Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Stickittotheman]

Lachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

I actually think we have pretty decent forwards. McGuigan is top 5 in the country, maybe even top 3. Ethan Doherty was young player of the year couple of seasons ago. McFaul has it in his locker to be an All Star but just hasn't reached the level he can, Paul Cassidy blows hot and cold but when on it he is top drawer. Niall Loughlin offers so much off the ball and can chip in with points. Murray has potential to be a top top player.

Our problem is off the bench......

McGuigan is not top 5 in the country, jesus

He is in the top 5 forwards in the country, who is better? David Clifford, Con O'Callaghan, Riain O'Neil arguably, Damien Comer but he is perpetually injured. Who else is there? Sam Mulroy possibly but I dont see him at McGuigan's level. Shane Walsh but he isn't really a full forward either

[imtommygunn]

the reason why you've never broke through is because you don't have decent forwards. McGuigan is top class but in reality he is the only one. That being said I think Loughlin is massively under rated and Toner adds a lot work rate wise. Murray is never fit and with him being so young the question really is will he ever be. McFaul is not really a forward. Doherty is decent enough but not fantastic.

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Lachlan Murrays constant injury battles hardly helps, he shows what's he about with the power and kicking now and again like the Donegal game but rarely 100%

Maybe the likes of C Mcateer or Sean Kearney could help maybe not. Eamon young looks like a force in his limited time so far with newbridge seniors, only out of minors though. Championship will be the answer 

You do realise that size and power matters at the top end of winning championships at county level. Kerry haven't a starting forward under 6ft. This is one of Tyrone's major problems, all there best scoring forwards are small by county standards.  Conal (I think thats his name) Higgins has all the attributes needed for county football, big, fast and has a football brain, injured most of the year but hopefully will get over that and continue to progress, Sargent another young player injured but has size and power.

Not the answer. I doubt he'd start in a good Magherafelt team this summer never mind star for Derry in the next 3 years. 

[Wildweasel74]

P Clifford, D Geaney, and G O'Sullivan aren't 6ft.

[lenny]

the reason why you've never broke through is because you don't have decent forwards. McGuigan is top class but in reality he is the only one. That being said I think Loughlin is massively under rated and Toner adds a lot work rate wise. Murray is never fit and with him being so young the question really is will he ever be. McFaul is not really a forward. Doherty is decent enough but not fantastic.

What do you mean by break through? I think you really mean win the AI because 2 Ulster titles and a division 1 title in the last 4 seasons isn't too bad for a team that you say hasn't broken through. We have far better forwards than we're given credit for. Paul Cassidy has loads of talent and Ethan Doherty is in the top 5 or 6 half forwards in the country when he's fully fit.

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Can only 1 team a year break through???!! What does break through mean? I would have though challenging the All Ireland favourites in big games would be breaking through but we were doing that 3 years ago!

[Stickittotheman]

the reason why you've never broke through is because you don't have decent forwards. McGuigan is top class but in reality he is the only one. That being said I think Loughlin is massively under rated and Toner adds a lot work rate wise. Murray is never fit and with him being so young the question really is will he ever be. McFaul is not really a forward. Doherty is decent enough but not fantastic.

What do you mean by break through? I think you really mean win the AI because 2 Ulster titles and a division 1 title in the last 4 seasons isn't too bad for a team that you say hasn't broken through. We have far better forwards than we're given credit for. Paul Cassidy has loads of talent and Ethan Doherty is in the top 5 or 6 half forwards in the country when he's fully fit.

That is fair. 2 Ulster Titles. A League title and 2 AI semi-final appearances in the last 4 seasons. Pretty good going. Granted since Gallagher left things have regressed. Hopefully with Meenagh we can get back to the top table.

I do think we are missing that extra forward who can score 5-6 points a game. Murray has the potential if he stays fit.

[Mario]

Armagh don't have two forwards that can do that and they won an AI

[JoG2]

Armagh don't have two forwards that can do that and they won an AI

Don't think I ever seen a hot shot league table at the end of a season and 1 county has 2 or three players on it. Maybe it has happened with a left and right footed free taker.
Scores were spread as teams attacked in big numbers, rotated etc. Full backs regularly chipping in with goals and points for example

[Estimator]

Armagh don't have two forwards that can do that and they won an AI

Don't think I ever seen a hot shot league table at the end of a season and 1 county has 2 or three players on it. Maybe it has happened with a left and right footed free taker.
Scores were spread as teams attacked in big numbers, rotated etc. Full backs regularly chipping in with goals and points for example

The list of the top 10 scorers from play in the 2025 All-Ireland SFC includes:
2 from Kerry,
3 from Donegal and
2 from Galway.

[JoG2]

Armagh don't have two forwards that can do that and they won an AI

Don't think I ever seen a hot shot league table at the end of a season and 1 county has 2 or three players on it. Maybe it has happened with a left and right footed free taker.
Scores were spread as teams attacked in big numbers, rotated etc. Full backs regularly chipping in with goals and points for example

The list of the top 10 scorers from play in the 2025 All-Ireland SFC includes:
2 from Kerry,
3 from Donegal and
2 from Galway.

I rest my case 

[Mario]

Armagh don't have two forwards that can do that and they won an AI

Don't think I ever seen a hot shot league table at the end of a season and 1 county has 2 or three players on it. Maybe it has happened with a left and right footed free taker.
Scores were spread as teams attacked in big numbers, rotated etc. Full backs regularly chipping in with goals and points for example

The list of the top 10 scorers from play in the 2025 All-Ireland SFC includes:
2 from Kerry,
3 from Donegal and
2 from Galway.

I rest my case 

Kerry didn't play a D1 team for their first 6 games. Galway played New York. Donegal is impressive but they had more games than anyone. Clifford is always going to be up there but otherwise I don't read a lot into the top scorers as Dublin or Kerry players have it much easier in the provincials. In 2023 Shane McGuigan was top scorer in country and second top scorer from play, topped only by Basquel who scored 40 points v Wicklow or something.

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In the league do the bottom 2 get relegated or does 14th play 15th in a playoff and 16th automatically relegated?

[Brendan]

In the league do the bottom 2 get relegated or does 14th play 15th in a playoff and 16th automatically relegated?

15th play off against division 2 2nd place and 16th automatically.

Speaking of leagues why have Vale conceded their last game against Lavey?

[scallywag]

The nonsense that's talked on here is mad,give it a rest lads and stop talking you know what 💩