Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[NotedObserver]

Would there still be a lack of height coming through? Joey Clarke, Daly, Mcelholm and Mccullagh stand out players but many of them in with a chance to break through

That's a real concern, everything in the garden is rosy, but especially with the new rules, you need plenty of big trees and I don't see too many coming through

Pity about McGleenans injuries
Hopefully Ruairi McHugh can kick on an in the next year or two

Conor O'Neill has been excellent all year and still underage next year. Can see him making an impact at 10 or 12 in the coming years but the point on a more general lack of height is well made. It'll be interesting to see if the rule changes bring any new players to the fore in club football over the next year.

Oneill the obvious one and 10 or 12 will suit him as got a work rate and can kick a score. Orouke giving donaghy Oguz and Daly runs in half forward line but they had poor outing v Armagh. Will be interesting how many start next day out or will they go with trying to win the breaking ball

[NotedObserver]

Anyone know the latest with mcglennon?

[Bring back club football]

McCglennon no use at all.

U20s a world away from senior but hard to argue with record of Dook.

A very smart man maintains to me the real reason for Tyrone's success at u20 level is the number of the lads playing senior club football.

So it is.

[Goals_Will_Come]

McCglennon no use at all.

U20s a world away from senior but hard to argue with record of Dook.

A very smart man maintains to me the real reason for Tyrone's success at u20 level is the number of the lads playing senior club football.

So it is.

Only five clubs represented outside of the Senior clubs - Eglish, Fintona, Beragh, Cookstown and Glenelly.
Only three Senior clubs not represented on the panel - Carrickmore, Pomeroy and Trillick.

[W.A.G. Lover]

Eglish played on Friday night so they cant be represented on the U-20 squad?

[reddgnhand]

Any idea were the final will be held? Newry if Louth?? Cavan if Mayo?

[Mikhailov]

Eglish played on Friday night so they cant be represented on the U-20 squad?

They have Conor Holmes on the squad and he came on against Derry or Donegal. But Eglish decided to play on anyway - fair play to them

[W.A.G. Lover]

Eglish played on Friday night so they cant be represented on the U-20 squad?

They have Conor Holmes on the squad and he came on against Derry or Donegal. But Eglish decided to play on anyway - fair play to them

Fair fucks to them. Probably have squad depth and enough strength for division 2. It would be unfair to maybe ask smaller clubs who are heavily reliant on their u20s. However, it should never have gotten to this. Something has to give for the sake of club football.

[GaelTheGael]

McCglennon no use at all.

U20s a world away from senior but hard to argue with record of Dook.

A very smart man maintains to me the real reason for Tyrone's success at u20 level is the number of the lads playing senior club football.

So it is.

Only five clubs represented outside of the Senior clubs - Eglish, Fintona, Beragh, Cookstown and Glenelly.
Only three Senior clubs not represented on the panel - Carrickmore, Pomeroy and Trillick.

Serious team if Charlie Donnelly and Nathan Farry from Trillick aren't on the panel.

[Onthe40]

good players but lack the pace for county level
both will have to bide their time before making the Trillick starting 15 even, don't see the Trillick starting personnel changing much from last year and then even missing one of the Garrity's
Devlin has stated many times he wants men playing club senior football

first time I watched the 20s on Sunday as was unable to see the Wed night games
tbh I don't see many making the step up bar the 2 quality fwds that we know off, they were the difference in the end..Kerry dominated alot of the game but couldn't turn possession into scores...

[Goals_Will_Come]

good players but lack the pace for county level
both will have to bide their time before making the Trillick starting 15 even, don't see the Trillick starting personnel changing much from last year and then even missing one of the Garrity's
Devlin has stated many times he wants men playing club senior football

first time I watched the 20s on Sunday as was unable to see the Wed night games
tbh I don't see many making the step up bar the 2 quality fwds that we know off, they were the difference in the end..Kerry dominated alot of the game but couldn't turn possession into scores...

