Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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Moonshine

Quote from: trileacman on June 27, 2025, 12:35:54 PMI don't mean this as a dig at the lad, he's a very successful footballer, but is Ben McDonnell really the 3rd best MF in Tyrone? He's the only MF named among the subs. There's a fairly steep drop off in quality among those subs, Harte and McElholm aside. I suppose Dublins subs are as bad if not in fact a bit weaker than ours.

There's a fair few lads who have been great footballers and an a few who could become great footballers but the bench doesn't stand out in the way Galway's or Armagh's do.

Galway have a bench of comer, Culhane, Molloy and Cooke. Armagh can call on Mackin, mc Kay, mc cabe, Duffy, Hughes, Callum O'Neill and hall. It's a fairly incredible bench.

To be fair he was the only midfielder today. Conn Kilpatrick how he lasted 70mins I will never know

barelegs

Quote from: TheModernGame on June 29, 2025, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on June 28, 2025, 11:27:55 PMWorst tyrone performance I've seen in a long time but I'll take it.  Can't be as bad the next day
I'm assuming you've been stuck on a desert ireland from 2022, with no access to the Internet or human society until today.

Did you stop following Tyrone after they won the All Ireland in 2021?
Asking for a mate.

I was going to say. I can think if about 10 in the last 3 years that were much, much, much worse than today. Mayo, Roscommon 2024 and Clare 2024 without going near the league.

Conditions weren't conducive to flowing football but the lads ground a win out. There's plenty to work on and much more in the tank.

Great to see Ciaran Daly who's had a lot of unfair stick on here have a big game. He gets through a mountain of work especially defensively that gets overlooked. Peter Teague had a very solid game as well hopefully his knock was no more than that. For all the talk of O'Cofaigh Byrne he hardly touched leather today.

We can watch on tomorrow and see what the draw throws up. We're in a good place

trileacman

Quote from: Moonshine on June 28, 2025, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 27, 2025, 12:35:54 PMI don't mean this as a dig at the lad, he's a very successful footballer, but is Ben McDonnell really the 3rd best MF in Tyrone? He's the only MF named among the subs. There's a fairly steep drop off in quality among those subs, Harte and McElholm aside. I suppose Dublins subs are as bad if not in fact a bit weaker than ours.

There's a fair few lads who have been great footballers and an a few who could become great footballers but the bench doesn't stand out in the way Galway's or Armagh's do.

Galway have a bench of comer, Culhane, Molloy and Cooke. Armagh can call on Mackin, mc Kay, mc cabe, Duffy, Hughes, Callum O'Neill and hall. It's a fairly incredible bench.

To be fair he was the only midfielder today. Conn Kilpatrick how he lasted 70mins I will never know

Give the man his due Ben was fairly good today, well worthy of his introduction. Conn probably got 70 because Ben had come on for Brennan and so we'd no MF sub left to make. The remaining subs were all fairly small men.

Teague and Brennan have been huge additions to this years team. They add a huge solidity to the backs. It may not have been apparent on tv but Seany and Daly were very tenacious in defence and played a huge part in the turnovers we got in the 2nd half. Both were key in the victory.

Inside forwards still a big concern, Canavan's poor showings continue and McCurry had his first bad day of the season. We were lucky that our defence was much, much better than Dublin's attack. McElholm was brilliant when introduced but is he possibly too young/light to start against Donegal, Armagh or Galway? I doubt he would be.

An enjoyable win albeit a poor enough performance for long periods.
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tyroneStatto

Quote from: An Watcher on June 28, 2025, 11:27:55 PMWorst tyrone performance I've seen in a long time but I'll take it.  Can't be as bad the next day

Worse than Mayo game which was only a few games ago?

NotedObserver

Quote from: trileacman on June 29, 2025, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: Moonshine on June 28, 2025, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 27, 2025, 12:35:54 PMI don't mean this as a dig at the lad, he's a very successful footballer, but is Ben McDonnell really the 3rd best MF in Tyrone? He's the only MF named among the subs. There's a fairly steep drop off in quality among those subs, Harte and McElholm aside. I suppose Dublins subs are as bad if not in fact a bit weaker than ours.

There's a fair few lads who have been great footballers and an a few who could become great footballers but the bench doesn't stand out in the way Galway's or Armagh's do.

Galway have a bench of comer, Culhane, Molloy and Cooke. Armagh can call on Mackin, mc Kay, mc cabe, Duffy, Hughes, Callum O'Neill and hall. It's a fairly incredible bench.

