Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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Banks of the Bann

Quote from: DaleCooper on August 16, 2025, 10:22:18 PMSmart. Wouldn't fancy dying for literally nothing, wonder what the Yanks are gonna use to solve the demographic issue of so many missing Ukrainian men once its over. Economy not gonna run on hopes and dreams.

Ukrainians aren't dying for 'literally nothing'. They know exactly what they are fighting for. Their struggle against Russia is centuries old.

As for those who don't want to fight, I can't say I blame them, we only have one life.

p.s. I hope your concerns for the US economy don't keep you up at night, distressing as they must be.

An Watcher

Obvious that Ukraine means more to thr yanks than Palestine.  For this reason I honestly couldn't give 2 shits what happens to Ukraine. 
Help out Palestine first and I'll reconsider

DaleCooper

The Ukrainian economy as implied by the missing Ukrainian men.

400,000 Ukrainians killed or wounded acc to NYT, 1 million Ruskies.

Banks of the Bann

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Quote from: DaleCooper on August 16, 2025, 11:02:51 PMThe Ukrainian economy as implied by the missing Ukrainian men.

400,000 Ukrainians killed or wounded acc to NYT, 1 million Ruskies.


I assumed the 'missing' Ukrainian men you were referring to were those abroad, as that was the subject at hand.

What makes you think it's the yanks problem to solve Ukraine's demographic issue when this war is over? Trump is currently in the business of enabling Russia to force 5 million or so Ukrainians to become Russian, you think they give a shit Ukraine's demographics?

p.s. that land Trump is trying to give away...people live there and that is one of the things Ukrainians are fighting and dying for. Not 'literally nothing'.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: An Watcher on August 16, 2025, 11:00:39 PMObvious that Ukraine means more to thr yanks than Palestine.  For this reason I honestly couldn't give 2 shits what happens to Ukraine. 
Help out Palestine first and I'll reconsider

Possibly the most moronic post I've seen on GAABoard and that's includes Skull's mad ramblings.

Russia is murdering Ukrainian civilians, including little children but you don't give two shits... because you apparently care so much about little children being murdered in Palestine, or so you would have us believe.

You're either against murder or you're not. You don't give a f**k about dead children in Palestine or Ukraine or anywhere else for that matter. You just hate the US.

Maybe you'll delete that in the morning when you sober up. Maybe not.

Banks of the Bann

Big series of meetings today in the US.

Can Zelenskyy and the European leaders turn Trump away from his current course of forcing Ukraine to surrender to Russia? Trump has framed surrender as Ukraine being able to have 'peace immediately'.

Trump has also again ruled out NATO for Ukraine in favour of some non-specific 'robust' NATO-style security guarantees (whatever the f**k that means) Most likely useless like all the guarantees, commitments, promises and assurances Ukraine received in the past.

There are also some reports that Russia has, laughably, mooted 'enshrining into law' a promise not to invade Ukraine again or any other European country.

It's good that Zelenskyy has back up this time, meaning Trump and that wee rat Vance will find it a lot harder to ambush him like they did previously.


Dag Dog

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on August 16, 2025, 11:34:24 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 16, 2025, 11:00:39 PMObvious that Ukraine means more to thr yanks than Palestine.  For this reason I honestly couldn't give 2 shits what happens to Ukraine. 
Help out Palestine first and I'll reconsider

Possibly the most moronic post I've seen on GAABoard and that's includes Skull's mad ramblings.

Russia is murdering Ukrainian civilians, including little children but you don't give two shits... because you apparently care so much about little children being murdered in Palestine, or so you would have us believe.

You're either against murder or you're not. You don't give a f**k about dead children in Palestine or Ukraine or anywhere else for that matter. You just hate the US.

Maybe you'll delete that in the morning when you sober up. Maybe not.

Yes, a lot of sneaking regard for Putin because he's a thorn in the side of 'The West'.

Wildweasel74

Dale you don't sound like you cut it in the war of independence in Ireland, was that all for nothing?

DaleCooper

Too young for that and the more recent one in the North. Presume you did your duty?

Main Street



Darth Putin @DarthPutinKGB Aug 16

What I've got for 1 million casualties:
No new NATO members❌
NATO back to 91 line❌
No 🇺🇦  long range strike ability❌
🇺🇦 army to be small❌
🇺🇦allowed no aid when we attack again❌
Crimea is 🇷🇺❌
🇷🇺 gets security guarantees❌

I remain a master strategist

Main Street

Darth Putin @DarthPutinKGB
OTD in 1968 Soviet Russia invaded to save Czechoslovakia from the Prague Spring. Some of these tanks are in Ukraine today.

We said we were protecting them from Nazis. Imagine such a bullshit excuse today...


Main Street

Darth Putin@DarthPutinKGB
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 August 20

'OTD in 1991 Estonia proclaimed re-independence.

Russia is the leading provider of European independence days.

What actually happened was the Estonian Supreme Soviet (CIA front) in agreement with the Congress of Estonia (another CIA front) declared Soviet occupation illegal & proclaimed restoration of Estonian independence.

They did this cos Soviet troops had originally come to Estonia as a result of absolutely nothing to do with the secret clause of the Molotov Ribbentrop pact in 1939'



Actually the Molotov Ribbentrop pact in which USSR and Germany as allies started WW2, is the only treaty the Kremlin have ever honored and they did so dutifully

Bord na Mona man

Putin is negotiating with Trump to be gifted territory his armies haven't manage to capture yet, after 3.5 years.
If Trump was President during the Good Friday Agreement peace talks, Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan would have been handed back to Britain.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 20, 2025, 03:26:07 PMPutin is negotiating with Trump to be gifted territory his armies haven't manage to capture yet, after 3.5 years.
If Trump was President during the Good Friday Agreement peace talks, Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan would have been handed back to Britain.


He wants it because he can't conquer it. It's also Ukraines most fortified defensive line.

If Russia was gifted the rest of Donetsk it would leave the rest of Ukraine much more vulnerable and difficult to defend.

This is obviously Putin's plan. He is not interested in peace.

Ukraine won't be duped into giving it up for some wishy-washy security assurances. Who would trust Donald Trump or the European talking shop to back you up when the shit inevitably hits the fan again?

DaleCooper

Bundestag Vice President Omid Nouripour said on Tuesday on the TV programme "Frühstart" that Ursula von der Leyen was made to leave the room during Trump's meeting with European leaders in Washington. "In the middle of yesterday's meeting ... Ms. von der Leyen had to leave because the Americans said: 'We only want to talk to leaders.'"

According to Nouripour, the EU Commission President was kicked out of the room because the American politicians do not regard her as an elected head of a state.


EU getting reminders on the pecking order.