Would we not also be seriously looking at Ben Hughes, Joey Clarke, Callum Daly, Caolan Donnelly and Conor O'Neill on top of McElholm and McCullagh. Maybe not as Senior starting players in 2025 or 2026 but a year or two on the development squad before breaking into the side. We have a Senior team there at the minute that has Hamspey, Meyler, Brennan, McGeary, Burns, Bradley, McCurry, Mattie and Peter Harte now all the wrong side of 30. They can't go on forever.

[tiempo]

good players but lack the pace for county level
both will have to bide their time before making the Trillick starting 15 even, don't see the Trillick starting personnel changing much from last year and then even missing one of the Garrity's
Devlin has stated many times he wants men playing club senior football

first time I watched the 20s on Sunday as was unable to see the Wed night games
tbh I don't see many making the step up bar the 2 quality fwds that we know off, they were the difference in the end..Kerry dominated alot of the game but couldn't turn possession into scores...

Would we not also be seriously looking at Ben Hughes, Joey Clarke, Callum Daly, Caolan Donnelly and Conor O'Neill on top of McElholm and McCullagh. Maybe not as Senior starting players in 2025 or 2026 but a year or two on the development squad before breaking into the side. We have a Senior team there at the minute that has Hamspey, Meyler, Brennan, McGeary, Burns, Bradley, McCurry, Mattie and Peter Harte now all the wrong side of 30. They can't go on forever.

Yes thats stating the obvious, but a lot more to it than names on paper, fingers crossed the rich pickings from the last 2-3 years dominance at Ulster Colleges can push through

[Mikhailov]

good players but lack the pace for county level
both will have to bide their time before making the Trillick starting 15 even, don't see the Trillick starting personnel changing much from last year and then even missing one of the Garrity's
Devlin has stated many times he wants men playing club senior football

first time I watched the 20s on Sunday as was unable to see the Wed night games
tbh I don't see many making the step up bar the 2 quality fwds that we know off, they were the difference in the end..Kerry dominated alot of the game but couldn't turn possession into scores...

Would we not also be seriously looking at Ben Hughes, Joey Clarke, Callum Daly, Caolan Donnelly and Conor O'Neill on top of McElholm and McCullagh. Maybe not as Senior starting players in 2025 or 2026 but a year or two on the development squad before breaking into the side. We have a Senior team there at the minute that has Hamspey, Meyler, Brennan, McGeary, Burns, Bradley, McCurry, Mattie and Peter Harte now all the wrong side of 30. They can't go on forever.

I don't think it is just as simple as that. Look at the 2022 winning team, 3 years later and really only 3 of them are considered 'possible' starters in Devlin, Daly and Canavan. A few others have been there but decided they needed to step away. Then look at the 2024 winning team. Shea O'Hare, Cassidy and Rafferty are struggling for even selection on match days and only McElholm is getting some minutes.
The step up is huge but the commitment is the bigger issue.
Can these lads go from certain starters at U20/colleges to become squad panel members but still put in a colossal commitment - that is always the question in my mind.
Lads at 19/20 have a bit of 'living' to do and sitting on the bench may not appeal, then as they mature around 22/23 they are maybe more prepared to put in the effort and give it a real go plus another big factor - they are more physically developed and ready for the training and games against seasoned players.
To go up against seasoned players with years of S&C and county training is not easy when you are coming straight from U20's.

[tiempo]

To go up against seasoned players with years of S&C and county training is not easy when you are coming straight from U20's.

100%

O'Hare made mince meat of U20s last year, he was well above the level, hopefully he can bulk up and be a star for the seniors, but a long way to go yet

[ClubScene13]

Agree with that Mikhailov, I think from the county minors changed to U17 the correlation is not really there to a good senior anymore as well. Stating the obvious when you're watching 16 year olds but the S&C levels you need to get to makes it extremely hard to get a good guage on who could make it through, you can see it even in the amount of minors who don't make Tyrone U20's in the following years.