Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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Mikhailov

Quote from: barelegs on July 16, 2025, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: reddgnhand on July 16, 2025, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: snowy2hunt on July 16, 2025, 02:57:01 PMKennedy  wasn't there for Mayo Game in Omagh   and Tyrone got cleaned out in Midfield

They got cleaned out in other games when he was playing.

Which other games did they get cleaned out? Mayo was by a long, long distance Tyrone's worst performance of the year. I don't think it's a coincidence it was the only game Kennedy didn't play in. And bearing in mind he's been playing with a groin/ hernia injury all year I don't think he's been near his best.

Very often it's not about winning clean ball but taking away a team's first choice. Take the Dublin game - the talk in the build up was around O'Cofaigh Byrne. He was made a none factor due to Kennedy's influence.

Even at the weekend Kerry didn't exactly dominate the Tyrone kick out - in fact it was the opposite in the first half. They just made much better use of the ball they did get. And I think the issues there come back to getting forwards that can hold their own physically and take a man on.

I'm on record somewhere on this forum as talking up Conor O'Neill as one for the near future but at the minute he'd be on the other wing to Daly. His aerial ball winning as we saw in the U20 final wasn't his strength but his kickpassing is something we could be doing with more off.

Conor O'Neill arguably is the future of Tyrone football (among others) but he has done nothing yet of note to suggest he is a better option that either of our 2 midfielders at the minute

In the AI U20 semi final and final he got cleaned out in the air so not sure he is ready for senior level midfield yet. Could he play wing forward? Possibly yes...but give the lad a bit of time to adapt to the higher level of senior county. Is it not an easy step up....as others have had difficulty in recent years since our AI U20 win in 2022 to adapt to the difference

Regards the midfield pairing, they are our best option - we have tried Ben McDonnell, Joe Oguz, Liam Gray, Cormac Donnelly, Richie D....among others and it always reverts back to these 2 lads as the best option and I honestly don't see it changing in the immediate future

A bigger issue for me is a ball winning inside forward who can be relied upon to get possession no matter what way it is put in and let the Dazzler, Daragh, McElholm etc all feed off him.....but again, I am not too sure that player exists in the county

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: NotedObserver on July 15, 2025, 07:00:06 PMPlenty of positions up for grabs with the below maybe the closest to holding onto a place imo

1. Morgan
2. Devlin
3. Peter Teague
4. X
5. Mckernan
6. X
7. X
8. Kennedy
9. Conn
10. Daly
11. X
12. X
13. E Mcelholm
14.
15. D. Canavan

Think the under 21 side of Hampsey and mcgeary are coming towards an end. Seanie O'Donnell has came on well last few games with size/power needs to come on.
Several interesting players about the county in the middle sector but will be interesting do any perform in the club championship.

Roarty has made a great impact for Donegal. Could Joey Clarke or others come on to provide anything? Tho he is surrounded Mccole and mogan in the fb line
Wouldn't want to be going into 2026 without Hampsey, McGeary, Brennan or Bradley anyway. Their returns and form was a big part of the reason for an improved season. Same goes for Mattie Donnelly, Peter Harte and Niall Morgan - we are still much stronger with them involved. There is no obvious club players worth looking at with exception of Paul Donaghy - would be a massive help if he would come back on board. Certainly no midfielders at club level that aren't already on the panel - would be good to see Cathal Donaghy get game time next year - he is probably the pick of the midfielders behind Conn and Kennedy.
That leaves you with your U20 call ups - Clarke, Hughes, Daly, O'Neill and McCullagh probably need a year or two on development panel doing S&C along with the players already on it.
Don't think you will see a big turnover in the starting team/squad in 2026 maybe more so the year or two after.

tiempo

Anything to be said for Morgan at CHF as an attacking playmaker/scoring threat?

God14

Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 04:25:00 PMAnything to be said for Morgan at CHF as an attacking playmaker/scoring threat?

Are you off your rocker?

Truthsayer

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Quote from: God14 on July 18, 2025, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 04:25:00 PMAnything to be said for Morgan at CHF as an attacking playmaker/scoring threat?

Are you off your rocker?
:D  :D  one of those week's. I heard a man the other day think he was so enlightened suggesting Michael Murphy should be brought into the back line to mark David Clifford   :-*

HokeyPokey

I don't get the criticism of the MF. Yes, they aren't putting up significant scores, but that's not what MFers generally are needed for. McGinley and Cavanagh were great for scoring, but you wouldn't be able to survive with them at MF or a Collie Holmes or Hughes with the new rules.

