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Brendan · July 16, 2025, 05:04:09 PM

A call to arms for volunteer match reporters for the Club Championships...interesting to see where this goes

Doire · July 16, 2025, 07:49:23 PM

Worded as though Tally left himself but who knows the politics of it all behind closed doors. Anyone else hear Tally will be joining Tyrone Management team? Could be rubbish all the same

rodney trotter · July 16, 2025, 08:19:21 PM

Did he not leave because the Derry co board wanted to shake up his backroom team? It was never reported that Tally was sacked.

shamrocker12 · July 16, 2025, 08:43:59 PM

I believe he was sacked lads, although not in as many words. Players would definitely been consulted and I believe the quality of backroom team may have been a factor. By his recent interviews he was definitely gearing up for another year though and he seemed to be referencing we would be stronger next year as we were only really getting going. So I believe the Co. Board have given him the chance to walk as opposed to relieving him of his duties the way mayo did with mcstay. Again im only speculating but there's no way they have made that decision without having the man lined up. Surely they haven't done it again this year after last year's debacle. Gallagher is a no go. Meenagh is the man. Im confident he will be there in either the manager role or coach behind a front man. Either way I'll be happy. He played key role in our recent success.b

Wildweasel74 · July 16, 2025, 08:48:58 PM

Don't know if Meenagh the man or not, he had a chance when we were stronger 2yrs ago and turned it down. What changed that mindset. Rather Tally stayed and brought in Gilligan and Meenagh with a view of Hoping Gilligan got enough experience be may been the nxt manager in 3/4yrs!

shamrocker12 · July 16, 2025, 09:23:58 PM

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 16, 2025, 08:48:58 PMDon't know if Meenagh the man or not, he had a chance when we were stronger 2yrs ago and turned it down. What changed that mindset. Rather Tally stayed and brought in Gilligan and Meenagh with a view of Hoping Gilligan got enough experience be may been the nxt manager in 3/4yrs!

I agree there about the situation 2 years ago. Not sure why he didnt take it. Some reports were because he didnt want the manager post at that stage. Also Peter hughes the S&c coach was leaving for New Zealand as well, and the whole saga surrounding Gallagher. I have a feeling he maybe was led to believe RG would be returning and he would continue return as coach. Maybe im wrong. He probably just opted to get away from the whole mess. Im basing my guess on the fact that there's strong rumours of his return and also the fact the Bookmakers stopped taking bets last week and he was 3/10 when market closed and also the fact that surely our board cant be as naieve this time around and get the appointment done in good time. There's no doubt he'd be a popular return to some sort of management ticket.

tbrick18 · July 16, 2025, 09:38:29 PM

I see Donaghy has left Armagh.

zapped · July 16, 2025, 10:43:31 PM

Quote from: shamrocker12 on July 16, 2025, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 16, 2025, 08:48:58 PMDon't know if Meenagh the man or not, he had a chance when we were stronger 2yrs ago and turned it down. What changed that mindset. Rather Tally stayed and brought in Gilligan and Meenagh with a view of Hoping Gilligan got enough experience be may been the nxt manager in 3/4yrs!

I agree there about the situation 2 years ago. Not sure why he didnt take it. Some reports were because he didnt want the manager post at that stage. Also Peter hughes the S&c coach was leaving for New Zealand as well, and the whole saga surrounding Gallagher. I have a feeling he maybe was led to believe RG would be returning and he would continue return as coach. Maybe im wrong. He probably just opted to get away from the whole mess. Im basing my guess on the fact that there's strong rumours of his return and also the fact the Bookmakers stopped taking bets last week and he was 3/10 when market closed and also the fact that surely our board cant be as naieve this time around and get the appointment done in good time. There's no doubt he'd be a popular return to some sort of management ticket.

The markets for GAA betting are so small that they automatically close if there is even an insignificant amount of money in any direction. They then have to be manually opened again.

I can't imagine there are too many betting on it one way or another, probably why they haven't reopened.