To be fair he was the only midfielder today. Conn Kilpatrick how he lasted 70mins I will never know

Give the man his due Ben was fairly good today, well worthy of his introduction. Conn probably got 70 because Ben had come on for Brennan and so we'd no MF sub left to make. The remaining subs were all fairly small men.

Teague and Brennan have been huge additions to this years team. They add a huge solidity to the backs. It may not have been apparent on tv but Seany and Daly were very tenacious in defence and played a huge part in the turnovers we got in the 2nd half. Both were key in the victory.

Inside forwards still a big concern, Canavan's poor showings continue and McCurry had his first bad day of the season. We were lucky that our defence was much, much better than Dublin's attack. McElholm was brilliant when introduced but is he possibly too young/light to start against Donegal, Armagh or Galway? I doubt he would be.

An enjoyable win albeit a poor enough performance for long periods.

Attacking set up a bit off. Canavan got going when McCurry went off. Darragh carrying an injury. Work in progress

Scoring Zone

Brilliant result for a few reasons, rode their luck, a few dodgy ref calls that went our way, but in a semi with a sobering amount of work to do and without Mckernan. The blocks, doggedness and that edge was excellent, that win should bring the team on a huge amount - all-ireland is wide open

Easttyrone23

Quote from: An Watcher on June 28, 2025, 11:27:55 PMWorst tyrone performance I've seen in a long time but I'll take it.  Can't be as bad the next day

You mustn't have seen Tyrone play mayo a few weeks back.

NotedObserver

Great to get over the line twice this year in big games. McCurry just one of them days that nothing went right. Canavan got in better positions second half and finished with 3 points. Didnt suit early ball in the first half as dubs allowed us to the edge of the D unchallenged and allowed the 2 point kicking

Thought some players could have been swapped out sooner but can't complain about what the management did as the subs worked. Peter Teague a quality addition and should have been involved much more in recent years

Tyrone11234

Obviously delighted to be back in a semi final but were some on this board watching a different game? As poor a standard I've seen in a quarter final in a long time. We've got a mountain of work to do on our attacking structure to compete with Donegal or Armagh- our only idea at times was to have a pop at a 2 pointer.
On a positive note, Daly McElholm and O'Donnell stood up big time in the second half. Trust in the youth

Truthsayer

A win's a win! Beating the Dubs in the championship in Croke Park is huge. A brilliant day. I wouldn't get too hung up on performance. Donegal were taken apart in their first half by Monaghan... Dubs were poor yesterday had great win over Derry last round. It happens.
I'd fear no-one. Selection of Malachy O'Rourke vindicated. Was a great day out!

ClubScene13

Quote from: Tyrone11234 on June 29, 2025, 09:40:07 AMObviously delighted to be back in a semi final but were some on this board watching a different game? As poor a standard I've seen in a quarter final in a long time. We've got a mountain of work to do on our attacking structure to compete with Donegal or Armagh- our only idea at times was to have a pop at a 2 pointer.
On a positive note, Daly McElholm and O'Donnell stood up big time in the second half. Trust in the youth

I'd agree with you sir - will take a win over Kerry or Dublin in any form no matter how it comes but it was a very flat game of football until the last ten. Hopefully we can click into gear a bit better in two weeks time as I'd say it may be needed but a win's a win. Feel like we need to let the ball in earlier, we get a lot of compliment's on our full forward line but if the supply isn't coming early enough then we're struggling to get the best out of them.

tyrone08

Quote from: ClubScene13 on June 29, 2025, 10:34:12 AM
Quote from: Tyrone11234 on June 29, 2025, 09:40:07 AMObviously delighted to be back in a semi final but were some on this board watching a different game? As poor a standard I've seen in a quarter final in a long time. We've got a mountain of work to do on our attacking structure to compete with Donegal or Armagh- our only idea at times was to have a pop at a 2 pointer.
On a positive note, Daly McElholm and O'Donnell stood up big time in the second half. Trust in the youth

I'd agree with you sir - will take a win over Kerry or Dublin in any form no matter how it comes but it was a very flat game of football until the last ten. Hopefully we can click into gear a bit better in two weeks time as I'd say it may be needed but a win's a win. Feel like we need to let the ball in earlier, we get a lot of compliment's on our full forward line but if the supply isn't coming early enough then we're struggling to get the best out of them.