Kennedy, by virtue of being so tall, is one of the best fielders in the country, maybe we need more height to supplement them and maybe Conn could bulk up, but there's no obvious alternatives, unless we're going retread the paths of McNulty or McGleenan.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 04:25:00 PMAnything to be said for Morgan at CHF as an attacking playmaker/scoring threat?

Morgan as I said in the past was lined out at CHF for friendly games post league campaign. From reports it was said that O'Kane picked up a slight injury during that break and caused Morgan to back into nets, so definitely don't rule it out next year. Morgan will also have a decision to make come November time as im sure we have all heard that a potential NFL contract is on the line. Hence the flummoxed face when asked if he is going to be available for Tyrone next year.
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

Sean Og Patriots

Tyrone support shocking. First people to write on this board are ones who dont travel to the games. Big Kennedy & Conn have got us over the line plenty of times and very quick to be forgotten it seems. Morgan out the field next year Okane in nets. Bomb it up let morgan go inside for breathers.
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

Snapchap

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 21, 2025, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 18, 2025, 11:48:14 PMI don't get the criticism of the MF. Yes, they aren't putting up significant scores, but that's not what MFers generally are needed for. McGinley and Cavanagh were great for scoring, but you wouldn't be able to survive with them at MF or a Collie Holmes or Hughes with the new rules.

Kennedy, by virtue of being so tall, is one of the best fielders in the country, maybe we need more height to supplement them and maybe Conn could bulk up, but there's no obvious alternatives, unless we're going retread the paths of McNulty or McGleenan.

McNulty????? Are we for real????????
Forget this carry on about Morgan outfield too, he won't even be here next year according to my source

Well there we have it. When an anonymous figure online quotes a rumour he heard from another anonymous figure, then I suppose it can only be true.

Truthsayer

Quote from: bringbackdregish on July 21, 2025, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on July 18, 2025, 11:48:14 PMI don't get the criticism of the MF. Yes, they aren't putting up significant scores, but that's not what MFers generally are needed for. McGinley and Cavanagh were great for scoring, but you wouldn't be able to survive with them at MF or a Collie Holmes or Hughes with the new rules.

Kennedy, by virtue of being so tall, is one of the best fielders in the country, maybe we need more height to supplement them and maybe Conn could bulk up, but there's no obvious alternatives, unless we're going retread the paths of McNulty or McGleenan.

McNulty????? Are we for real????????
Forget this carry on about Morgan outfield too, he won't even be here next year according to my source
Would that be your imaginary friend? Like the imaginary Dregish players on the Naomh Eoghan team...

cjx

All Tyrone need is surely 2 big men in the spine CHF, FF or CHB with bit better tactics and strategy from O'Rourke ( this isn't the 1970s but not friary rules please) some serious strength and conditioning for u25s especially and only 2 of Hampsey McCurry Harte and M Donelly to retire from county. Midfield is great near best in country.
What about a specific underage transition coach with 50 candidates to follow should concentrate on that surely?

cjx

Has Peter Donnelly any spare time?

Hard2Listen2

Quote from: cjx on July 21, 2025, 07:01:19 PMHas Peter Donnelly any spare time?

Ffs wise up. Pete's a great lad but way too old to play county football!
😉

cjx

Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on July 21, 2025, 08:37:11 PM
Quote from: cjx on July 21, 2025, 07:01:19 PMHas Peter Donnelly any spare time?

Ffs wise up. Pete's a great lad but way too old to play county football!
😉
Very true but wan great strength and conditioning coach ( for mind and body) an given how he minded nets for Fianna in emergancy situations could free Morgan to play CHF for a few minutes mebbe?

Jerome

Quote from: cjx on July 21, 2025, 06:58:06 PMAll Tyrone need is surely 2 big men in the spine CHF, FF or CHB with bit better tactics and strategy from O'Rourke ( this isn't the 1970s but not friary rules please) some serious strength and conditioning for u25s especially and only 2 of Hampsey McCurry Harte and M Donelly to retire from county. Midfield is great near best in country.
What about a specific underage transition coach with 50 candidates to follow should concentrate on that surely?

The biggest problem with Malachy is that his current tactics are to suit McGeary and Mattie Donnelly. Maybe they are the ones dictating it but the slow build up suits them because it means they can play on their own terms and not be caught leggy. They have been doing that for years now and people come away saying Mattie and McGeary played well today, yes of course because it was played on their terms, it didn't suit 75% of the rest of the team to play that way.

I thought the tactical magician that we were supposed to have appointed would have come up with a system to suit our very very talented players but alas.