Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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trileacman

Quote from: reddgnhand on June 01, 2025, 12:40:11 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 12:06:29 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on May 31, 2025, 10:04:17 PMCan someone explain that performance to me please and thank you.

A shocking performance compounded by shocking management. Was at the game and much of the analysis is all wrong. Defence actually done very well given that the forwards were holding onto nothing and midfield was getting overrun. Ciaran Daly was actually excellent today, certainly stopped a point or two and a certain goal in the 50 min.

O'Rourke and Porters coaching of kick-outs are shambolic, it cost us big time against Armagh and once again today. We play zonal marking on Mayos kick outs and on our own guys just run around and then Morgan boots it long to an area where no Tyrone players are because they've all run short.

It was clear after 30 mins that canavan, mc curry and Bradley playing on top of each other wasn't working. MOR left them all on for 50mins and his only solution was to play Matty at FF and Bradley at wing forward. That's 2 players playing out of position with zero impact on the game. Tyrone actually bucked up and dragged themselves back to within a point in the 2nd half (mostly because Bradley was out of the way and Canavan and McCurry had room to play).

MOR then made 3 shocking subs to ruin Tyrone again. Ruari, Donaghey and O'Hare were all shocking when introduced. Again Ruairi played out of position at wing forward led to a penalty and free conceded and O'Hare gave away 3 really stupid frees and lost an easy kick out.

We've a big problem coming out of defence with nobody who can comfortably kick the ball forward. McKernan is having a stellar season but he's not comfortable kick passing. Neither can Daly, Con, McGeary, Donaghy or Seanie. MOR really needs to include some variety in the team and not rely solely on just a running game.

The lack of MF depth behind Con and Kennedy is a big problem too but I'd blame MOR for the complete failure to construct any kind of kickout plan or kick out press. McShane should have been made an option at MF, don't know why management froze him out. I had some sympathy for MOR at the start of season but he doesn't seem to learn any lessons from week to week, we see the same problems occur time and time again. There's only so many excuses you can make for him.

C Daly excellent? Are you for real? What did he score? Did he win any ball around the middle? Taken off again?

He shouldn't have been taken off, we had in back to within a point when he was subbed, game was lost from there.

He was instrumental in defence with a number of key turnovers and carried the ball out of defence several times when no-one else wanted to. He's not and never will be a free scoring wing forward, it's not his game. We started Sparky, Dara and McCurry for scores in this game and in 35 mins they contributed 1 point from play and I think they lost possession about 6 times in that 1st half.

You could point the finger of blame at lots of players yesterday, including another Trillick player, but Daly wasn't one of them.
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Quote from: marty34 on June 01, 2025, 12:49:13 PMPeople are fickle.

One week Tyrone will be challenging for All-Ireland, next week, they're also rans.
Exactly that.. was boys like Trillick man just waiting the opportunity to get the boot into Malachy.. or if not that, girn bout the new rules 🤣😂

ClubScene13

Thought Daly better than normal last night but wouldn't be sticking the boot into lads like Shea O'Hare who've had limited chances, would ye say Ciaran has been lighting it up for the county? Yet has the 12 jersey on his back every day? His counterpart Aodhan donaghy while young, does not look like he can offer anything in terms of attacking play at this level. Where's my nearest hand pass essentially.

As for McShane, a don't want to see that name mentioned on here again, cheers men.

tyroneStatto

15 mins in and just look at the bite Derry have playing at home against Connacht opposition. Tyrone players rarely have that playing at home in Omagh. Looking back at past games in Dungannon in the 90's/early noughties and I can't remember too many lethargic performances if any.

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Quote from: clarshack on June 01, 2025, 02:19:05 PM15 mins in and just look at the bite Derry have playing at home against Connacht opposition. Tyrone players rarely have that playing at home in Omagh. Looking back at past games in Dungannon in the 90's/early noughties and I can't remember too many lethargic performances if any.
True.. Omagh is soulless

trileacman

Derry showing how you press a kick-out by the innovative tactic of marking the outfield players.
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Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 02:35:29 PMDerry showing how you press a kick-out by the innovative tactic of marking the outfield players.
Need to get Tally in as guest trainer   :D

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trileacman

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 01, 2025, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 02:35:29 PMDerry showing how you press a kick-out by the innovative tactic of marking the outfield players.
Need to get Tally in as guest trainer   :D

Would you blow smoke up his arse too our just O'Rourkes?
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Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 03:18:48 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 01, 2025, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 02:35:29 PMDerry showing how you press a kick-out by the innovative tactic of marking the outfield players.
Need to get Tally in as guest trainer   :D

Would you blow smoke up his arse too our just O'Rourkes?
I wouldn't use Derry to slag off Tyrone. Scraping the barrel there kid... 8 points ahead at home and couldn't win 😆

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 03:10:36 PMDerry will fold

Ok they nearly blew it completely but look at the effort they put in today compared to us last night.

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Quote from: clarshack on June 01, 2025, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 03:10:36 PMDerry will fold

Ok they nearly blew it completely but look at the effort they put in today compared to us last night.
I'd be more confident of Tyrone qualifying than that outfit. #Derrylovein...

trileacman

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 01, 2025, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 01, 2025, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 03:10:36 PMDerry will fold

Ok they nearly blew it completely but look at the effort they put in today compared to us last night.
I'd be more confident of Tyrone qualifying than that outfit. #Derrylovein...

We're better than Derry and you think everything is rosy.
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Quote from: trileacman on June 01, 2025, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 01, 2025, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 01, 2025, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 03:10:36 PMDerry will fold

Ok they nearly blew it completely but look at the effort they put in today compared to us last night.
I'd be more confident of Tyrone qualifying than that outfit. #Derrylovein...

We're better than Derry and you think everything is rosy.
I think is a work in progress and after going into Ballybofey and beating the Ulster champions, last night was disappointing. Tyrone team and management knows they didn't perform. However there are those were just waiting to get stuck into the management.
Is the first poor performance since third round of the league. Last year shipped 6 goals to Dublin, made hard work of Clare and lost at home to Roscommon. One bad defeat doesn't define this season. I'm confident they'll beat Cavan. After that the keyboard warriors will be sharpening the knives again as is unlikely will win Sam.. this year.