Kneecap...

[Wildweasel74]

Can't wait to they lift all the men putting up UDA/UVF flags this summer!

[gallsman]

Can't wait to they lift all the men putting up UDA/UVF flags this summer!

Dunno why you'd expect the Met to do that to begin with tbh.

[JoG2]

Can't wait to they lift all the men putting up UDA/UVF flags this summer!

Dunno why you'd expect the Met to do that to begin with tbh.

[David McKeown]

My point stands:

1. Israel tries to equate any criticism of them as support of Hamas.
2. Kneecap shouting 'Up Hamas' gives Israel an open goal.

It's simple and irrefutable.

Mo Chara left himself open to this by what he shouted and will be used to build the case that he supports a proscribed organisation but make no bones about this the spotlight was shone on them after the Coachella thing in the US.

It looks like the defence are questioning whether the court have jurisdiction on this matter, anyone shed any light on that for us less well informed in the legal gymnastics at play? 

Yes although I think the reporting must be wrong. Either that or I can't read a calendar. The reporting suggesting the issue is one of the case being what's called statute barred.

This offence is what's known as a summary offence meaning it can only be heard in the Magistrates Court. It can not be heard in the Crown Court. Most summary offences (including this one) must be commenced within 6 months. Proceedings are commenced when a complaint is made to a lay magistrate not when a summons is issued. The complained of offence occurred in November. The proceedings don't seem to have been commenced until May. I can't remember the specific dates of either of those but a google suggests the CPS laid the complaint in time (just).

Is the English 6 months thing similar to this bit in Irish law that relates to time between offence and summons?
'Generally speaking, a summons must issue within 6 months of the offence if it is to be dealt with by summary disposal'
https://www.michaelstaines.ie/what-to-do-when-you-receive-a-summons

Yes it steams from pre partition. Been a bit of a divergence over the last century but not much.

[tonto1888]

Can't wait to they lift all the men putting up UDA/UVF flags this summer!

Dunno why you'd expect the Met to do that to begin with tbh.

Is this something only the met can lift you for then??

[Truthsayer]

Maybe not correct thread... on subject of 'Terrorism'... British government has today moved to designate 'Palestine Action' a terrorist organisation.. they're on a roll now.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Surely theres precedent to ignoring that particular law given the amount of loyalist flags you'll see over the next few weeks and have been seeing for years..

Yes, the UDA UVF LVF and so on proscribed organisations flegs, anyone putting them up will they get the same attention?

I doubt it very much and there will be no call out against it by even the nationalist or republican political parties..

BTW I've tried to listen to their music, still crap    

To bring a prosecution two tests must be met. The evidential test ie is there enough evidence to secure a conviction. If so then a public interest test is applied.

And if ever you wondered how the entire world could possibly be scripted and stage managed by the few who wanted to....David has wrapped it up in a few simple words here.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Maybe not correct thread... on subject of 'Terrorism'... British government has today moved to designate 'Palestine Action' a terrorist organisation.. they're on a roll now.

A legal egg was saying this would have seen the Suffragettes classed as terrorist and suppressed as such.

[Truthsayer]

Maybe not correct thread... on subject of 'Terrorism'... British government has today moved to designate 'Palestine Action' a terrorist organisation.. they're on a roll now.

A legal egg was saying this would have seen the Suffragettes classed as terrorist and suppressed as such.

Political policing ordered by government is sinister. The Labour government has been more terrorist supporting genocide than a locka activists throwing paint on a plane.   

[toby47]

Was on politics live on the BBC yesterday - Tory man going mental.

It's all about distraction.

It's  counter productive though , as  anyone who hadn't heard of Kneecap  before  , will have done so  now. Out of curiosity if nothing else.

And a lot of people will  now be aware of Kneecap 's views  on the  genocide in Gaza.  And other musicians rowing in behind them , should  amplify the message.

Sadly though , the slaughter will continue .

They have gone from 485k to 607k followers on instagram.

THE number of people listening to Kneecap has soared in the past week and the band have entered the charts for the first time in several countries.

Following ten days of hostile stories about the rappers, their popularity continues to grow across the world as they win over legions of new fans.

This week, Kneecap's album 'Fine Art' entered the iTunes chart in Italy, Brazil and Germany for the first time. Not only that but the band's monthly listeners on Spotify has also grown from 100,000 to 1.1 million.

I was reading an article this morning, they are now at 1.05million followers, more than doubled in a few months.

They announced a UK winter tour, have sold out Boucher along with The Fontaines next month, Headliner in Electric Picnic,  2 x sold out shows in 3Arena in December, in talks to headline AVA in Belfast next summer, rumours of Croke Park next year with The Wolfe Tones.

