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oakleaflad

Quote from: Mario on July 29, 2025, 03:32:07 PMThe only thing i remember Oisin McWilliams doing for the senior team is coming on as a sub and scoring a great point v Dublin in Celtic park in 2023. Has he done anything else to warrant being mentioned on here every month as an option for the future.
He played in a good few league games 2 or 3 years ago. Athletic and a good footballer, who had a score in him too. Hopefully he can get back playing football and see from there.

toby47

Quote from: Mario on July 29, 2025, 03:32:07 PMThe only thing i remember Oisin McWilliams doing for the senior team is coming on as a sub and scoring a great point v Dublin in Celtic park in 2023. Has he done anything else to warrant being mentioned on here every month as an option for the future.

Agree with you Mario, fella's being mentioned here as if they are all stars when they've barely played county or aren't standing out in club games a lot of the time. Then you mention Jamie Brennan and Paddy McBrearty and fella's dismiss them.

Ryan O

Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2025, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 29, 2025, 03:32:07 PMThe only thing i remember Oisin McWilliams doing for the senior team is coming on as a sub and scoring a great point v Dublin in Celtic park in 2023. Has he done anything else to warrant being mentioned on here every month as an option for the future.

Agree with you Mario, fella's being mentioned here as if they are all stars when they've barely played county or aren't standing out in club games a lot of the time. Then you mention Jamie Brennan and Paddy McBrearty and fella's dismiss them.
Mc Brearty has been average at best since returning from a bad injury and probably only retains his place in the squad from a bit of Mc Guinness loyalty.
 
Has Jamie Brennan ever been a regular on Donegal team bar one really good season.
Don't buy into this narrative that Donegal squad is so much stronger than Derry we're particularly quick to play down our own men, alot of decent footballers in Donegal squad but as Kerry showed them there's more to it than super fit and systems.

LoughNeagh

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toby47

Quote from: Ryan O on July 30, 2025, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2025, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 29, 2025, 03:32:07 PMThe only thing i remember Oisin McWilliams doing for the senior team is coming on as a sub and scoring a great point v Dublin in Celtic park in 2023. Has he done anything else to warrant being mentioned on here every month as an option for the future.

Agree with you Mario, fella's being mentioned here as if they are all stars when they've barely played county or aren't standing out in club games a lot of the time. Then you mention Jamie Brennan and Paddy McBrearty and fella's dismiss them.
Mc Brearty has been average at best since returning from a bad injury and probably only retains his place in the squad from a bit of Mc Guinness loyalty.
 
Has Jamie Brennan ever been a regular on Donegal team bar one really good season.
Don't buy into this narrative that Donegal squad is so much stronger than Derry we're particularly quick to play down our own men, alot of decent footballers in Donegal squad but as Kerry showed them there's more to it than super fit and systems.

McBrearty scored 1-15 in this years Ulster Championship, the same as we scored in our ulster championship campaign. This included 0-7 vs us, 1-4 vs Down, 0-3 vs Armagh. I'm not saying he's the level of Clifford or Con, but if we had a cell like this up alongside Shane, we'd be a hell of a lot better off, he wouldn't be on our bench that's for sure.

Yeh Jamie Brennan didn't get much of a run this year, got a goal vs us last year in the cship from memory. Again, he'd be a solid option. Jamie Brennan would be on the Derry team I reckon. My point was we're lacking in a panel of players that are able to come in and make an impact. I'd rather have a player like him than talking about Callum Brown coming home when he's 30. I'd rather have certainties on the squad than 'hopefullies and what if's'

jb77

Lachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

NotedObserver

Quote from: toby47 on July 30, 2025, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on July 30, 2025, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 29, 2025, 05:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 29, 2025, 03:32:07 PMThe only thing i remember Oisin McWilliams doing for the senior team is coming on as a sub and scoring a great point v Dublin in Celtic park in 2023. Has he done anything else to warrant being mentioned on here every month as an option for the future.

Agree with you Mario, fella's being mentioned here as if they are all stars when they've barely played county or aren't standing out in club games a lot of the time. Then you mention Jamie Brennan and Paddy McBrearty and fella's dismiss them.
Mc Brearty has been average at best since returning from a bad injury and probably only retains his place in the squad from a bit of Mc Guinness loyalty.
 
Has Jamie Brennan ever been a regular on Donegal team bar one really good season.
Don't buy into this narrative that Donegal squad is so much stronger than Derry we're particularly quick to play down our own men, alot of decent footballers in Donegal squad but as Kerry showed them there's more to it than super fit and systems.

