Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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Grace Murphy

See Carrickmore starting the Hyrox..... must have given up on the ONeill cup been that long since they seen one. 🤣

Here mucker they will Soon be the Cavan of Tyrone Club Football.

 ;D  ;D

GaaGPT

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

I am not saying a junior club player cant play county but i know a county player is going to move from a potential still a senor club to junior.

2ndstringsub

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2025, 04:50:51 PM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 30, 2025, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2025, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Not sure what the ouroborous remark means here to be honest. perhaps showing my own density. Do you think its not worth paying or something else?

Snake eating its own tail

GAA is allegedly a volunteer lead organisation.

GAA wants a good game thats marketable

Clubs pay money they take from local communities and volunteers to pay a professional coach.

Coach is expected to produce verified results, pressure to show results = underage trophies.

Unless they're doing a detailed skills audit every so often to demonstrate how individuals are progressing.

If the post for the job is to be believed they should be reviewing player progress as well as making job of volunteer coaches much easier also. I suppose reviewing player progress is one thing but demanding success is another.

Will certainly be a very tight line to try and walk.

I suppose some of our neighbours in Derry and in particular Slaughtneil might be able to tell us how its worked for them Chrissy McKaigue has been a full time games promotion officer there for a number of years.

giveherlong

Quote from: TheDergView on July 30, 2025, 09:23:28 PMHearing today Kieran McGeary has plans to move to Kileeshil to live next year. Strong chance he will transfer to them too is the word, from a Pomeroy man's mouth
Hopefully he gets to bring the sofa with him

2ndstringsub

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

giveherlong

Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Bogue- clogher and McGrath strabane both supposed to be on the senior development squad
That's two

Ballygawleyftw

Quote from: giveherlong on July 31, 2025, 08:36:45 AM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Bogue- clogher and McGrath strabane both supposed to be on the senior development squad
That's two

Ultan McKee Derrytresk another one with the potential

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: Ballygawleyftw on July 31, 2025, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on July 31, 2025, 08:36:45 AM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Bogue- clogher and McGrath strabane both supposed to be on the senior development squad
That's two

Ultan McKee Derrytresk another one with the potential

Ultan a great player, would start for any first division side, his brother diarmuid also. Both currently living in Dublin with good jobs. Travelling up and down for that shows passion they have in the hill. Diarmuid speech on socials very good.

Ultan was training with Ballyboden i think it was at the start of the year. Be a big loss nxt year,if he considers joining.
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

RedHand88

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney


Next time Tyrone play Castlederg, Malachy should give them a shout.

Mikhailov

Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:29:38 AM
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 30, 2025, 04:50:51 PM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 30, 2025, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on July 29, 2025, 06:42:40 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 29, 2025, 01:43:16 PMYouth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 29, 2025, 06:24:05 PMDerrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Not sure what the ouroborous remark means here to be honest. perhaps showing my own density. Do you think its not worth paying or something else?

Snake eating its own tail

GAA is allegedly a volunteer lead organisation.

GAA wants a good game thats marketable

Clubs pay money they take from local communities and volunteers to pay a professional coach.

Coach is expected to produce verified results, pressure to show results = underage trophies.

Unless they're doing a detailed skills audit every so often to demonstrate how individuals are progressing.

If the post for the job is to be believed they should be reviewing player progress as well as making job of volunteer coaches much easier also. I suppose reviewing player progress is one thing but demanding success is another.

Will certainly be a very tight line to try and walk.

I suppose some of our neighbours in Derry and in particular Slaughtneil might be able to tell us how its worked for them Chrissy McKaigue has been a full time games promotion officer there for a number of years.

Are you sure McKaigue is still in that role?
Surely not as he has a full time post in St Pats Maghera, also coaching Ardboe minors plus now with Derry seniors......can't see how Slaughtneil would pay a man a salary and let him do all of the other roles as well.
Think he done it a few years ago but not so sure now.

PastThePost

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 31, 2025, 10:56:02 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney


Next time Tyrone play Castlederg, Malachy should give them a shout.

Levels in football are dictated by time and space, basically those who can operate with less time and space are better equipped to perform at the highest level, in junior football you have considerably more time and space on the ball than you do in intermediate, and more again than in senior, whereas there are players who are capable of playing county football who are currently playing junior football, the truth is they are few and far between.
It definitely isn't an ideal preparation for county football, and it's not possible to say players who are playing well in junior football would perform at county level...as it's a completely different ball game.

tyrone08

Could you not have a player who is playing to a very high standard who is unfortunately from a poor club?

Ruling out an entire batch of players because their club is poor seems odd.

Grace Murphy

Just signed up to Carrickmore Hyrox for the doubles me and my hunky Tyrone Husband. Love a day out mucker.

Will they do another Hyrox after they are knocked out of champo early??? Would defo take part.

Easttyrone23

Quote from: TheDergView on July 30, 2025, 09:23:28 PMHearing today Kieran McGeary has plans to move to Kileeshil to live next year. Strong chance he will transfer to them too is the word, from a Pomeroy man's mouth

Yeah you couldn't expect the man to travel all the way to pomeroy from killeshil 🙄. Why would a former player of year travel 10 mins to pomeroy when he could play junior club football at his doorstep with killeeshil next year.

Easttyrone23

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: 2ndstringsub on July 31, 2025, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: GaaGPT on July 30, 2025, 10:58:47 PMCounty player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney


No disrespect to those players in junior football but if you take into account the multiple players that standout in senior club football that don't even get near the Tyrone squad then how would you expect those in junior level to?