They are striking whilst the iron is hot anyway.

[gallsman]

Was on politics live on the BBC yesterday - Tory man going mental.

It's all about distraction.

It's  counter productive though , as  anyone who hadn't heard of Kneecap  before  , will have done so  now. Out of curiosity if nothing else.

And a lot of people will  now be aware of Kneecap 's views  on the  genocide in Gaza.  And other musicians rowing in behind them , should  amplify the message.

Sadly though , the slaughter will continue .

They have gone from 485k to 607k followers on instagram.

THE number of people listening to Kneecap has soared in the past week and the band have entered the charts for the first time in several countries.

Following ten days of hostile stories about the rappers, their popularity continues to grow across the world as they win over legions of new fans.

This week, Kneecap's album 'Fine Art' entered the iTunes chart in Italy, Brazil and Germany for the first time. Not only that but the band's monthly listeners on Spotify has also grown from 100,000 to 1.1 million.

I was reading an article this morning, they are now at 1.05million followers, more than doubled in a few months.

They announced a UK winter tour, have sold out Boucher along with The Fontaines next month, Headliner in Electric Picnic,  2 x sold out shows in 3Arena in December, in talks to headline AVA in Belfast next summer, rumours of Croke Park next year with The Wolfe Tones.

They are striking whilst the iron is hot anyway.

Ok, I'm a fan and an looking forward to the Boucher Road gigs, but I'd love to know where these particular rumours come from 

[marty34]

Was on politics live on the BBC yesterday - Tory man going mental.

It's all about distraction.

It's  counter productive though , as  anyone who hadn't heard of Kneecap  before  , will have done so  now. Out of curiosity if nothing else.

And a lot of people will  now be aware of Kneecap 's views  on the  genocide in Gaza.  And other musicians rowing in behind them , should  amplify the message.

Sadly though , the slaughter will continue .

They have gone from 485k to 607k followers on instagram.

THE number of people listening to Kneecap has soared in the past week and the band have entered the charts for the first time in several countries.

Following ten days of hostile stories about the rappers, their popularity continues to grow across the world as they win over legions of new fans.

This week, Kneecap's album 'Fine Art' entered the iTunes chart in Italy, Brazil and Germany for the first time. Not only that but the band's monthly listeners on Spotify has also grown from 100,000 to 1.1 million.

I was reading an article this morning, they are now at 1.05million followers, more than doubled in a few months.

They announced a UK winter tour, have sold out Boucher along with The Fontaines next month, Headliner in Electric Picnic,  2 x sold out shows in 3Arena in December, in talks to headline AVA in Belfast next summer, rumours of Croke Park next year with The Wolfe Tones.

They are striking whilst the iron is hot anyway.

These lads are a joke.

How many times have they retired now?

[tiempo]

They have gone from 485k to 607k followers on instagram.

122k people the algorithm can now profile across the metaverse, in doing so you will be sent targeted marketing ads for things you might be interested to buy, and also removed from targeted ads for right-leaning individuals, like how left and right leaning users saw two completely different sets of spam during Brexit, ramping up division in one cohort and disarming another - very very difficult not to be a sheep in this day and age

[David McKeown]

My point stands:

1. Israel tries to equate any criticism of them as support of Hamas.
2. Kneecap shouting 'Up Hamas' gives Israel an open goal.

It's simple and irrefutable.

Mo Chara left himself open to this by what he shouted and will be used to build the case that he supports a proscribed organisation but make no bones about this the spotlight was shone on them after the Coachella thing in the US.

It looks like the defence are questioning whether the court have jurisdiction on this matter, anyone shed any light on that for us less well informed in the legal gymnastics at play? 

Yes although I think the reporting must be wrong. Either that or I can't read a calendar. The reporting suggesting the issue is one of the case being what's called statute barred.

This offence is what's known as a summary offence meaning it can only be heard in the Magistrates Court. It can not be heard in the Crown Court. Most summary offences (including this one) must be commenced within 6 months. Proceedings are commenced when a complaint is made to a lay magistrate not when a summons is issued. The complained of offence occurred in November. The proceedings don't seem to have been commenced until May. I can't remember the specific dates of either of those but a google suggests the CPS laid the complaint in time (just).

Is the English 6 months thing similar to this bit in Irish law that relates to time between offence and summons?
'Generally speaking, a summons must issue within 6 months of the offence if it is to be dealt with by summary disposal'
https://www.michaelstaines.ie/what-to-do-when-you-receive-a-summons

Yes it steams from pre partition. Been a bit of a divergence over the last century but not much.

I understand that the dates may have been reported incorrectly in the press and the charges are likely statute barred