Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 27, 2025, 01:22:09 PMThe €24m for Dundalk is phase 1, 6,000 seats.

Where does it say that?
https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2025/04/30/louth-gaa-gets-green-light-for-new-stadium/

Likewise, most reports of the Pairc Tailteann redevelopment project are in or around €25m.
Of course, Casement is more than these, but 6 times should be sufficient for a decent job, I would have thought.
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: armaghniac on June 27, 2025, 01:28:22 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 27, 2025, 01:22:09 PMThe €24m for Dundalk is phase 1, 6,000 seats.

Where does it say that?
https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2025/04/30/louth-gaa-gets-green-light-for-new-stadium/

Likewise, most reports of the Pairc Tailteann redevelopment project are in or around €25m.
Of course, Casement is more than these, but 6 times should be sufficient for a decent job, I would have thought.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0429/1510015-louth-secure-funding-for-new-stadium-development/#:~:text=Louth%20GAA's%20share%20of%20the,capacity%20stadium%20pending%20a%20reassessment.

RTÉ Sport understands that the first phase will cost up to €24m.

I think the spec for Casement is well beyond Meath and Louth. There will be terracing, and Casement plans corporate boxes and whatnot

armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 27, 2025, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 27, 2025, 01:28:22 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on June 27, 2025, 01:22:09 PMThe €24m for Dundalk is phase 1, 6,000 seats.

Where does it say that?
https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2025/04/30/louth-gaa-gets-green-light-for-new-stadium/

Likewise, most reports of the Pairc Tailteann redevelopment project are in or around €25m.
Of course, Casement is more than these, but 6 times should be sufficient for a decent job, I would have thought.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2025/0429/1510015-louth-secure-funding-for-new-stadium-development/#:~:text=Louth%20GAA's%20share%20of%20the,capacity%20stadium%20pending%20a%20reassessment.

RTÉ Sport understands that the first phase will cost up to €24m.

I think the spec for Casement is well beyond Meath and Louth. There will be terracing, and Casement plans corporate boxes and whatnot


RTÉ have not been consistent on this point. And yes, Casement is beyond Louth or Meath, but it has 6 times the money.
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Rossfan

€24m for 6,000 plus all ancillaries.
A 30,000 higher grade in Belfast should be €120m plus ?%...€180m at most.
Around £155m.
Get feckin BUILDING!
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armaghniac

Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2025, 05:02:47 PM€24m for 6,000 plus all ancillaries.

I have posted several links which imply €24m for the whole project. Anyone from Louth here? They have a stadium website that does not work
https://stadium.louthgaa.ie/
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Rossfan

From Louth GAA

Phase One development will include:

– South seated stand (4080 seats)
– Full-size playing pitch built to the highest standards
– Modern floodlighting system
– East and West standing sections behind both goals
– Car parking
– Auxiliary building for essential facilities

Development of Phase Two will commence as funding allows, featuring the North standing terrace, which will further enhance the stadium's capacity and facilities.

And from RTÉ site

RTÉ Sport understands that the first phase will cost up to €24m.

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

armaghniac

Quote from: Rossfan on June 27, 2025, 06:44:50 PMRTÉ Sport understands that the first phase will cost up to €24m.

So why do you believe one line on the RTÉ site more than the other ones?
Or this RTÉ link https://www.rte.ie/video/id/25853/

Kildare redevelopment was €17.5m, Louth and Navan are bigger but €25m is not that far away.
https://www.kildare-nationalist.ie/news/cedral-st-conleths-to-be-debt-free-within-two-years_arid-37466.html
Casement will have a budget 8 times the cost of Newbridge.
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snoopdog

If 6k seats cost 24 million then someone is taking a serious wedge out of Louth GAA.
Rte are muppets maybe they're costing it on their terms.

Rossfan

It's developing the pitch, and grounds, dressing rooms, floodlights, ancillaries etc.

€24 for 6k is good value compared to "£180m isn't enough"
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marty34

Quote from: snoopdog on July 01, 2025, 07:54:35 AMIf 6k seats cost 24 million then someone is taking a serious wedge out of Louth GAA.
Rte are muppets maybe they're costing it on their terms.

I'd say they're doing a lot more than a 6k stand.

Probably everything but it'll be a case of having the other 2/3 sides shovel ready so when they get more funding, it'll be ready to build from Day 1. 

illdecide

Guys you are losing the run of yourselves on the costs...just because 6k seats cost 24 million then the Casement project should be 5 or 6 times that. It doesn't work like that. The higher up you go the more construction costs are, if you don't know about Construction costs then prob best not to comment on it.
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SaffronSports

The issue is if they go and try to get a different plan in place with what they have, that's months maybe even years down the line and the costs probably away up again.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: SaffronSports on July 01, 2025, 02:37:28 PMThe issue is if they go and try to get a different plan in place with what they have, that's months maybe even years down the line and the costs probably away up again.
That's true. And waiting on someone shaking the money tree in their direction has been a fairly speedy process.

johnnycool

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 01, 2025, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on July 01, 2025, 02:37:28 PMThe issue is if they go and try to get a different plan in place with what they have, that's months maybe even years down the line and the costs probably away up again.
That's true. And waiting on someone shaking the money tree in their direction has been a fairly speedy process.

The original offer of £54M was made back in 2011 I believe so I think the GAA are looking Stormont to include compound interest accrued in that timeframe, so that might take that original figure northwards to £70M.

I can't see that washing with Mr Lyons TBH...

There'd still be a big gap, but both the GAA and the Irish Gov are waiting on Stormont coughing up more.