and Trump, but Democrats 100% created this problem

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2025, 02:28:55 PMProbably tried to deport him to India ffs!!

Trump on the tanker! The man is bonkers.. biggest tanker ever seized lol!

Didn't realise they had a table on tankers being boarded by navy seals

How many voted him in again? I love the answer, 77 million muppets  ;D

That's how bad Kamala was

77,000,000 people knew Trump would do a better job

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on December 12, 2025, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2025, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 12, 2025, 11:13:53 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/1999217389813268606

An interesting video on why the US is so interested in Venezuela's oil even when they're drilling like never before in the US.

You'd normally just ask, why not buy the crude on the open market from Venezuela like you are from Canada, but that is a  very simplistic and naive outlook from me.



Where do you get your oil based products Johnny?
Tesco for the chip pan, Bangor Fuels for the home heating oil, varies for the cars, why do you ask?

Oil is need for much more that your shopping as well as you know.

Getting oil or acquiring it illegally as in this case for instance we tend to give off, but not worry too much as to where or how it's got to your door for your basic needs, plus for the other stuff oil is used for.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on December 12, 2025, 02:30:12 PMAs a tax paying and law abiding citizen I find it bordering on insane that Democratic States and Cities refuse to hand rapists, child molesters, murderers, repeat drunk drivers, violent criminals and drug dealers over to ICE for deportation

If they were handed over and these ludicrous policies were rescinded a lot of these ICE raids would cease

Be mad all you want at ICE and Trump, but Democrats 100% created this problem

How many illegal Irish have you handed over?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2025, 02:28:55 PMProbably tried to deport him to India ffs!!

Trump on the tanker! The man is bonkers.. biggest tanker ever seized lol!

Didn't realise they had a table on tankers being boarded by navy seals

How many voted him in again? I love the answer, 77 million muppets  ;D
Rhymes with tanker alright

Armagh18

Quote from: whitey on December 12, 2025, 02:30:12 PMAs a tax paying and law abiding citizen I find it bordering on insane that Democratic States and Cities refuse to hand rapists, child molesters, murderers, repeat drunk drivers, violent criminals and drug dealers over to ICE for deportation

If they were handed over and these ludicrous policies were rescinded a lot of these ICE raids would cease

Be mad all you want at ICE and Trump, but Democrats 100% created this problem
I don't believe that for a second..

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2025, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 12, 2025, 02:30:12 PMAs a tax paying and law abiding citizen I find it bordering on insane that Democratic States and Cities refuse to hand rapists, child molesters, murderers, repeat drunk drivers, violent criminals and drug dealers over to ICE for deportation

If they were handed over and these ludicrous policies were rescinded a lot of these ICE raids would cease

Be mad all you want at ICE and Trump, but Democrats 100% created this problem

How many illegal Irish have you handed over?


As I've stated here many times, if people are here illegally and are otherwise law Abiding I have no issue

I find it surprising that you are rooting for rapists murderers and drug dealers over regular law abiding people

Decades of British occupation certainly did a number on you guys.

whitey

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2025, 02:38:59 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 12, 2025, 02:30:12 PMAs a tax paying and law abiding citizen I find it bordering on insane that Democratic States and Cities refuse to hand rapists, child molesters, murderers, repeat drunk drivers, violent criminals and drug dealers over to ICE for deportation

If they were handed over and these ludicrous policies were rescinded a lot of these ICE raids would cease

Be mad all you want at ICE and Trump, but Democrats 100% created this problem
I don't believe that for a second..

Believe what you want

These cities and states were ordered to refund these insane sanctuary policies and they refused...many actually doubled down

So yes, be mad at Trump and ICE, but the door was left wide open for them by the Democrats

Holman said on day one that if they had to go into the community to lift rapists child molesters and drug dealers  (rather than pick them up at the jail or courthouse)  they would encounter and detain other illegals