Agree with both posts. Said it earlier that tyrone slow game down much for their forward line. Still trying to work out what our system is. I had hoped thay Malachy would encourage some attacking flair given the talent available.

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2025, 09:50:33 AMA win's a win! Beating the Dubs in the championship in Croke Park is huge. A brilliant day. I wouldn't get too hung up on performance. Donegal were taken apart in their first half by Monaghan... Dubs were poor yesterday had great win over Derry last round. It happens.
I'd fear no-one. Selection of Malachy O'Rourke vindicated. Was a great day out!

Agree, it was an ugly game but it won't say that in the history books. Sure the 2015 All-Ireland Final the Dubs won 0-12 to 0-9 v Kerry was a horrible game but you do think they care. Not every game is going to be a spectacle.
The most important thing about yesterday was getting the Dublin monkey off our backs after some serious hammerings from them in the last 15 years.

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: clarshack on June 29, 2025, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2025, 09:50:33 AMA win's a win! Beating the Dubs in the championship in Croke Park is huge. A brilliant day. I wouldn't get too hung up on performance. Donegal were taken apart in their first half by Monaghan... Dubs were poor yesterday had great win over Derry last round. It happens.
I'd fear no-one. Selection of Malachy O'Rourke vindicated. Was a great day out!

Agree, it was an ugly game but it won't say that in the history books. Sure the 2015 All-Ireland Final the Dubs won 0-12 to 0-9 v Kerry was a horrible game but you do think they care. Not every game is going to be a spectacle.
The most important thing about yesterday was getting the Dublin monkey off our backs after some serious hammerings from them in the last 15 years.

Agreed! Winning in Ballybofey and now beating the Dubs in Croker are both signs of real progress.

Can't gloss over the performance entirely though. McCurry had his poorest game for a long time and while Darragh got better he's still a fair bit from his best form. Has to be a concern that we're not making the most of the huge talent available in the forwards. Also very frustrating to see players time and again carrying the ball into contact or feeding teammates who are about to be swallowed up. The decision making at times was pretty grim. Thank god for the cool head, composure, leadership and drive of Mattie Donnelly.

But we're in the last four and there is much more in the team. That's not a bad place to be at all.

cjx

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on June 29, 2025, 12:18:51 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 29, 2025, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 29, 2025, 09:50:33 AMA win's a win! Beating the Dubs in the championship in Croke Park is huge. A brilliant day. I wouldn't get too hung up on performance. Donegal were taken apart in their first half by Monaghan... Dubs were poor yesterday had great win over Derry last round. It happens.
I'd fear no-one. Selection of Malachy O'Rourke vindicated. Was a great day out!

Agree, it was an ugly game but it won't say that in the history books. Sure the 2015 All-Ireland Final the Dubs won 0-12 to 0-9 v Kerry was a horrible game but you do think they care. Not every game is going to be a spectacle.
The most important thing about yesterday was getting the Dublin monkey off our backs after some serious hammerings from them in the last 15 years.

Agreed! Winning in Ballybofey and now beating the Dubs in Croker are both signs of real progress.

Can't gloss over the performance entirely though. McCurry had his poorest game for a long time and while Darragh got better he's still a fair bit from his best form. Has to be a concern that we're not making the most of the huge talent available in the forwards. Also very frustrating to see players time and again carrying the ball into contact or feeding teammates who are about to be swallowed up. The decision making at times was pretty grim. Thank god for the cool head, composure, leadership and drive of Mattie Donnelly.

But we're in the last four and there is much more in the team. That's not a bad place to be at all.

Agree will all above but slippy pitch/ball odd day, but ground it  out. Great experience to lock in. Ruari came on angry scored two, McElholm great, left Kilkenny bemused in his slipstream, as he scored. Real kickout strategy starting to emerge. Nervy stuff about Croker and Dub history dealt with in ropey performance but that is that ghost laid.

Vast learning vast potiential. Beat Donegal before should have beaten Armagh.

Likely Semifinalists Armagh Galway (Comer will never be back in time for semi?) With Tyrone and Donegal (Jimmy did great job straightening them out at HT, Monaghan confidence got by 40th min). Hope we get Galway and Armagh Donegal cancel each other out.

Bravery of Teague immense. That has spread to rest l hope. And best 2 point show ever. McKernan may well make semi? He is worth 6 points more a game between defense and attack.

Out of confusion victory beckons!! More worried about Donegal than anyone but still know how to beat them.