America`s Gun Culture

Started by Wildweasel74, December 14, 2012, 06:00:57 PM

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thewobbler

"People should be allowed to say whatever they want, as long as I agree with them" is also off the charts in the US.

Actually the whole country is off the charts. And all the people in Ireland who are determined that a "right" and a "left" exists over here are every bit as demented and dangerous. The last thing we need are polarised sides to politics, whereby lunatics feel protected by their side, and fundamentalists become so entrenched they cannot make their own minds up. These sides don't currently exist. Stop making them up. Let's not be America. It was a fun idea and had potentials. But it doesn't work. We'd be better off under the English monarchy and class system.


johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on September 16, 2025, 07:47:00 AMKirk was an extremist.


https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b
"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Charlie Kirk asked


There is a lot of hate coming from the GOP side.There is no talk of reconciliation.

https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b

Laura Loomer, a rightwing activist whose lobbying has prompted Trump to fire members of his administration, said on X it was time to "shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organisation".

Polarisation is off the charts in the US.


It's the beginning of the fall of the US Empire.

Like the Roman Empire it will crumble from within.


brokencrossbar1

Quote from: johnnycool on September 16, 2025, 08:08:18 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 16, 2025, 07:47:00 AMKirk was an extremist.


https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b
"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Charlie Kirk asked


There is a lot of hate coming from the GOP side.There is no talk of reconciliation.

https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b

Laura Loomer, a rightwing activist whose lobbying has prompted Trump to fire members of his administration, said on X it was time to "shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organisation".

Polarisation is off the charts in the US.


It's the beginning of the fall of the US Empire.

Like the Roman Empire it will crumble from within.



The comparisons with the Roman Empire are interesting and have been made more and more. As an entity the USA is significantly larger than the Roman Empire ever was.

It is not inconceivable that the states themselves will start breaking away. The likes of Alaska and Texas are as big as France and Germany combined so certainly have the geographical size to be independent. It's not going to happen over night but it could well start happening if the sense is that they are stronger alone than combined. Some of the richer states may feel they have been propping up 'poorer' states for too long through federalism.

johnnycool

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2025, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 16, 2025, 08:08:18 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 16, 2025, 07:47:00 AMKirk was an extremist.


https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b
"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Charlie Kirk asked


There is a lot of hate coming from the GOP side.There is no talk of reconciliation.

https://www.ft.com/content/3b6574ac-f8db-4998-9a91-e7f4bbe70a9b

Laura Loomer, a rightwing activist whose lobbying has prompted Trump to fire members of his administration, said on X it was time to "shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organisation".

Polarisation is off the charts in the US.


It's the beginning of the fall of the US Empire.

Like the Roman Empire it will crumble from within.



The comparisons with the Roman Empire are interesting and have been made more and more. As an entity the USA is significantly larger than the Roman Empire ever was.

It is not inconceivable that the states themselves will start breaking away. The likes of Alaska and Texas are as big as France and Germany combined so certainly have the geographical size to be independent. It's not going to happen over night but it could well start happening if the sense is that they are stronger alone than combined. Some of the richer states may feel they have been propping up 'poorer' states for too long through federalism.

Historically Republicans wanted more autonomy for the states with less overreach from the Federal Government, but are cheering from the rafters when Trump sends in the national guard to the likes of Memphis, Washington DC and maybe Chicago.

Trump is just a disruptor oblivious of the long term consequences of his actions. He just doesn't care.

DaleCooper

Quote from: thewobbler on September 16, 2025, 08:03:06 AM"People should be allowed to say whatever they want, as long as I agree with them" is also off the charts in the US.

Actually the whole country is off the charts. And all the people in Ireland who are determined that a "right" and a "left" exists over here are every bit as demented and dangerous. The last thing we need are polarised sides to politics, whereby lunatics feel protected by their side, and fundamentalists become so entrenched they cannot make their own minds up. These sides don't currently exist. Stop making them up. Let's not be America. It was a fun idea and had potentials. But it doesn't work. We'd be better off under the English monarchy and class system.



Ireland is an American vassal, you seem to think there is a choice?

You don't get American multinational corporate culture without changing your own.

Main Street

I came across a comment on Threads
"I can't believe Charlie Kirk was actually less annoying when he was alive"

Eamonnca1

#1851
Seems like MAGA is going on full denial mode that the shooter was one of them. Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled for saying he was one of them. Here's what he said:

"The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."

Nothing inaccurate there, but his show has been pulled just for speaking the truth. They've threatened to pull ABC's license over it.

Oh and today I had a little call from HR to warn me that someone is watching me on Twitter. They reviewed my comments on Twitter and found that I'm not in violation of any policies and didn't say anything inappropriate, so I'm not in trouble.

But here we are. This is Orwellian stuff.

Rois

Not sure if this fits in here, but did anyone see the Channel 4 show last night "Trump vs The Truth"?
2hrs 45 mins where 100 of Trump's comments/statements/rants were proven ti be factually incorrect. Fascinating stuff. He just makes stuff up consistently.

Armagh18

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on September 18, 2025, 12:30:10 AMSeems like MAGA is going on full denial mode that the shooter was one of them. Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled for saying he was one of them. Here's what he said:

"The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."

Nothing inaccurate there, but his show has been pulled just for speaking the truth. They've threatened to pull ABC's license over it.

Oh and today I had a little call from HR to warn me that someone is watching me on Twitter. They reviewed my comments on Twitter and found that I'm not in violation of any policies and didn't say anything inappropriate, so I'm not in trouble.

But here we are. This is Orwellian stuff.
Time for a new job. Bastards.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

RedHand88

Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2025, 10:24:12 PMI came across a comment on Threads
"I can't believe Charlie Kirk was actually less annoying when he was alive"

Wtf?!
Hard to have any sympathy for anyone who gets in bother with work for the likes of this.

Armagh18

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 18, 2025, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2025, 10:24:12 PMI came across a comment on Threads
"I can't believe Charlie Kirk was actually less annoying when he was alive"

Wtf?!
Hard to have any sympathy for anyone who gets in bother with work for the likes of this.
Why? What has that got to do with anyones job?

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 18, 2025, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 18, 2025, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2025, 10:24:12 PMI came across a comment on Threads
"I can't believe Charlie Kirk was actually less annoying when he was alive"

Wtf?!
Hard to have any sympathy for anyone who gets in bother with work for the likes of this.
Why? What has that got to do with anyones job?

I know my job would have an online social media policy which basically says don't be an a**hole on the Internet.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 18, 2025, 09:07:09 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 18, 2025, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 18, 2025, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2025, 10:24:12 PMI came across a comment on Threads
"I can't believe Charlie Kirk was actually less annoying when he was alive"

Wtf?!
Hard to have any sympathy for anyone who gets in bother with work for the likes of this.
Why? What has that got to do with anyones job?

I know my job would have an online social media policy which basically says don't be an a**hole on the Internet.

Unless your online accounts can be directly linked to your work then legally there should be no action taken for what you put on your social media accounts,  unless it is illegal.

We are living in frightening times,  we are closer and closer to the edge by the day and when we step over there's no coming back

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: Rois on September 18, 2025, 06:17:16 AMNot sure if this fits in here, but did anyone see the Channel 4 show last night "Trump vs The Truth"?
2hrs 45 mins where 100 of Trump's comments/statements/rants were proven ti be factually incorrect. Fascinating stuff. He just makes stuff up consistently.

Didn't tip in Rois (the footie was on woman 😜) but the sheer length of the program alone says plenty