McBrearty scored 1-15 in this years Ulster Championship, the same as we scored in our ulster championship campaign. This included 0-7 vs us, 1-4 vs Down, 0-3 vs Armagh. I'm not saying he's the level of Clifford or Con, but if we had a cell like this up alongside Shane, we'd be a hell of a lot better off, he wouldn't be on our bench that's for sure.

Yeh Jamie Brennan didn't get much of a run this year, got a goal vs us last year in the cship from memory. Again, he'd be a solid option. Jamie Brennan would be on the Derry team I reckon. My point was we're lacking in a panel of players that are able to come in and make an impact. I'd rather have a player like him than talking about Callum Brown coming home when he's 30. I'd rather have certainties on the squad than 'hopefullies and what if's'

Seen Jamie Brennan playing in the league for Donegal when they put their sub team out v Tyrone. Thought he was v impressive and his quality stood out. He got v little game time afterwards

tbrick18

Quote from: jb77 on July 30, 2025, 10:50:46 PMLachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

Nial Loughlin also had very little football this year due to injury - he's a scoring option in there too and works his backside off.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: jb77 on July 30, 2025, 10:50:46 PMLachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

I actually think we have pretty decent forwards. McGuigan is top 5 in the country, maybe even top 3. Ethan Doherty was young player of the year couple of seasons ago. McFaul has it in his locker to be an All Star but just hasn't reached the level he can, Paul Cassidy blows hot and cold but when on it he is top drawer. Niall Loughlin offers so much off the ball and can chip in with points. Murray has potential to be a top top player.

Our problem is off the bench......

shawshank

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Quote from: jb77 on July 30, 2025, 10:50:46 PMLachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

You do realise that size and power matters at the top end of winning championships at county level. Kerry haven't a starting forward under 6ft. This is one of Tyrone's major problems, all there best scoring forwards are small by county standards.  Conal (I think thats his name) Higgins has all the attributes needed for county football, big, fast and has a football brain, injured most of the year but hopefully will get over that and continue to progress, Sargent another young player injured but has size and power.

GTP

O'Neills Senior Football Championship
Wednesday 13th August 2025
Lavey --- v --- Drumsurn
TBC
Saturday 16th August 2025
Swatragh --- v --- The Loup
1 00 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
Steelstown Brian Og's --- v --- Faughanvale
2 45 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
Slaughtneil --- v --- Kilrea
5 30 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
O'Donovan Rossa GAC --- v --- Ballinascreen
7 15 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
Sunday 17th August 2025
Banagher --- v --- Glen
1 00 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
Ballinderry --- v --- Bellaghy
2 45 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)
Sean O'Leary GAC Newbridge --- v --- Dungiven
4 30 PM at Owenbeg (Ref: TBC)

Brendan

Does literally every match have to be in owenbeg  :-\

Stickittotheman

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 31, 2025, 10:11:21 AM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on July 31, 2025, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: jb77 on July 30, 2025, 10:50:46 PMLachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

I actually think we have pretty decent forwards. McGuigan is top 5 in the country, maybe even top 3. Ethan Doherty was young player of the year couple of seasons ago. McFaul has it in his locker to be an All Star but just hasn't reached the level he can, Paul Cassidy blows hot and cold but when on it he is top drawer. Niall Loughlin offers so much off the ball and can chip in with points. Murray has potential to be a top top player.

Our problem is off the bench......

McGuigan is not top 5 in the country, jesus


He is in the top 5 forwards in the country, who is better? David Clifford, Con O'Callaghan, Riain O'Neil arguably, Damien Comer but he is perpetually injured. Who else is there? Sam Mulroy possibly but I dont see him at McGuigan's level. Shane Walsh but he isn't really a full forward either

imtommygunn

the reason why you've never broke through is because you don't have decent forwards. McGuigan is top class but in reality he is the only one. That being said I think Loughlin is massively under rated and Toner adds a lot work rate wise. Murray is never fit and with him being so young the question really is will he ever be. McFaul is not really a forward. Doherty is decent enough but not fantastic.

zapped

Quote from: shawshank on July 31, 2025, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: jb77 on July 30, 2025, 10:50:46 PMLachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

You do realise that size and power matters at the top end of winning championships at county level. Kerry haven't a starting forward under 6ft. This is one of Tyrone's major problems, all there best scoring forwards are small by county standards.  Conal (I think thats his name) Higgins has all the attributes needed for county football, big, fast and has a football brain, injured most of the year but hopefully will get over that and continue to progress, Sargent another young player injured but has size and power.
Not the answer. I doubt he'd start in a good Magherafelt team this summer never mind star for Derry in the next 3 years.