LoughNeagh · July 17, 2025, 12:53:18 AM

Quote from: Brendan on July 16, 2025, 05:04:09 PMA call to arms for volunteer match reporters for the Club Championships...interesting to see where this goes

I think they are def looking at criticism here, which is fine and good to see some action but it shows there is a lack of support team around the county PRO. Also, has Derry reached out to the actual club PRO's to support?

Wildweasel74 · July 17, 2025, 01:13:56 AM

Club pro used to put in their game reports to the Mid Ulster Osberver years ago, sorta all stopped when they ceased publication. Derry post was going well for yrs, but now u get 1 or 2 reports a game. It fell through the floor. Unlike the observer they done games inhouse reporting, and no club pros submitting match reports.

Ghost+Tommy · July 17, 2025, 06:52:27 PM

Heard on the grapevine from one off PTs ex backroom staff that its Philly Mc Mahon with a couple off his own trusted men,and a derry contigent off Mc Kaigue,D Mc Erlain and Lockhart in the backroom team

Doire · July 17, 2025, 07:37:10 PM

Whoever the next management team are, its a vital appointment. Maybe the single most important in recent times considering the recent highs followed by the lows of the past 18 months. We are at a bit of a crossraods I feel. With a depth of minor and U20 under age talent, only bettered perhaps by Tyrone in Ulster over the past 5 years we cant let this slip by. There are no outstanding teams (like dominant Dublin) and therefore an opportunity to come out of the pack. Realistically we can complete for Ulsters and SAM as much as the others IMO. I have heard Meenagh and McKaigue . Whoever it is I hope have a real passion and desire to see Derry football succeed and Not just another notch on their managerial journey!

Ryan O · July 17, 2025, 09:58:52 PM

Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 17, 2025, 06:52:27 PMHeard on the grapevine from one off PTs ex backroom staff that its Philly Mc Mahon with a couple off his own trusted men,and a derry contigent off Mc Kaigue,D Mc Erlain and Lockhart in the backroom team

Just like the last managerial contingent there are plenty of forward/ attacking football visionaries in that group of names. 😔

When you see the stats from the 4 in a row Kerry minor All- Ireland winning teams, they averaged 3 players breaking through into Senior Inter County football per year and out of that number only 6 in total being regular starters. This notion that because we had some underage success that we've a conveyor belt coming through is dream world stuff.

We (like Tyrone) played a ultra efficient brand of football that is now a thing of the past with the new rules. We have massive issues developing forwards and until Derry County Board start getting serious about hiring proven forwards coaches or at very least proven forwards this won't change.

NotedObserver · July 17, 2025, 10:00:25 PM

Quote from: Ryan O on July 17, 2025, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on July 17, 2025, 06:52:27 PMHeard on the grapevine from one off PTs ex backroom staff that its Philly Mc Mahon with a couple off his own trusted men,and a derry contigent off Mc Kaigue,D Mc Erlain and Lockhart in the backroom team
Just like the last managerial contingent there are plenty of forward/ attacking football visionaries in that group of names. 😔

When you see the stats from the 4 in a row Kerry minor All- Ireland winning teams, they averaged 3 players breaking through into Senior Inter County football per year and out of that number only 6 being regular starters. This notion that because we had some underage success that we've a conveyor belt coming through is dream world stuff.

We (like Tyrone) played a ultra efficient brand of football that is now a thing of the past with the new rules. We have massive issues developing forwards and until Derry County Board start getting serious about hiring proven forwards coaches or at very least proven forwards this won't change.

Well if Donegal beat Kerry well with just hand passing next week that brand of football is here to stay

Doire · July 17, 2025, 11:18:36 PM

Accepted that underage success / strong teams does not automatically guarantee anything at senior level but at the very least we should have a decent base to build from compared to the vast majority of counties. 3 minor all Irelands in 5 years, coupled with StPats Hogan Cup success. Hopefully a good crack at u20s this year. That is why this next appointment is crucial. The transition of these players from successful underage to senior is crucial. I agree, as Ryan O has pointed out, top quality forward coaches are very important. We are still short of cutting edge / clinical forwards overall in my opinion. I have liked the look of Éamon Young, Ger Dillon, Conal Higgins, Johnny McGuckin, Oisín Doherty on occassions - can any of these lads be developed...