A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

Started by winghalfback, May 27, 2015, 03:16:23 PM

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DaleCooper

Voting should be restricted to those who have fully developed prefrontal cortexes.

weareros

As it's only for General Election, nationalist parties should not step aside for Alliance and aim to simply secure the highest possible percentage vote. 

johnnycool

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2025, 02:52:03 PMAs it's only for General Election, nationalist parties should not step aside for Alliance and aim to simply secure the highest possible percentage vote. 

I get where you're coming from but you'd hate to see the DUP taking Lagan Valley back...


marty34

Quote from: johnnycool on July 17, 2025, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2025, 02:52:03 PMAs it's only for General Election, nationalist parties should not step aside for Alliance and aim to simply secure the highest possible percentage vote. 

I get where you're coming from but you'd hate to see the DUP taking Lagan Valley back...



Unionism will combine and win it back the next time I think.

Same as East Derry. They'll go for an 'agreed candidate'.

I think unionism for sure will definately be against lowering the voting age.

AustinPowers

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 17, 2025, 02:47:03 PMVoting should be restricted to those who have fully developed prefrontal cortexes.

That would exclude  a hell  of a lot of the population though, to be fair

DaleCooper

12-14 year olds are being excluded so arguably it doesn't go far enough.



JPGJOHNNYG


weareros

The NIO has the "NI"'option to dilute things. The Life and Times survey just gives the British or Irish option and things not looking as rosy for British identity.

https://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2024/Political_Attitudes/IRBRIT.html

JPGJOHNNYG

Surprised at the Nilt survey it is usually way off and generally not in favour of nationalists. It regularly has Alliance as the highest supported party and the other parties support usually bear no resemblance of any actual election ever so I would normally not take much notice of it.

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: weareros on August 25, 2025, 11:03:26 PMThe NIO has the "NI"'option to dilute things. The Life and Times survey just gives the British or Irish option and things not looking as rosy for British identity.

https://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2024/Political_Attitudes/IRBRIT.html

The introduction of Irish, British and northern Irish into the census was definitely introduced to try and deflect and confuse people away from the community background figures

Rossfan

Is it a more accurate measure to gauge "Border poll" voting?
The "Northern Irish" will be the one to convince.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

To be fair there are a lot of 'mixed' marriages in the north compared to 30/40 years ago. Those kids growing up in todays mixed marriages generally are not christened so their identity of being prod/taig isn't a thing nor is their feeling of full Irish identity either..

5% during the troubles to 20% now.. google is your friend

So there is a fair few with identity issues and they could be the swing voters, they, I doubt very much are actually into politics so to get this right I feel, the calls for a ref should not be from political parties per say, but a grouping that is non political and has the advantages and disadvantages  laid out
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tiempo

Punts in your pocket and healthcare will be the 2 big ticket items when it comes to the crunch, the PUL community have one last chance now to treat their neighbours with equality such that middle of the road nationalists vote to preserve the Union. The increase in mixed marriages points to better relations than before but in the end supremacy is the only show in town for the OO and OWC brigade, their shite for brain approach will sabotage any chance of the UK remaining intact, theres a very obvious direction of travel, over time this will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I honestly believe quite a good number of OO/OWC would even grudgingly accept the inevitable as long as Gerry Adams never lives to see it. If unification happens after Adams is gone, they might accept it more easily as history rather than a defeat.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on August 26, 2025, 02:30:40 PMIs it a more accurate measure to gauge "Border poll" voting?
The "Northern Irish" will be the one to convince.


You have it there...That's the floating vote.

Look, it's all about people being comfortable in who they are and not forcing labels on them.