The UK Labour Party

[seafoid]

The latest wheeze seems to be to reduce the threshold for the 40p and 45p rates thus bringing more people into the higher marginal rate bands while freezing the threshold for the 20p rate, ensuring that as wages rise most people pay more in tax.

I think this will be popular with the public as most people don't know what tax thresholds are and a competent government would spin this as people who earn more pay more.

The rates of tax in the UK are mental.

A 50k threshold is not what it was 10 years ago.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/budget-2025-extra-370m-for-northern-ireland-far-short-of-what-is-needed-says-finance-minister/a2061171961.html

Over the past five years, the number of higher rate income taxpayers (40%) in Northern Ireland has doubled to 131,000.

"One in seven Northern Ireland income taxpayers are now paying the higher or additional rates and this will increase to close to one in five by 2030. It was one in 18 in 2000."

[Armagh18]

The way it's going it won't be long til minimum wage workers are in the higher bracket ffs

[Armagh18]

Cheer up Munchie it's nearly Christmas

[Milltown Row2]

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[Deerstalker]

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Forgot to log out by the look of it

[Armagh18]

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Forgot to log out by the look of it

Meant to post in the United Ireland thread. Poor Munchie having a bad day.

[seafoid]

What's the thoughts on Zack Polanski? See him popping up a fair bit now with a lot of sound bites. Comes across well from what I've seen and seems to be saying a lot of things that hit home imo. Seems to be keener on hitting the rich than most. But no doubt there'll be inconsistencies when you dig a little deeper.

Grade A bullshitter.

Get a hint of that alright, but being leader of the Green Party, he's going to have to over egg things to get screen time. Similar to Reform to a degree trying to make headlines. He talks well in any interviews I've seen.

Greens and Reform would always have been treated as the tails of a bell curve but that **** Farage seems to have Reform moving towards much greater popularity. Hopefully that doesn't transfer into votes in a GE when people wake up to the fact that he could be running the country. A hung parliament a very likely outcome.

Labour and the Tories are polling low. On current polling Reform would win 346 seats. Tories 14. Reform is unstable. Anything could happen in a GE.

[Munchie]

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Forgot to log out by the look of it

Meant to post in the United Ireland thread. Poor Munchie having a bad day.

I am not having a bad day, since when is posting facts tantamount to having a bad day, suspect those taking umbrage my points are a little too close to home.

[trileacman]

Media getting stuck into Starmer today, I think they're out for blood, either his or the chancellors.

[playwiththewind1st]

Media getting stuck into Starmer today, I think they're out for blood, either his or the chancellors.

Peston was extremely critical the other night on the ITV News & I see Chris Mason calling them out on the BBC's website today.

It looks like Starmer & Reeves are allowed latitude to tell the general public any ould shite, but the journalists are now up in arms when they've been used to convey a message that now looks like it was blatantly untrue.

In the old days, Reeves would have been toast by now. It's a sign of how far standards have slipped in public life & in politics that she's still there in post & doing the rounds, telling us to suck it up.

She's completely useless, impervious to criticism & is armed with a brass neck. Starmer is even worse.

The fact that the 2 of them are having to defend their position in the media, day after day, would tend to suggest to the reasonable onlooker that they're both in the wrong.

It won't go away quickly, especially if the media are now on the warpath because they were used, lied to & they're after blood.

[imtommygunn]

I would say Reeves will go in the next few weeks.

[playwiththewind1st]

I would say Reeves will go in the next few weeks.

The trouble is....who would replace her?

People are now going into politics, as a career choice. They have no real experience of anything else; they live their lives within the Westminster bubble & they know absolutely nothing of the real world outside of their confined environment.

 It's got to the stage that the political classes are no longer part of the problem. They are the problem.

They seem to think that politics = using their social media presence to tell us how wonderful they are, thinking that we are gullible enough to buy it.

[Munchie]

She never believed in scrapping the two-child benefit, that was to keep her job.

[playwiththewind1st]

She never believed in scrapping the two-child benefit, that was to keep her job.

They scrapped the 2 child benefit cap solely because, as a party, they were seeking to keep in with the demographic which they think will stick with them & still vote for them [instead of Reform] @ the next election.

[imtommygunn]

I would say Reeves will go in the next few weeks.

The trouble is....who would replace her?

People are now going into politics, as a career choice. They have no real experience of anything else; they live their lives within the Westminster bubble & they know absolutely nothing of the real world outside of their confined environment.

 It's got to the stage that the political classes are no longer part of the problem. They are the problem.

They seem to think that politics = using their social media presence to tell us how wonderful they are, thinking that we are gullible enough to buy it.

For me it's not the know is the problem - it's the care.